will ericsson, will nokia make a play for some of that is this? is there the potential here to jump in while the u.s. is in sort of limbo about whether or not it will support everything related to the blacklist? they wouldn't think do that. the ball is very much in the u.s. court as above -- as to how much they want to go ahead. the key thing is not so much the equipmentn the huawei and on the american ship companies. if that goes ahead, it's up to operators around the world to make a decision as to if they are in a position to deal with huawei and can they make the commitments to them or if they feel it could be a problem in that and if they look elsewhere to approach nokia and ericsson. i am sure that there will be discussions going on as we speak about what could be the potential circumstances or the ways out for these operators if it came to that, but ultimately i don't think that more could be made by nokia or ericsson. it has to come from the operators themselves. guy: it will be interesting to see how china and chinese consumers respond to

this is police towing the car out of the home of devon ericsson. he and another student walked into the school and shot their classmates in two separate locations. one person has died. 18-year-old kendrick castillo. it happened as school ended yesterday. parents describe the sheer terror. >> she was in mrs. harper's room when the shooters came in shooting. she said two of her classmates took the shooters down. and she was able to escape. >> so sad. some family members of the student who died tell nbc that he is an 18-year-old student. investigators so far are not releasing ericsson's photo. >> it is 4:36 right now. new details on release of body camera video. it shows ronell foster by ava lay hoe police officer. the confrontation started when the officer tried to stop foster on his bike. it quickly escalated. the officer only activated his body camera after shooting foster and claimed foster had grabbed his flashlight. that's just one of the issues leaving family members outraged. their attorney plans to talk about the video this morning and the of

, but ericsson and nokia and a few of the other is...i i seem to be more advanced. and cheaper. i think that's why philip hammond likes it. let's move on guardian. this was a huge story this morning, a huge story for everybody, but are we going to pay attention? we've been talking about a royal baby and then out in the real world there is this un report three years in the making, 450 scientists saying a million species could go extinct. it doesn't say buy when, we were just looking. but i guess if they go extinct it doesn't matter when. but it is pretty stark. one in ten insects, two in five amphibians. and it isa insects, two in five amphibians. and it is a real splash of water in the face to people. it is on the agenda in the us and america, there is the green deal that has been spoken about, obviously the extinction rebellion protests in the centre of town that have brought the debate to the centre of the conversation. and the centre of the conversation. and the tone for the scientists who have worked on the report is grabbing people

this was the ceo of ericsson live from paris.hank you for that great interview, the ericsson chief executive on everything from targets to the five g networks. continuessurveillance in the next hour. tom keene joints me out of new york. coming up, an exclusive interview with nikolai mendelson . we will ask her about data privacy. and we also have a conversation with usain bolt, the fastest man in the world. leadership and putting scooters around paris. and trumps threat on the highway. we will look at that. we will look at treasuries and what the market is looking at. this is bloomberg. ♪ francine: trade tensions intensify over who controls 5g technology networks. --sident trouble curb president trump will curb huawei 's access. debt also the lowest level since 2017 and yields hold steady after touching a three-month low. and surveillance on the road. we are live in paris where we speak to the fastest man in the world, usain bolt. and we speak to patricia arquette. lacqua in london. tom keene in new york. a bit of a different sho

as a prelude to the demonstration ericsson switches off the mains supply. now there's no power from the mains that's why the fridge light is off. then if a sim fires up the stove. the sinks see the rising it was at zero what's a moment ago now we're at three if we wait ten more minutes we'll be at around two hundred watts. on. them and don't forget all this from firewood just would not oil or gas. ten minutes after the fire was lit the refrigerator is plugged into a socket connected directly to the special started. the fire is burning bright under lectures the t. is flowing. really the most fun the moment of truth. and it works. as even if it is a very promising and interesting technology we'll be hearing more about it like. ericsson's company already manufactures themselves the state he says there's lots of interest and he gets inquiries from all over the world. climate change is a global crisis. we already know many of the causes. and the consequent things like floods and droughts which could also have severe implications for the timber industry. research

