. >>> errol lewis, political commentator and anchor for spectrum news, and joey jackson, legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, joining us. good morning. and joey, let me start with you. what could these preparations even in their infancy look like? >> let me say this, victor -- good morning to you. you know, if i'm advising the president, there would be no preparations because my client wouldn't go anywhere near the special counsel. it's a bad move in general. my preparation of him would say, mr. president, stay far away. this is a president who's repeatedly puffing, repeatedly -- i don't know, call it what you will, telling tall tales, fraud, misrepresentation, whatever you say. he's a guy who's known, i'm trying to be as objective as i could, believe it or not, in saying that, but not to tell the truth. you can sit and prep your client all day and night about the special counsel and russia and contacts and who was involved and where were you and who did you speak to, and who if any did you meet -- he's not a disciplined person. he goes off the rails. the other day he threw a s

. >>> joining us, errol lewis, political commentator and anchor for spectrum news.rning to you. let's talk about the recordings between michael cohen and keith davidson. as caitlyn said there, this is the man who i guess some would say coincidentally both represented karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. the expectation is that these will be valuable to the investigators. how do you see -- where do you see the value? >> some of the value lies in whether or not the recordings were legal, depending on the state we're talking about, you're not supposed to record these issues. that's a slide issue in some ways. for the prosecutors, it can help establish whether or not the facts or the timeline that they've sort of created by other means can be corroborated with hard evidence. when michael cohen is talking with this particular attorney or anybody else about what he's doing and why he's doing it and on whose behalf, he's providing sort of a timeline, giving you breadcrumbs. letting you know potentially what the president knew or didn't know, what he may be acting on behalf o

let's bring in errol lewis and john avlon. border crossings for the month of march up 37%. here are the incomes. they're interesting. look specifically at what has happened in march through the years. you can see in 2017 there was an outlier year, which was quite low. 16,000. 2018, it goes up to 50,000 border crossings. the president has a predicate for sending troops to the border. he can just look at these numbers. he can reveal these. that may not have been his motivation. but other presidents have done this. so how significant? >> i think it's is significant politically more so than operationally. i don't think we're going to look at the next round of numbers and see it drop down to 16, 14, 13, or anything ike that. and it's not intended to. this is what i would call security theater. it's akin to what you see at the airports. they make you take off your shoes, hop on one foot, to make you feel some effort is being made to secure the nation. we know from the experts that's not what is going on at all. this is not a matter of if there is a wall there, if there are troops

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. >>> joining us now, errol lewis, cnn political commentator and anchor for spectrum news, and walter schwab, cnn contributor and former director of the office was government ethics. good morning to you. errol, let's start with you. your assessment of where natalia veselnitskaya is coming out with this assertion now that she is an informant. >> look, a news organization basically had her dead to rights. the dossier organization that got its hands on emails led by insidesors who are very much in an opposition stance to the putin regime, they -- they had the emails, they had the information, they passed it on to nbc news. nbc news confronted her with the emails. so it's fascinating to watch her on camera there. sort of -- kind of size up the situation and say, well, yeah, you know, you got me. i am an informant. the president keeps talking in all caps about how this is a witch hunt, well, i think we have a witch here. >> a house democrat says that of course she was an informant when she walked into the room at trump tower in june of 2016 for that meeting. i want you to listen to what he