and this is at erin brockovich's town, and this is what they said about the 16 billion dollars junk portfolion energy failures, it includes not only this, but solyndra, abound and fisker as well. >> solyndra, 570 million. >> estimated. stuart: and abound, a-123 and going through the list here liz: the point is, s&p and moody's-- or fitch, these companies are not solid. when china is debalancing, making its cheaper, boy, that's a red flag for solar powered companies. ashley: if you can't make a solar company work in the moja mojave desert. where are you going to. stuart:le 80 jobs permanent. >> except for construction. stuart: the government tries to pick winners, and they put our money into it and we lose. >> the rate payers, and the utilities subsidize solar power. stuart: the california companies have to buy, it's mandatory and expensive, everybody pays. isn't it great? >> here we go. stuart: coming up, donald trump, he says illegal immigrants get better care than our veterans. what do the veterans think about that? we bring one on the set for you, top of the hour and then there's facebook,