do but first of all let me mention the scale of operations that take place in china by gnocchi, ericsson and even cisco and in the case of no kia active involvement in the chinese government in the joint venture with no kia to the extent that geographic access presents risk the u.s. government has found ways to address that risk in the i saw a comment to the principal deputy of the director of national intelligence recently about two issues. one has to do with backdoors which he said they could test for any other has to do with customer data. there are mechanisms to address the risk and the assumption is that because our equipment in the network we have access to all the information but we are not trying to sell them to the core but we want to sell into the rear access. the fact is there are strict requirements when we go to service the customer and there's an assumption that the huawei network is attached to the customer network and it's not for them, we are mechanisms in all subject to explicit permission of the customer every time, especially when we think of laptops with virtual priv

alex: knocking ericsson, if you are a u.s.ant to do any government business in 4g you cannot use while way equipment. -- you cannot use huawei. supplyhas been able to the market in the internet of things. 5g, youve from 4g and will have factories and farms and office buildings running not on cables and not on wi-fi, but on five g networks. that is a huge opportunity for all of these suppliers. huawei, alsoo samsung. huawei coming out of the picture creates a huge opportunities for these guys. david: a further question is what comes next. if we can learn from the trade negotiations, china tends to respond. what can china due to react to what president trump has done? john: i will start by saying that is the big concern. is an important company to china because of their desire to lead intact. fall way is the look -- huawei is the largest telecom equipment company in the world. it is their shining star. my concern is they've may begin to i apple as a tool to get back to the u.s. apple has fallen outside the blast radius of this t

a lot of consolidation so they're not many players who can take who obviously dominant position ericsson nokia. cisco their few players but their equipment tend to be a little more expensive and that is problematic for the carriers who are already expected to do all out of fortune for the 5 g. spectrum and also the fact 5 is still distance away who why you couldn't is used widely for the for the existing technologies the 4 g.'s the 3 g.'s it could even find it difficult to service them with spare parts so many units would be very difficult going forward if. the scope of this entire order is properly understood. by the experts right and should spend a day reporting from the frankfurt stock exchange thank you. now the german association of women entrepreneurs or v.d.u. has been promoting female entrepreneurship for 65 years now at the moment the v.d.u. represents about 1800 to many medium sized companies led by women in areas such as manufacturing handicrafts trade and then the service sector that together with their companies they generate 85000000000 euros in sales and they employ about

, that ericsson is way behind huawei, but i'm not -- it's unlikely that that's suddenly a business.f r&d behind it there are a lot of small players in that, in all the pieces of the radio access network and elsewhere, but the idea that one of them is going to scale to be a real viable competitor to huawei or ericsson, hard to see. >> can i just ask you -- there is a headline just crossing now -- the fcc will not formally approve the merger between print and t-mobile on monday because it must still draft order. this is according to reuters, a source that they have there. it is moving the stocks. you can see sprint is up by 6.8%, t-mobile up by 2.7%. what do you think? >> i'd have to see what they're going to approve there have been reports all weekend that sprint and t-mobile have been getting closer in meetings with the fcc to a formal proposal that you'd have to believe they wouldn't be announcing unless they had come -- is a separate process and it's not entirely clear from anything i've heard so far where the doj is everybody always assumed the doj, not the fcc, was the bigger hu

and even motorola may be up for the release we even hear of a comeback from from ericsson and nokia. the interesting. thing for us in singapore thank you very much. while the war rages on europe is trumpeting its ambitions to become a leader in key technologies artificial intelligence has won the chinese have got the upper hand there and truth be told to the e.u. legs way behind critics say brussels has no one else to blame except for itself reports larger networks faster speeds new calls for regulation the next e.u. parliament has its work cut out for it when it comes to digital transformation but more than cables and hardware a new mindset is needed that's according to professor christoph mind he said of the hasso plattner institute in potsdam germany which educates students in i.t. and has designed cloud schooling and health records projects in germany and the us michael believes europe is too concerned with technologies evils and that it slows tech progress by focusing on process. in this they start to create something and sense and see whether it works and then they debate where

