when erik schmidt took ove over--provided what he called adult supervision in a room that was still a very young company, he said one of the first rules he put in place was that he couldn't sleep at work. you had to go home. he had to force people to go home. >> i think that sometimes the concept of voluntarily--i think everyone has a different interpretation of that. people who are not working hard enough, and if you do take off there are challenges of people who don't have kids say they do not get the same benefits of those who do have kids, that they can leave work earlier, and having a child for a man is not as much of a penalty as it is for a woman. there are those cultural aspects i in the work environment, and we have to look at if we can take the time off and have a choice to start a family. ultimately at the end of the day any benefit that would allow them to work in the work environment. >> there is a workplace culture that, let's say, keeps you chained to your death desk even if you would like to go home. >> exactly. deadlines, pressures to meet deadlines. the work load is