we will have eric williams, with the smithsonian institute african-american museum . i will be presenting to him the howard thurman road . i have had it all the time. there is only one person that is worn that and it is my co-minister, dr. benton. it has been there and it is a little fragile and i thought it might be an inspiration . i was contacted by them about a photo of dr. thurman and i said, what about his robe. and she said, yes. we will present the robe. and we have the robe of dr. alfred fisk. the cofounder of the church. we will be giving both photos of each one of them and the robe of dr. thurman and the robe of dr. fisk. >> it is wonderful. we have one minute. we cannot go without mentioning the 139 psalms. why did he love that so much? >> it is so intimate. searching me and knowing me. it is the walk, and he talks about the dark and light this. both the light and darkness are a light to me. he is dealing with the, for him. we all have dichotomies. that happens in life . we have dichotomies. he says, no. the darkness and light. the unity. >> you have to co