but we have no cheo and ericsson.his will not affect their ability to buy from them -- we have no pr and ericsson, -- we ericsson.a and . this will not affect their ability to buy from them. sen. van hollen: these companies were built on the theft of american technology, and our components are embedded in a lot of the equipment they sell. over the long-term, could they change their supply chain and get different components, over the long-term, yes. but in the long-term, this would have very severe consequences for them. if you recall, after we caught the zte violating the iran sanctions, the commerce department put in blocking order on components of zte, something senator rubio and i pushed hard for, but then president trump tweeted out that he wanted to help president xi jinping and the commerce department withdrew that order. welcome but this would put the block in order back in place. . the only question is the scope of it, how does the department of commerce go about providing licenses for the sale of, and which c

isn't this a big win for ericsson >> yeah, sure. >> even if this settles, do you think huawei will behave to go to europe they're 60% of china mobile, china unicom, china telecom. and you're talking about a billion people they're going to cover. >> right. >> so they don't necessarily have to be exposed to europe >> do you believe that huawei's not going to be exposed to europe you don't believe huawei's basically running europe right now? >> no, i think the idea of this espionage i think is -- i'm skeptical of that type of claim. i think that ericsson is going to benefit as a result of this conflict but ultimately, the rollout to 5g, whether it's in europe or in china and in the u.s. is going to benefit all of the bay station vendors, including huawei, including ericsson so i don't necessarily see, you know -- >> raj, your last name is gill you know, for people on the radio. i mean, your kids aren't even going to know you were on. >> raji gill. >> you actually have a last name it's gill. >> i do. >> okay, excellent i just want to get that in there so people will actually know you're o

david: ericsson. >> ericsson, there you go. these three all the alternatives.sure that we incentivizing the deployment of 5g technology in our major cities and throughout rural communities as well, so that american companies are the ones that take advantage of the infrastructure that 5g provides. right now, huawei has 30% of the global market, and it is cheaper. david: this is a national security issue as you say. at the same time, we had these negotiations over trade going on with china. we just go to a brookings institution expert who said it would be impossible to keep those things separate. visit also love for this to not bleed over into trade? of this stuff is interconnected. one thing we should also do right now is go ahead and put additional sanctions on zte. handsets, produce the telephone, mobile handsets. they were proud to have violated a number of international sanctions. we could've put a ban on allowing u.s. parts to be used in zte products for up to seven years. this would have been a death blow to one of the largest and most profitable chinese c

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if the supreme court takes up one of these in 2020, which is more to eric ericsson's point. no matter how they rule, it will fire up or not fire up, depending what they do. i john roberts is aware of what year it is next year and would not take up an abortion case until there was a 2021. >> i think he will not. i'll make a bold prediction and agree with you there. in a landscape in which the culture wars have often redowned to the republicans, they'll point to not all those other bills that may be considered more moderate by some standards but they'll point to the alabama bill. sorry to keep going back to the polling but we love polling, right? >> yeah. >> overwhelmingly, american people, pro life people support allowing those exceptions in the cases of rape and incest, in the cases of the health of the mother. >> so, you're doug jones, okay? alabama won't be a swing state but alabama will have a lot of outsized impact on control of united states senate. doug jones can suddenly have pat robertson in his television ads. >> uh-huh. >> i think this gives him a sliver, a sliver

ericsson created that. carl shapiro, the economist, who issued a theoretical base, wasn't even cited in koh's reaction here what this all means is, i think there's a very high probability for a stay and an appeal here. >> so you think qualcomm's got a shot on appeal based on -- you think they have an argument on the facts here >> oh, absolutely. the facts of the case, that are in the report, the lack of even bringing in the offense, the ftc's star witness, who was carl shapiro who just talked theory because to be found guilty of this you have to not have a theory you can be anti-competitive but actually show harm. facts were that nobody actually got on stage and said that qualcomm didn't ship us chips because we didn't have an agreement. i think this is going to be very quickly appealed qualcomm's already trying to appeal it. i think they will get a very quick stay and i think this will be overturned. >> pat, would this depending on how all of this shakes out, if there's an appeal, would this spur more comp

