knows in a way that they said they were never talked to additionally you saw by going to erie erie pennsylvania has not been barnstormer stop for a democratic candidate since obama so they were just bringing everyone to the table and i also think across social media people really feel invested in what the outcome of this is and it just drove people's emotions and drove them to the poll or i lose show cupolas the analyst and been very much for talking to us and you know. now of course we'll keep following those results in the u.s. for you but now let's take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world u.s. president donald trump's top white house chief of staff mark meadows has tested positive for covert 19 according to reports meadows' age 61 had told people he had the virus after the election though it's unclear whether when he was 1st tested. police in austria have closed a mosque and a prayer room which they say the suspect in monday's terror attack regularly visited and putting the pictures same survey in the wrong order but 4 people died in that mass shooting on monday

erie, but the vania.- in erie, but the -- my eye on it, pennsylvania. on erie, pennsylvania. continue. kevin: if you want to get an idea of trade relationships, go to erie, pennsylvania. it is the great lakes states. michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. that is one of the counties that president trump was able to flip from hillary clinton back from obama years. that is one of the swing counties in this state. think to minnesota, i minneapolis, the site of the george floyd protests over the summer. that is another example of where you could see if president trump is going to have a good night in minnesota. that could be a positive night for republicans across the board. jonathan: everyone on the outside looking in is taking note of this huge turnout, huge amount of early voting. we joke at the top of the hour that every single pungent -- everything will pundit talks about how huge the turnout is. why is it important? no one seems to know what it actually means. kevin: i am not a pundit. i'm a reporter. if you look at the early introduction of the data we have seen from the 90 plus million

erie, pennsylvania. we got a couple thousand more votes released. it is, again, favored biden. trump's gap, again, ticks down statewide. suddenly, eriented blue with that update of early votes. it's joe biden who now, by the narrowest of margins, leads in erie county, pennsylvania. this is interesting because erie county was one of those, it was a big swing in 2016. this had been obama, by 16 points. it's went far trump's way in 2016. but biden moving to the lead in erie county and again, given where this vote is going, seems like he will stay in the lead in erie county and flip it blue. so again, pennsylvania moves to 73,000. but the big piece of news, right now, and i want to update something we talked about earlier. in georgia, where donald trump's margin statewide is now just votes. the biggest piece of outstanding real estate here is chatham county, which is where savannah is. now, the city of savannah had been indicating, earlier today, no release. no vote release, until tomorrow. now, we've got some reporters on the ground there, local reporters, who say they are being told by chatham officials that the vote counting is all do

erie. you talk to political analysts in pennsylvania. they will tell you as erie goes so does pennsylvania. the president won erie by two points in 2016. went for barack obama in 2008 and 2012 and blue for the 2018 mid-terms. there is a lot of focus tomorrow night on erie and what those people there are doing because that is, as you say, one of the leading bellwethers in pennsylvania and speculation the president not doing as well in erie this time around as he did last time around. but again you can see the polls narrowing. you mentioned that hillary clinton was up by 2.1 percentage points on election day last year. this time last year she was up by 4.9% over the president. so in one day he sliced away about almost three points off that scorecard. that is a big last-minute push for momentum for the president that we and campaign is hoping to see again. >> sandra: we'll see the president a short time from now landing in north carolina. we'll take his remarks live as we begin a brand-new hour. and we're less than 24 hours out to election day 2020 when the country will decide its next president. both candidates making final pitches today

pennsylvania, erie county. vice president mike pence campaigning in erie less than two weeks after president trump, eric trump hasfor obama/biden in 2012, but then it flipped in 2016. grady trimble is there today, so i guess about 300 miles away from us, but it looks cold there too, which is reassuring. what are you seeing in erie county, grady? >> reporter: it is, connell. as you mentioned, erie county really a bellwether for pennsylvania and, in fact, the rest of the country. and that's why the candidates have spent so much time here in the weeks leading up to the election as well as their surrogates. today jill biden here this morning, and vice president mike pence here just a couple of hours ago before leaving for michigan. pence making one last appeal to voters who helped carry president trump to victory here in 2016. that was the first time a republican candidate won erie county since 1984. on the flipside, jill biden urging voters to swing back in the democrats' favor. one of the messages that really worked here for trump back in 2016 was that he would bring back jobs, manufacturing jobs to places just lik

