the earnest, polyestered host make brokaw seem like errol flin, the classical music played during thebreaks reminds you. >> i have never had a chance to talk to you about this? >> what got you there? >> i turned on c-span, my job was to comment on the media in a monthly fashion for mirabella magazine. right. a now dead and gone magazine. i turned on one channel which did not resem bell others. that was c-span. it fascinated me. >> once we did. we saw it in some sense they are both much less dramatic than we might imagine and some what -- how emtit chambers of congress really are. i didn't bring this up to ask you -- it's always fun to hear somebody feedback what you were seeing. >> you war watching from livingston at the time? >> what's happened since 1992? . >> i really was wondering what you think has happened since 1992 to the american audience. >> it has grown progressively less serious, less nourishing intellectually. it has grown more super initially. if you are some what nor alice tick straight down, i never thought i would be watching network news and see 75% of them are taken