erich: a combination of both. also declining renewable costs driven by subsidies like the wind tax credit and solar tax credit. there were some regulations from the obama administration that exacerbated economic problems that the coal industry was facing because of market pressure. i agree. what we have to remember about the coal industry, there are a lot of workers losing their jobs. government can help out. we have to make sure that is the coal industry and fossil fuel industry is phased out, because that is where we have to go to address climate change, those communities and workers have done a great service to this country, which is provide electricity. we cannot leave them behind. we have to help communities transition and the workers themselves into either retirement, but we have to be forward-looking in these policies. that can only be done with the federal government. they have cut and run out of these communities, trying to help health care for minors, retirement and health care and leaving these communit

host: erich, your response. erich: we have to fundamentally transform our energy sector and we have a couple decades to do it. it is not going to be as costly as nick says. he creates these studies to create scare and the political system. we are seeing that across the country. california is a great example. nick and i would both agree that california is one of the more heavily regular did states in the country. they are making the transition to renewable energy. they are making investments in battery storage. we are seeing that what is going on with the renewable energy in california is disrupting the -- you have companies like pacific gas & electric that are now becoming these big monolithic companies were come -- becoming uncompetitive in the market. is technologyee evolve. what nick is arguing is should have kept the telephone system and not have the innovation that happened in mobile development which was backed by government regulation and by investment. we shouldn't be afraid of this transition that needs

erich: it does.rocess for withdrawal has been a three year process from the point where the paris agreement came into effect, each decide to be a part of it and president obama did that. once it occurs, there is a three year waiting period to get out of the agreement should a country choose to do so. this is something trump has been saying over and over again since the election. they filed the initial paperwork in 2017. the clock has now started. it will occur almost the day before the election. host: the official withdrawal. erich: there are 197 countries that are signed onto the paris agreement. the united states will be the only country to have withdrawn from the paris agreement, essentially turning us into a rogue state and a rogue actor and it global climate conversations. host: what are the biggest emitters of admissions? erich: china but you have to look at historical connotations where united states has been historically the largest emitter of greenhouse gas globally. we have an enormous amou

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