pennsylvania. and biden has flip some counties erie county which trump won in 2016 areas, north up here's pittsburgh, here's erie. it's now blue trump won that trump went to erie within the past week and a half told the crowd at a rally. i didn't think i'd have to come back to erie. but here i am trump knew how type pennsylvania would be and he really focus on pa. we don't know can he hold out. that's the big question we don't know when the final votes will be counted in pennsylvania. there have been rumblings that might be tomorrow could be saturday could be tonight. that's the grand question in all of this nevada 6 electoral college votes that would propelled by dunn from to 64. to 2.70 that little that little bit he needs but nevada i mean they kill things for a living in nevada, but for whatever reason they can't count votes that and i look back on it biden still has a lead in nevada. and his lead actually has increased from last night it was at 8,000 votes last night and you see here it's up to about 12,000. so we don't know what's going to happen with nevada and the intel. they're suggests with 84% of the

another place up here, from the southeast corner to the northwest corner of pennsylvania, erie, erieday late into the night yesterday, this was still red. and you see it's still very close. 49.6 to 48.7. but again, they have some ballots to count here. every update that came from erie county yesterday was lopsided. disproportionately joe biden, democrats voted by mail. the president got his vote on election day, he's getting a small percentage of these mail-in ballots, which is what he wanted. he campaigned several rallies in pennsylvania. told his people to swarm to the polls on election day and they did. the president's overall vote totals in pennsylvania, 3.28 million, 2.9 million. this is not a question of the preside president's vote not turning out. the president turned out a lot of voters. those ballots were counted on election day. joe biden turned out a lot of voters and those ballots are still being counted. we have votes from lehigh valley to come and 36,000 more out here. they've been coming in lopsided for joe biden. simple math tells you the president's 18,000-vote lead

eries. we've got erie county that will be important in pennsylvania and erie county could be telling here, toonow -- and it's only half the vote in -- you see joe biden is winning it, but you can see why i care about erie county. when obama carried ohio, he carried erie county. when trump carried ohio, he carried erie county. so look, along the lake here -- and i told you, along these lake counties, this is where trump cleaned up, this is where biden has to improve. halfway through, don't pop any champagne corks to the democrats here, but clearly, ohio much more competitive. let me take you down to north carolina right now, another state we're watching. more than 60% of the vote is in. we're up to 62% here. and i was talking about margins. biden had a bad day in miami-dade. he's got a really good day in raleigh and in the triangle here, in wake county. let me show you something here. you see this split, 82% in, 65%-33%. let me show you wake county over the last three cycles. as you can see here, joe biden, wake county. this is research triangle. you guys know this. this is, you know, hotbed, a

. >> reporter: it's hard to understate the important of erie, show me who wins erie county i show you who will win pennsylvania presidency. as of right now vice president joe biden is leading in the polls in pennsylvania but that lead is narrowing and this state is still seen as a toss-up and certainly a must-win for president trump. neil. neil: thank you very much. speaking of pennsylvania, something remarkable happened that we have not seen since 1972 that could be good news for the president of the united states. the pittsburgh post gazette endorsed the president over his handling over the economy. it's the first gop presidential endorsement since 1972. a year by the way that richard nixon and reelection won the traditionally democratic state, bill johnson, former heinz ceo. that's certainly unusual and a sign that the paper in this case we are looking at economic pickup prior to the pandemic but since the pandemic, what do you make of it? >> neil, we lived in pennsylvania for 38 years,i don't read the opinion in the gazette because it's been reliably democratic n. this case they encapsulated frankly what w

