let's start with you, erich pica , then we will move on to cindy.the issue of where the oil goes and who uses this oil that crosses the united states through nebraska down to the gulf coast. >> that is an interesting question because when we talk about energy security, it is for who. , before of transcanada congress, was asked in testimony whether or not this tar sands be used on american soil will be used exclusively the u.s.. he could not testify under oath it would. the state department of our mental impact statement kind of further clarifies that much of this oil in the refining of the tar sand is going to be used for export. this whole energy security argument is really just like the erm's conflict of interest disclosure, it is just bogus. >> cindy schild, your response? >> clearly, you know i'm going to disagree. initially, there were some criticism or one line of attack was that this was an expert pipeline and we're going to ship crude from alberta province in canada down to 1700 miles to the gulf coast. when that did not hold up or have wate