erica turner. what is your vision for educational equity in the state of wisconsin? >> thank you so much for asking me that question. >> we have two minutes. >> i collected the data for the book a long time ago. on the job and so forth but a lot of things were changing during that time in the way i thought of it then, among the things that were happening as the book was coming out, trump had been elected, we no longer had no child left behind but what was supposed to be a more flexible system, turned out not to change what people do in schools at all. so things like that were happening. there was also a lot more attention especially after covid, didn't start then, with organizing, people organizing against prison abolition, the movement for black lives and what those people have to do because they want a different system. they have to think differently about what that looks like. and think about what are you actually going for. there are some great ideas and some of those movements how things could look otherwise. for example, community care is a great idea which we

erica turner, and i want to ask you all to not upon tiff candidate. i know ang you have -- pontific. i know you have amazing opinions about what we're talking about, but we're going to stick to the question. i was given permission to kindly are interrupt you, and i will use that. [laughter] erica, what is your vision for educational equity? [no audio] more attention to, i , especially after covid. but it didn't start then with organizing people, organizing against prisons like prison abolition and the movement for black lives and what those people have to do because they really want a different system, especially prison abolitionists. they have to think really differently about what that looks like and think about. so what are you actually going? and so i think there's actually really great ideas in some of those movements about what it could, how things could look otherwise. so, you know, for example, when you think like i think community care actually, which we talked a little bit about before, is a great idea for rethinking what in part we're tryin

and to all of you that came to join us, amazing conversation and you to you, professor erica turner, writing this book. your courage. what this book and then being here with us. thank you, everyone. yeah.