. >> errin haines? >> yeah, rev.nk it's just to your point, you know, as he's writing the final chapter of his legacy, president trump is sticking with what he's done for the pandemic pretty much for the entire time. in terms of his presidency, this has really been an À la carte president. president trump being presidential means doing the things that interest him and not really focusing on the things that do not interest him. what we've seen this year is that this pandemic from both a public health perspective has not really interested this president in the waning days of his presidency he has chosen to focus instead on false claims of voter fraud, claiming to win an election that he actually lost and that we know that he lost as a matter of fact and not a matter of opinion. and, you know, focusing on things like pardons and executions in the final days of his presidency. and so with that being the case, what you have is americans looking ahead to the incoming president. if president trump is not going to be respons

amna: and joining us now i want to welcome to the conversation errin haines, editor at large for the 19th news. errin, welcome back to the show. we're talking about this moment in time where you have an impeachment trial for the previous president moving forward at the same time the biden administration is trying to get its agenda off the ground. there's a bit of a split screen. a bit of a jarring moment happening in u.s. politics right now. how are you processing those two truths right now? errin: well, i think that it speaks to the divided reality that we are in as a country, as the new administration takes office and attempts to govern. we obviously have already seen three very dramatic wednesdays in the first three wednesdays of this year. and, you know, we don't know what's going to happen next wednesday. that's just how uncertain the times are that we now find ourselves. but what i wrote on inauguration day, really spoke to the idea of even as, you know, the president and vice president are calling for unity and healing in this country, you know, we are still very much in what j

let's bring in the editor at large for "the 19th" and msnbc contributor errin haines. d errin, i know you're a georgian, you're connected to georgia, and that's normally what we talk about, but this has exploded into something much more significant. this is now 11 senators who have joined josh hawley and are making stuff up to satisfy a conspiracy theory-laden, qanon-believing, otherwise motivated base of voters. and in the midst of all this, the only voice that democrats have in this right now is the election in georgia. and i don't mean democrats with a capital "d." i mean people who believe in democracy. >> well, first of all, happy new year to you, ali, and thank you so much for having me. >> thank you. >> on the first sunday of the new year. listen, the stakes are absolutely higher, and all eyes are focused on georgia for, you know, the future of control of the senate. and you're right about democracy really hanging in the balance here. and what's interesting to really think about is, you know, president donald trump came into politics, at least into our recent foc

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. >> joining me now, errin haines, an msnbc contributor and back with us, ruth marcus and charles blows still part of the administration was really interesting. let's listen to something else he had to say to chris wallace comparing what the president was impeached over the first go round. >>. >> you were a top member of the administration when the president defended the white supremacists at charlottesville. you were a top member of the administration, not chief of staff, when the trump administration separated parents coming across the border from their children. why not resign over those? >> the -- the kids in cages thing, which a lot had of folks gave a lot of attention to, and we seem to have forgotten, including you, chris, that many pictures of the kids in cages were taken during the obama administration. they were obama cages. >> nothing -- nothing like with the policy under donald trump. >> chris, these are policy differences, okay? these are things that you think the country should look one way, we think it should look another. >> okay, obviously, that was not the clip i was