eric tolder has to go. you know about the black -- he's in churches talking about the voter id, like the last lady. get your id. no matter what it takes. host: al is breaking up a little bit. he's saying there should be no excuse for getting voter id cards? we heard from elderly people who don't drive. we've heard from the disabled in various states say i don't have a driver's license because i don't drive. guest: like in texas, you can get a ride. you call in, you can get a ride. also you don't have to pay even what little deborah had to pay. if you show that you cannot afford to make those payments. it can be done and people are not being blocked. let me tell you, we keep hearing this partnership thing. it is bothersome that partisanship does have a role. what i like to see somebody on the other aisle do what i did. when it came out that the national security letters had been badly abused and been used as fishing competition, i called the president's chief of staff, said, this is indefensible. i like some