we heard today you guys talked about soft bank looking at nokia and ericsson for equipment and so theomponent companies that i think sell into a broad diversified base of manufacturers could benefit. so for right now, we're looking at valuations, and we're looking at estimates that have been resized for the huawei impact and what to do next, but certainly, if this continues, you know, this could affect white goods that get sold into china. there's a lot of component companies that sell into all of these different markets that, you know, in general, are going to face some issues. really quickly, the consumer and the behavior of the customers that are buying these components is uncertain microchips of broad based manufacturer and semiconductor components, they thought we would see a bottom and now they're starting to see cautious behavior and basically guided below seasonal so we're seeing that already >> and to reuben's point, stacy, we did have some players in the quarter print argue that we had reached or were approaching cycle lows do you think that gets updated if this trade war co

some of the gainers included nokia and ericsson.l seeing maybe interesting because of the competition with quality -- , these telecoms makers are rising. everybody else is falling and you will see big, big names. down.is down, sap is interestingly, wirecard is one of the biggest point deductions. that is not one of the big names, but there are serious concerns about the government looking into wirecard for a legend fraud issues -- a legend --alleged fraud issues. let's get first word news. turkey has exited its first recession in a decade. gdp expanded 1.3% last quarter. a continued recovery still hinges on the prospects for the lira. a controversial rerun of istanbul elections is also keeping the market on edge. s&p has raised its sovereign rating for indonesia, citing the nations of strong growth prospects and prudent fiscal policy. this will be a boost for the nation's president. he has pledged to bolster growth and invest in infrastructure. the italian a deputy premier has one of the backing of his party's activists in an online

>>mckinney is female, but identifies as male and uses the name alec ericsson's facebook page includes the message. you know what i hate all these christians who hate gays erickson in a brief court appearance kept his head bowed except for a series of quick responses to questions from the judge. >>that school had an armed security guard and just tonight there are reports that he may have accidentally shot and wounded one of the students 8 students were injured in all 3 are still in the hospital tonight. the national conversation has now turned to what can be done to combat gun violence and has called for his washington correspondent. >>alexandra will mount reports for us tonight. neither students at the school nor lawmakers on capitol hill can agree on what the right answer is. >>and stem school to honor the 18 year-old killed in a shooting at the school or opted into a protest as mourners clashed over gun control. some said the school shooting was being politicized while others argued something has to change or more students will be killed all you could hear was screaming and yelling

>>mckinney is female, but identifies as male and uses the name alec ericsson's facebook page includesu know what i hate all these christians who hate gays erickson in a brief court appearance kept his head bowed except for a series of quick responses to questions fro

gnocchi and ericsson. they had tremendous presence in china, including nokia. somehow the risk mitigation measures in place satisfied the u.s. government. okia gnocchi a -- that n does not present a risk to the united states. we just want to talk to the u.s. government and talk about risk mitigation measures that might work in the u.s. so we can provide assurance and transparency. drew: you come from a federal cyber background? andy: i was a prosecutor. i joined the president bush team to secure cyberspace and then moved to homeland security in 2003 and we were setting up the cyber security effort. i led the u.s. cyber security effort. drew: did it take a bit of research on your part to say that you trust huawei before joining up? andy: i don't trust anybody. when i was recruited, on the part about reaching out, we will be advocates for a safer cyberspace. i have been able to be an advocate for a safer american cyberspace. i am not a defender of while -- i am not a defender of huawei. we need the best technology. it is critically important we address risks. i h

