erik nielsen: not enough.umber a gdp produced in europe compared to in china, you use much less energy. more energy efficient in europe than the big emerging markets. for the same gdp of three and a half percent, a bigger is produced in europe, commodities will be less. as then what you are seeing in the markets right now. and the markets -- john meyer: at the markets are adjusting. we have seen that and the price. where do we bottom out? to the asianack crisis 15 years ago, it did not last very long. we are expecting to see china restimulated its markets and put itself back into a firmer growth in industrial production going forward. we have not seen it yet. we'll see them tinkering with lending rates and liberalizing that end of the market. and clearly supporting the stock market which is maybe 5%. those are important to moves. want to we are hearing is they want to continue with that strategy of restructuring industry and floating that into the marketplace. francine: what's your forecast for china gdp? it i