erie, pennsylvania. and in a signed affidavit, richard hawkins says the postmaster in erie told employees to back date mail-inpkins now being targeted as a whistleblower. he has been placed on unpaid leave. that may sound like retribution and retaliation on the part of management to most, but apparently not to the u.s. postal service. perhaps, perhaps the justice department will be looking into that as well. our next guest has been fighting across the country, helping the trump campaign stop the efforts of radical dems, trying apparently in some pluses -- places to rig the election. at least the outcome. joining us now, corey lewandowski, senior adviser to the 2020 trump campaign. corey, how goes the fight? >> lou, you know, it's amazing. in philadelphia -- i don't know if your viewers saw this today, but we had covered a hit list, if you will, a list of individuals who were denied access to the polling locations to view the ballots being counted, and one of the people on that list was myself where even though i had a badge to get in, they were going to deny me access. so the fight continues in pennsylvania.

pennsylvania with the outstanding vote. we have a couple of switches here. here's a switch. erie county. biden looks like he's going to win erieounty, narrowly. a come of years ago, trump carried it narrowly. it's a swing. it's a narrow swing wrchlt is the performance here for the democrats in pennsylvania? for biden in pennsylvania? it's in the philadelphia suburbs. it's in increasing levels of support. in chester county, biden is winning by 17 points. here, outside of philadelphia, it was ten. that's the bounce, that's the bump. that's the increase for democrats in pennsylvania. but, you know -- i'll give you another one here. lackawanna county. this is scranton. bind talked about scranton every other sentence he spoke in this campaign. he was born in scranton. let's go back to two elections. lackawanna county was a democrat for 17-plus county in 2012. it crashed all the way down to clinton by three points in 2016. this typified the kind of gains donald trump made in states like pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin in 2016. biden, the guy from scranton who built his entire campaign around it, okay, it's better than clinton, okay, i

erie, pennsylvania, where one strategist called it the oracle of pennsylvania. i is the oracle of pennsylvania. 11% off ofnton lost president obama the last election. is your research that mr. narrow that erie-- in pennsylvania? kevin: he is still trying to get out the vote effort. it really is the tale of how you look at it. from the democratic perspective, they say he is not barnstorming around the country like president trump, and that he is really focused on pennsylvania, where his campaign is headquartered, to turn it around. from the democratic perspective, they are saying joe biden should have pa lacked up -- pa locked up by now, but that fracking ff from the last debate really hurting him. this is a lot closer than the national polls are indicating, but it really depends on how these states break. tom: in my little brain right now on a monday, i can't figure this out. i read somewhere that somebody is talking about president biden would not have sanders or the senator from massachusetts in his cabinet. does he need to make some bold statement today about seizing the middle ground of his administration to go over the top? kevin: i think what his campaign would tell you is that he has