infrastructure so there's really no other alternatives to go to you know you have nokia and you have ericsson but they only represent a small amount of the market if you want to build out a five g. network in your country you gotta go to while away thank you so much miles edwards regulatory attorney. thank you so much kristie. time now for a quick break but first some breaking news we reported yesterday on the prospects of u.s. president donald trump's nominee for federal reserve c. stephen moore earlier today president announced via twitter that mr moore has withdrawn himself from consideration here because when we return the u.s. commodity futures trading commission chair says the explosion of interest in quote the currency could open the door for new clearing houses investigative journalist ben swan will give us the details. the bank of england announced that it would afford interest rates at zero point seven five percent following last month's decision to extend the bride said deadline to october thirtieth the way forward for the british american business association joins us to discuss w

shares in rivals ericsson and nokia are both higher in early trade.ew designs of huawei smartphones are set to lose access to some google apps. ryanair‘s profits fell by nearly a third last year to £880 million as fuel costs rose and fares fell. europe's biggest discount airline added that profits could be lower this year as fares continue to fall. more in a moment. now to tata motors, india's biggest car—maker and the owner ofjaguar land rover — and you might want to cover your eyes. this within the past hour, it's reported a 47% drop in quarterly profits, and a full year pre—tax loss of £3.6 billion. the group is really struggling to sell the luxury jaguar land rover cars in key markets such as china. however, jlr returned to profit in the fourth quarter, following a big restructuring and cost—cutting drive. rachel burgess is deputy editor of autocar and joins me from the newsroom. soup, some signs of a turnaround in the fourth quarter, but this is a massive fall in profits, what has gone wrong? there are a lot of things at play here. china is a maj

well there are one of several players along with nokia and ericsson but where they really matter is they are significantly cheaper there are countries that just can't get to 5 g. unless a while weighs in the market and there are carriers that are dependent today on 4 g. for wall ways gear and couldn't imagine ripping that out and putting in a rival so i think we're going to see very quickly that as much as wall way is dependent on the u.s. companies for their technology networks around the globe depend on wall way to have an affordable option to deliver cellular communications but clearly we're always going to be suffering short term damage that is obvious how about the long term because it must be very difficult for it to try and plan for the future it's talking already obviously about having its own operating system its own not success to get around the google problem but long term what is the situation of wall way i mean it's certainly going to be huge hurdle moving to something that isn't google's android will be a tough sell especially outside of china i think the risk of the rest o

japanese qualcomm unit has selected nokia and ericsson as vendors for its next-generation wireless network, excluding longtime supplier huawei. the trump administration has been encouraging allies to ban the chinese company, citing security risks. the chinese have not made an official decision on huawei, but local media says its top shun huawei and zte. onto the latest with boeing. they have outlined plans ge is the 737 max 8 back into commercial service. the ceo says it will take around three months before flights will resume. in the meantime, teams are preparing to take almost 500 jets out of storage, including around 100 new planes that cannot be delivered until the lifted.g is officially global news, 24 hours a day, on air and at tictoc on twitter, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 100 20 countries. i'm su keenan, this is bloomberg. up, the activist investor capital founder shares his bets from the conference in hong kong. that is next. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> you're watching "bloomberg markets." as promised, we have sorted out our technical issues. we hav

providers such as ericsson, nokia, that they could possibly work with. shery: there will be some winners out of all of this. what does this mean for the rollout of critical 5g business networks around the world? woo jin ho: that is a great question. i think that the rollout has been tempered. if anything, it is going to temper it even more. number one, because, the u.s. allowing other countries to use huawei equipment, and now you have a potential supplier ban that may impede huawei from manufacturing and selling equipment in the future. if i am a 5g telecom service provider who has a pullout in in place, iollout needed to map my strategy and how i'm going to roll that out. i don't forget will be any faster. if anything, it may be slower. -- i don't think it will be any faster. if anything, it may be slower. joining us.r here in australia, heading to the polls this weekend. compulsory voting here, and we will potentially continue the revolving door of political leaders that has given australia seven heads of state in the past 10 years. the election takes

