i'm rabbi eric weiss. we're in a wonderful conversation the chief program officer and the senior educator and don kepler who's at director of building jewish bridges.' welcome back. so let's continue our conversation. just ask you for some more examples about your educational offerings. >> so as dawn was pointing out one of the greatest characteristics of lair house is that it's a team. very small team that does a lot of work. and we're really inspired by both our founder frank rosenbaum and our long time actually executive director and now chief operating officer johan gris to look at the possibilities. what if. why not? can we try this. because we're not -- we don't receive instructions from above except from within. we actually can inspire each other to come up with ideas. so dawn had created this bridge with berkley rep and they were bringing row the amazing play by lisa looper to the birthday wrap from the oregon shakespeare festival and i had seen the play in oregon and i was so taken by it and then