erie. i have to be honest. there was no way i was coming. >> we pay our own visit to see how party politics is playing with the folks of historic erie, pennsylvania. >> plus -- >> after so long, you can't take no, you have to go out and get your yes. from atlanta to detroit, how >> black women became one of the most powerful voting blocs in american politics. ♪ soledad: i'm soledad o'brien. welcome to "matter of fact ." there's a political transition underway from a trump presidency to a biden administration, though things are not yet final. in fact, we'll have to wait until december 14 when the electoral college meets to make it official. as the votes came in, it was pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes that put native son joe biden over the 270-vote electoral college threshold and made him the president-elect. pennsylvania, like most states, awards electoral votes to the winner of the state's popular vote. only two states split their deperkt electoral votes. nebraska, the red state, is one of those outliers and republicans want to reverse course. but standing in their way -- one long-time progressive state senator. our special correspondent joie chen has the story of ernie chambers and his decades-long crusade. >> to understand how one corner of "flyover" america shaped this election, look back to another presidential race that got itself on track here more than 50 years ago. in 1968, bobby kennedy's whistle stop tour across nebraska was a wigging -- big hit at every stop. >> i'll never forget that day. it was the most exciting campaign i've ever seen in any life at that point. strategists called it a turning >> point in kennedy's tragically brief campaign, but the memory stuck. >> someone said to me, 1968 was the last year that nebraska mattered in presidential politics. >> that's right. >> more than 20 years later, dianna schimek campaigned to make nebraska matter again. as a young lawmaker, she led a push to make nebraska only the second state to split its electoral votes instead of the winner take all system. joie: why did you want this for nebraska? >> because i wanted people to feel like their vote really counted. that it mattered whether they went to the polls or not and voted. i thought that it would increase activity and participation. and it did. and i thought that it might even bring some candidates to the state. >> only two states, maine and nebraska have the system two votes go to the state-wide winner, but each congressional district can choose its own. campaign signs most often the big red state has stayed in the red anyway, except in 2008 and again this year. a biden rally in nebraska's second congressional district -- a pocket-sized area in and around omaha -- picked the democrat, joe biden. does joe biden owe senator ernie chambers thanks for that one vote? >> no, nobody owes me thanks for anything i do. >> it's a modest re ply considering the credit social media gave north omaha's legendary lawmaker ernie chambers. his hashtag blew up, as the kids say, did you chambers, who doesn't use social media himself, values old-time heroes. >> the greatest philosopher/statesperson created or produced by america gave me my motto. -- mantra. pop iowa the -- popeye the sailor man. i am what i am, and that's all that i am. they will say that's not impressive because people see popeye as a comic strip character. joie: he's a unique figure in nebraska politics. the first, and for many of his 46 years in office, only african-american in the state house. at 83, he'll leave in january slowly because of term limits. i'm glad you didn't use that word "retirement. i'm not retiring. i'm being kicked out. >> biden's win is a fitting swan song for chambers, who fought off the effort effort at elimination in 2016, using a tried and true tactic -- the filibuster. >> what i do is called by other people filibustering. >> his last fight came in 2016, when once again, no one could outtalk ernie chambers. >> time is on my side, yes it is. >> and while others in the state house may find him comical, he is deadly serious about the cause. >> the reason i wanted to keep that one electle really a vote for the second congressional district in nebraska is that to the extent possible, the people who vote can feel that their vote had some, no matter how minuscule it was, some actual influence and impact on selecting a president. >> the polite vote did make an impact this year but chambers knows when he leaves office, republicans may seize their chance. what will they be doing to the people to have second district? >> they will be erasing the impact of their vote. their vote will mean nothing. it is reprehensible. >> and it won't go unnoticed that this time, the split vote made nebraska matter again. >> next on "matter of fact " -- >> we've had several election surprises. >> all the polls, all the press, all the pundits thought that thomas dewey was a sure winner, except for harry truman. we review the races that >> pollsters just couldn't predict. and later -- soledad: kamala harris is not the first person of color to be elected vice president. hear the story of the native american vice president you >> never knew about. we love the new apartment. the natural light is amazing. hardwood floors. there is a bit of a clogging problem. 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(laughing) bounty, the quicker picker upper. soledad: welcome back to matter of fact. if there's a political obituary to be written in this post-election season, could it be a eulogy for polling? the public confidence is again on the line, after the much talked about blue wave disintegrated in what appears to be a replay of the polling mistakes of 2016. american university professor w. joseph campbell is the author of "lost in a gallup: polling failure in u.s. presidential elections. professor joseph campbell, so nice to have you on the program. lets begin by looking at the past. this election certainly isn't the first time that polling has failed poll watchers, right? >> that is for sure. we have seen polling failures in presidential elections in this country since the 1930's. and they've occurred often enough for us to be very wary about polls and very skeptical about what they're saying. and the most dramatic polling failure in u.s. presidential history had to be that of 1948 when all the polls, all the press, all the pundits thought that thomas dewey was a sure winner and everybody was banking on this except for harry truman, who ran a very intense, aggressive, focused campaign and in the end won this election by 4.5 percentage points. it was a shock, a shock that was probably more profound and deeper in this country than donald trump's victory in 2016. soledad: you have called this, when you've written about polling post-election, a failure of journalism. what do you mean by that? >> it often is a failure of journalism in the sense that polls set a narrative. it is the predominant way by which journalists understand the dynamics of a presidential campaign, who's ahead, who's behind, who's making up ground and so forth. when that narrative goes wrong, when polls falter, journalism inevitably falters as well. soledad: susan collins of maine, i think, is a very good example of polling gone horribly awry because it was a very important race nationally. she never led, ever, in the polls, ever. and yet she won and didn't just win. she won handily over her opponent. soledad: you're absolutely right. and that is a fascinating election. they voted clearly for joe biden in this year's presidential race. at the same time, they voted for susan collins, a republican. so splitting tickets tends to be uncommon across the country these days. but maine is an exception. and that may have been a difficult factor for pollsters to pick up on. soledad: do you think there's an incentive among journalists to keep the race tight? >> i think the incentive to encourage a horserace notion really lies more with the candidates and the campaigns because they don't want to encourage their supporters to say it's in the bag. and so i think campaigns have a real incentive to say, hey, this is closer than we think it is. soledad: do you then predict the end of polling? >> i don't anticipate the end of polling. i don't think polling, election polling, is doomed. and if the industry really were that vulnerable to back-to-back election surprises, we would have seen this industry roll up and drift away after the 1952 election because that was the following election after dewey defeats truman. that embarrassment in 1948 and the pollsters in 1952 in the eisenhower-stevenson presidential race got it wrong again. there is no way that 2016 and 2020 back-to-back surprises is going to mean the end of polling. not at all. soledad: thank you so much for your time. always great to see you. >> thank you. soledad: this year, pennsylvania proved to be a challenge for pollsters. the state had gone red in 2016. one democratic stronghold that flipped was eriepennsylvania, in the far northwest corner of the state. a place president trump expected to hold in 2020. president trump: i have to be honest. there was no way i was coming. i didn't have to. i would have called you and said hey, erie, you know if you have a chance, get out and vote. we had this thing won. soledad: the president lost erie county this time around. the vote difference -- just under 1,500 votes. last year we visited erie as part of the "matter of fact listening tour and asked voter about its shifting political identity. >> when people outside of erie look at our home, what they see, i think, is a manufacturing, an old manufacturing town, a rust belt town that is filled with these blue-collar voters. really nothing could be further from the truth. soledad: find out how the voters in erie view their community and their politics. watch our full report on matteroffact.tv. coming up on "matter of fact " >> -- >> i am stacy ehn -- abrams. >> we met her before she hit the natio