we know three of the injured victims still remain in intensive care. 18-year-old devon ericsson walked and shot their classmates in two separate locations. >> the next thing i know he is pulling a gun and he's telling nobody to move. and then when kendrick lunged at him and he shot kendrick, giving us enough time to get underneath our desks to get ourselves safe and to run across the room to escape. >> wow. so deputies quickly arrived and managed to stop that shooting within minutes. the shooting happened about seven miles away from the columbine school shooting 20 years ago. you can actually watch that student's full interview on the "today" show right after "today in the bay". >> such a sad series of events for those kids. thank you very much. 6:33 right now. a warning if you're planning on picking up an uber or lytt today. rideshare drivers are expected to strike today in at least 10 cities, including here in the bay area. talk about the drivers's demands, pete. >> they are hoping the 12-hour strike is expected to take place later today. uber drivers are being told to log off for 12

. >> softbank japanese telecom selected nokia and ericsson as vendors for its next-generation wireless network excluding longtime supplier huawei. the trump administration has been urging allies to ban the chinese companies citing security risks. japan has not made an official decision on the four-way that -- huawei. as the trump administration has escalated its battle with european allies over the iran nuclear accord. it is threatening penalties against a financial body created by germany, the u.k. and france to protect trade with the islamic republic from u.s. sanctions. a treasury department letter warns that anyone associated with it could be barred from the u.s. financial system. global news 24 hours a day on air and at tictoc on twitter powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. treasurer's rally rolling on. throwing the yield curve into further inversion. our global economics and policy editor is here with us. is this still about the trade headlines or has investor sentiment fundamentally shifted? >> it may be that the deepe

marcus ericsson going for a little spin on pit lane.o accidents happened on the track with 13 laps remaining, sebastian bourdais on outside driving into graham rahal. when racing would resume, it was all pagenaud. led for 116 of the 200 laps for his first career victory at the indy 500. >> it's an hard to believe right now it's been such an intense race. i believe we led most of the race. so the car was unreal. yell lows came out perfectly. stars are aligned. man, wow, seeing myself on tv with this is pretty amazing. > the pit stops went much better in charlotte for the coca-cola 600 except when a tire gets loose. kyle larsson's night was done early. 85 laps to go, spins and eventually hits the wall, taking out austin dillon in the process. martin true ex-pa nearly spins out but able to keep control. he would take the checkered ed . the bay area toronto rivalry got started today on the pitch. the quakes taking -- facing toronto fc. chris wan doe lou ski scored four goals last time they played. he was not done today scoring twice includi

people hated ericsson but we're starting to be ready to compromise on quality and be sure that huaweithe trojan horse huawei could be a trojan horse >> they have been saying that -- >> what will be the response to us putting out of business one of the most important companies in china >> by the way, the korean war, come on -- when he went to the communist chinese and said, listen, we're going to slaughter all of you, is that what you want we're killing all of you is that the movie they're showing? >> i haven't been getting -- >> i was asked to do a movie of that let me tell you, that would be a bad movie. we literally went to them and said, listen, we are slaughtering all of you. we don't want to slaughter any more of you, will you please pull back? that's how that war ended? it never really ended. you went to it. >> yes, he was at the dmz. >> i went to the dmz. >> did that war ever end >> that was a year ago we were talking about detente and reunification. >> when i saw your -- i was so worried for you. because obviously to me it seemed scary. >> you guys can handle the show on your

kia, ericsson, samsung. we have no other american company in this space. the british point out some of that makes even existing while way equipment vulnerable. the real challenge and one of the things we need to lean on is not to say here is a flaw and consequently that means there is a vulnerability, but the notion of a distributed network, the beion of 5g, it is going to 20 towers in the community, 1000 towers afterwards. it is much closer connected and will have new versatility the network will offer. , because you have this distributed network with no single switch, you can send upgrades on a regular basis. those upgrades, even if your equipment is secure today, it may not be tomorrow. theupgrade may have invented malware in the upgrade. there is no way you can make your network secure with that kind of constant upgrades and maintenance that the huawei solution offers. you have to remember, not just aidu,i, but ali baba, b tencent. these are all companies that have to be subject to the whims of the communist party of china. there is no single fix or be

