that is something that is from the early days of erisa. erisa is? guest: federal law governing pensions in the united states. host: thank you. guest: the younger workers, even if they want to save, sometimes not have the opportunity to save in their employer's pension plan because excluded.been host: from retired worker in florida, brenda, you are next, go ahead. yes, i retired at the age of around 52. later onrt disease and had breast cancer, i filed for disability, got it after working 35 years. the key was working 35 years. to start putting in an ira, where i worked, from the time i did work. i retired, i started etting social security, medicare and drawing on my ira 59 and a half. the key to retiring is to get stay out of debt and spend your money wisely -- there is one more sell a home if you later in life, say you have a second home or something, put money into a certificate, where you are at least earning 2.5%, on $100,000 that is $2500 times five year is almost $12,000. host: caller, thank you, good there. guest: yes, i would say, very good