erie county, northwestern pennsylvania, blue collar battleground it's very competitive, but, again, when erieme in last night, this county was red yesterday, when they mounted the mail-in ballots joe biden getting upwards of 70%, closer to 80% or more. there are still ballots to count and sometimes you get a change in the trajectory but as you look as you come through, 5,587 votes the president at one point had a lead of more than 600,000 votes in this state because they counted the election day totals first, people who voted on election day, now they're counting the mail-in ballots and getting closer to the finish line and the trajectory here is clear and convincing and when you pull it out and put it into context, pennsylvania moments ago, georgia just as the sun came up, two states the president was leading in yesterday, as they count the mail-in ballots, they have flipped. donald trump cannot win reelection without both pennsylvania and georgia. they are both blue and just to button it up joe biden also still leads, they're counting in arizona still, counting in nevada still. joe biden th

pennsylvania right now, donald trump is sitting at 116,000 votes. that's his lead right now. that's come down in the last few minutes because we just got updates from erie county. erie county you see is red here, trump is leading overall, but the update we got was mail ballots, absentee ballots from erie county. and biden actually made gains there because, again, biden's been doing very well with the absentee vote, the mail vote. they didn't count that on election day in a lot of places, they're counting it now. so biden just made gains in erie county. we just got votes from delaware county outside philadelphia, some of their absentee, big gain for biden there, we got another 10,000 votes out of philadelphia that were reported and that was another big gain for biden. you see he's knocked down trump's lead to 116,000. what's left to come in pennsylvania? the biggest single source of outstanding votes is philadelphia. there is probably a range here of possibilities. maybe from about 90,000 to 110,000 votes or so, it would appear, to come out of philadelphia still. biden is winning these votes overwhelmingly in philadelphia. if you look at a 116,000-vote lead statewide

