i'm rabbi eric weiss. i am honored to be your host this morning. we are in the middle of a wonderful conversation about how they discovered their jewishness. jim, you were talking before the break, and marny was sharing how her own adulthood at a certain point when she discovered she was jewish influenced her sense of jewishness. and i'm wondering how yourself how that was for you. >> somewhat similarly. i came out when i was 20 as a gay man. and so my identity kind of arranged or rearranged itself. and this felt somewhat similar when my mother revealed this identity. it's like, oh, okay. so i completely changed and was completely the same. and i took myself to synagogue thinking, oh, well, maybe now i'll find the services much more meaningful, maybe now i will know the songs and i won't feel ooh like such an interloper. and of course none of that changed because i hadn't grown up as a jew. so i sort of liken it to an analogy of being transgender, a transgender person doesn't have the childhood of the gend