they offered this and offer that price point at 30% less than the other western vendors, kia, ericsson, samsung, no american company in the states and the british point out some of the sloppiness that was in the code that made even existing huawei equipment. the real challenge and most of the things we need to be more forward leaning on is not to say here's a flaw and consequently that means there's a bone ability but the notion of a distributed network and the notion of 5g not current cell phone technology but it will be some of the thousand towers "after words" because it's much closer connected to be able to have the versatility that new network will offer. what happens with huawei is because you have this distributed network with no single switch you can send upgrades on a regular basis and those upgrades even if your agreement is secure today may not be smart because the upgrade may have been the embedded malware and there's no way that you can make your network secure with that kind of constant upgrades and maintenance that the huawei solution offers. you also have to remember no

police say 18-year-old devon ericsson and a female student walked into the school and shot their classmates in two separate locations. also new this morning, we are hearing from a witness who is inside one of those classrooms. the family members identify the student at kendrick castillo. >> the next thing i know he's pulling a gun and telling nobody to move. and that's when kendrick lunged at him, and he shot kendrick, giving all of us enough time to get underneath our desks to get ourselves safe and to run across the room to escape. >> imagine their horror. deputies arrived, managed to stop the shooting within minutes. you can watch the interview on the "today" show after "today in the bay". >>> such a sad story. 5:32. this is a warning if you're planning to pick up an uber or lift you might be waiting to catch that ride. >> pete suratos live at uber headquarters in san francisco. so talk a little bit about what these drivers are demanding, pete. >> reporter: well, laura, at the top of the list for their demands will be better wages. they want higher wages when it comes to driving for uber

they are going to lead with samsung, nokia, and ericsson. it is not true that they should have to wait. there might be economic considerations. we hear that it is up to 50% cheaper on the front end, it as mr. krebs mentioned, the long-term lifecycle costs -- the u.k. found hundreds of all abilities in the software. you have to constantly patch that. patching that is not worth the cost. it makes the cost longer in the long run. >> the u.k. government set up a dedicated oversight mechanism to monitor huawei and huawei has not demonstrated in a 10 year period any improvement in their security engineering process. they are still doing the things they said they were going to fix 10 years ago. they promised a transformation program. there is no plan. there has been no change. i think the premise you can establish is not cost-effective. actions speak louder than words. we are not seeing the follow-through globally. sen. sasse: i want to underscore two things. thank you to both of you. i think -- i hope we talk more about how security updates will w

they are going to lead with samsung, nokia, and ericsson. it is just fundamentally not true that we should have to wait. there might be economic considerations. we hear that it is up to 50% cheaper on the front end, it as mr. krebs mentioned, the long-term lifecycle costs -- the u.k. found hundreds of vulnerabilities in the software. you have to constantly patch that. patching that is not worth the cost. it makes the cost longer in the long run. >> the u.k. government set up a dedicated oversight mechanism to monitor huawei equipment in their networks, and huawei has not demonstrated in a 10 year period any improvement in their security engineering process. they are still doing the things they said they were going to fix 10 years ago. they promised a transformation program. putting $2 billion against it. there is no plan. there has been no change. i think the premise that you can establish an oversight monitoring board, it is just not cost-effective. and what will they get you? actions speak louder than words. we are not seeing the follow-th

about the two students accused of committing a deadly shooting outside of denver. 18-year-old devon ericsson and an unidentified juvenile suspect made their first court appearance yesterday. one student died in the shooting. eight others were jumped. they used to car pool together. one former student is speaking out saying he and his brother left because of them. >> we were friends, we found out what was happening and who it was. we weren't surprised. you could kind of see that coming from a mile away. >> investigators are looking into the possibility one was shot by the school's private security guard. both suspects are due back tomorrow. >>> security concerns as well. we're developing a story, watching a developing story in san money, where some students may be keeping their kids from class at california high school. police officers stationed there after the discovery of at least two recent graffiti messages threatening an attack. school officials are working with police to track down whoever is behind the bogus threatening messages. >>> new this morning, a new strike threat issued by teac