erie, pennsylvania, who essentially submitted the affidavit. we have all taken a look at it. what did says is that he says the u.s. postal service bosses there in erie, pennsylvania concocted a plan on how to back date the ballots, which would make them essentially legal even though they were not legal. in both of those cases, however, brian, there do not seem to be enough votes involved to actually overturn those states. brian: yeah, i mean, you got thousands. have you got to get over 10,000 everywhere even though they're whittling it down in arizona it seems pretty big. we counts in georgia we will see. wisconsin, we will see. the other thing is about the arrogance of people saying the president can't get a recount or can't get into allegations. same people like hillary clinton who called him illegitimate. eric holder didn't show up for inaugural called him illegitimate. jerry nadler said he didn't win. did he better this time than last time and came out on top and they didn't want to acknowledge. now when he challenges after getting historic 72 million votes they are saying well he has no right to look into it. the g.o.p. is saying pretty much un

erie. calling from his van he decided it was time to share a secret with the police. >> bill rothstein was a 59-year-old lifelong erie, pennsylvania resident who said he would turn himself in but only after marjorie was apprehended. >> and marjorie diehl is at that resident now? >> yes. who is she to you, sir? >> i helped her do some stuff that i shouldn't do, but i never killed anybody. so i just want that known out straight. i'll give you guys my story later on. >> trooper lamont king who had witnessed brian wells' death in the parking lot was now dispatched to find that freezer in the rothstein home. >> heard somebody in the back room. marjorie was sitting on the bed, and she just started ranting and raving. >> as trooper king left other officers to guard her, he made his way to the home's garage. rothstein was a hoarder and the place was a stye. >> it's a real long garage and it's cluttered on both sides. there's just nothing but clutter. i don't see a freezer. but what i did see was a plastic tarp coming from the ceiling all the way down to the floor. and when i got to the tarp i pulled it, and there was the freezer. and at that time i opened the freezer and saw the body in there wrapped. at which time i closed the freezer, had everybody leave the garage and declared it a crime scene. >> the trooper went back inside the house to find marjorie. >> i just placed my hand on her shoulder and i told her i'm placing you under arrest. >> so, step back a second. in the span of less than a month, there were three bizarre incidents that baffled the people and authorities of eriea. first was the pizza bombing death, then the sudden death of the second pizza delivery man. and now there was an unexplained frozen body. marjorie diehl-armstrong told police she had nothing to do with the body in the freezer and didn't have much else to say. bill rothstein, on the other hand, was ready to talk, and what he had to say would make headlines. >> this is one of the biggest but clearly the strangest story i ever covered in all the years i've been in erie. >> paul wagner has covered local erie news since 1979. >> he was a very smart man. he spoke a couple foreign languages and he said he had a mensa-level iq. he was a substitute teacher in erie schools. >> he taught classes including industrial arts and sciences. he had advised the high school robotics team. he had come from a prominent family. his parents were from rola cola. now he was in a police interrogation room where he agreed to a videotaped interview. rothstein seemed calm and collected. his attorney was also ther

pennsylvania as well. >> reporter: we just heard john talk about erie county and that margin is getting tighter and tighter. i'm talking about president trump's margin there in erie county has 64,089 versus 63,087 for joe biden. erie was one of three counties that president trump flipped in 2016. this is a county he thought he didn't have to worry about this election. but then covid hit and he went back, campaigned there in erie in late october, and he even admitted to the crowd i didn't think i had to come back here honestly but then as he called the plague covid hit, and here i am i need your vote. but with this trend they have some outstanding ballots that they say they're going to be counting tonight. and what we are told, don king and wolf, is that they expect to be finished counting tonight, all mail-in ballots remaining and those ballots have been 4-1 for joe biden. >> interesting indeed, john, and as pamela points out those mail-in ballots are skewing big time in favor of the democrats. >> and as i said sometimes when you pull out the map you look at pennsylvania, if you don't understand you'd look at this and say, oh, the president's going to win this st

