radical ideology, to discuss former member of the israeli special counteroperations terrorism unit erin cohenod to see you here, i'm going to start out what americans are worried about, what should our officials here in the u.s. be doing so that terror does not strike between now and christmas? >> well, there's no way to stop terrorism, we haven't been able to stop but can slow it down, slow it down by cranking up intel gathering, intelligence is the most critical layer of counterterror operations. you need actionable intelligence, once you've got the intelligence game hammered down, then you can deploy military force as special operations unit to go and neutralize and kill those terrorist leaders, that's what we want to do, kilter risk leaders or capture them alive so we can interrogate them and event future attacks from happening in the united states. i want to differentiate, certain terrorists you want to kill, mid-level, the leaders you want to capture so you can get more juice, squeeze them and prevent further attacks. the other thing we need to be looking at here, since the intelligence

cohen one more time. >> $60,000 earner, family of four is paying less than $500. we cut their taxes significantly. you can't go much further in the tax system. >> really, steve? >> well, it is true, erinok at the tax system today, it is highly progressive. we have one of the most highly progressive tax systems in the world. people make less than $40,000 aren't paying much income tax today. one of the things we do in this plan, erin, millions of additional americans will take their income tax liability to zero. if you are -- let's take a family that makes $85,000 a year. in a lot of places, a schoolteacher married to a financial person. that family is going to save $2500 to $3000 a year. that's significant. i would simply say this, we have talked about this on the show before. we do believe the business tax cut is central to this because we think that the system we have today is putting america in an uncompetitive situation. we have seen business zs leave the united states. if those businesses do come back and the factories come back, that is going to be good for workers. it will raise z wages because there will be more jobs. >> there's been a lot coming back, that's a separate convers