pennsylvania. is it exactly clear which way they will lean? more like mail ballots? or in-person ballots? we have a little sense of erie county. can you explain. >> yeah, we'll pull up eriek. for provisional ballots in erie county have been counted, 125 for president trump, 105 for joe biden. so, generally, splitting them about half and half. generally coming in line with the margin. erie is a battle ground county. it goes back and forth. when you look what's outstandings in provisionals, philadelphia has about 20%. based on what happened in erie and traditional ballots you're going to see a similar margin to what each county has and sets an expectation based on historical precedence and erie. so if erie is splitting 50/50 in range. philadelphia has a quarter out and they're splitting 80/20 at this point in time. are provisionals goes to change the game given where things stand? and where they're about to stand as more absentee ballots come in? no, instead, it's likely that the absentee ballots grow that lead, 10,000, 20,000, 30,000, and provisionals for joe biden too. >> grow it less, but grow it nevertheless. let's take a look at georgia. i think this actually tells a

erie county in pennsylvania, just south of buffalo, one of my favorite cities out there. >> all politics is local. >> but both biden and trump, they spent some time in erie campaigning. how do d. these two candidates do there? >> you look again, 83%. it's a nice call. we're waiting for more votes. traditionally a blue-collar place. the former governor tom ridge, this is where he lives. he was a congressman, then he was governor. he was for biden actually. a moderate republican for biden. 52 for trump. 47% for joe biden. if you round it up. if you go back in time to four years ago, again, we had the third-party candidates did better. that's one of the stories of this year. the third-party candidates did not do as well. the president won it by two points, three points if you round up there. back in here. it's about the same. maybe a little bit more of a trump lead. the question is where are the rest of those votes? here's what you have to do. remember, the reason we need patience to get through this process, everyone has to remember three different kinds of votes this year. people who voted by mail, they tended to be especially in pennsylvania disproportionately democratic. we know that from the data. people who >>> and the election day vote, this is one of the states you have to gi the president credit and the trump campaign for the late rallies. those are super spreaders, mean in turning out votes on election day, it worked for the president. he was behind just like in 2016. the trump rallies did bring turn out. the question is, this is a great point as we watch erieballots yet to be counted, or is it more of a mix. joe biden has to over perform that number, he has to overperform statewide across the commonwealth. we're going to respect the count in arizona where the president says he can come back. and it's getting interesting as it narrows. >> joe biden on the brink of 270 electoral votes, we're going to ask a close personal friend and political ally how the former vice president is feeling at this truly pivotal moment. we'll be right back. your experience matters. at university of phoenix, students with relevant life experience and eligible transfer credits save on average $11k and 1 year off their undergrad degree. see how much you can save. >>> welcome to election night in america, continued, i'm jake tapper. we are still waiting to hear on the election results in several key battleground states. i want to go right now to gary tuchman who's in atlanta where we are expecting a press conference at any moment. the vote in georgia is narrowing, a

pennsylvania. this doesn't want to go off. if it doesn't want to go that way, we'll do it this way. we go to erie county up here. we have more votes in erieday, the president was leading. you see in the math right now, 49-49, essentially, 50 if you round the former vice president up. in erie county, we have 206 votes. this is more competitive. but still joe biden adding to the lead, 206 to 138 here. you see again here, this is 59% for the former vice president. so 59% in the new county. you might say, there's a modest number of votes. the goal here is to take the 100,000 or so ballots out, take them off the board, get them counted, add them to this board. again, 59%, almost 10 points higher than how joe biden is running in the total county. and the difference is, the total county includes ballot cast on election day, the president did very well with those and actually was leading in erie county. and now you see him adding again. you add in the new votes, biden gains in chester, biden gains in delaware county, biden gains in erie county, you add them up, the total lead goes to 21,705 votes. this has been a methodical march as they've added