in the context, erroll has in the way only erroll can as a filmmaker of decades of bipartisan deterrents-based policy. what donald trump did wouldn't have been possible were it not for democratic administrations treating immigration as a deterrents policy, something to punish and harm people from coming to the united states to do and that's how we ended up with the separation policy, where we are today. there are a lot more questions to ask which is what erroll does magnificently. >> jacob, it might have been a slippery slope from one administration to another. >> i'm going to tell everybody go to your screen right now, there is a qr code, you can watch the documentary and join me and jacob and erroll for a conversation about the film tonight. we're going to get into more of the slippery slope, et cetera. tickets can be bought here, there are also other showings at new york's ifc center through october 10th. that will do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ >>> hi, everyone. happy friday. it's 4:00 in new york. 32 days to go before election day in america and this i

. >> errol, louis errol, good morning to you we all know how critical michigan is. it is we're seeing such a tight race then race there. and as such, we're seeing the candidates, both harris and trump tailoring their messages targeting specific pockets of voters. >> a less listen to harris and trump's contrasting messages. >> when it came to targeting blue collar workers. listen the same empty promises to the people of michigan that he did before hoping hoping you will forget how he let you down the last time. >> i mean, to be very candid with you even including mike pence vice presidents are not critical of their presidents. i think that really actually, in terms of the tradition of it and also just going forward, it does not make for a productive and important relationship that was the wrong soundbite at the end there what we were supposed to hear after harris was trump basically saying that so many of the auto workers support for him because he's going to bring back some auto jobs it was just a few days ago, errol, as you know, that trump was saying and insulting

erroll, it is an honor most of all to have you on my show today. >> i, too, am honored. >> i want to play the trailer for the film. let's take a watch. >> separation from your parents is a profoundly traumatizing event, but systematic separation of children from parents officially it wasn't happening, but it was happening. ♪♪ >> you should tell me how you got involved in all of this. >> define "all of this." ♪♪ >> their version of stopping people interest coming into the country was taking children away from their parents so that they wouldn't come. >> our field staff started to notice very young kids, tender age, anyone below five. that's kind of unusual, right? >> what your intolerance did was turn their helpers into their worst nightmare. ♪♪ >> a few thought the child was in danger that's the only circumstance to which you would separate? >> i can't imagine doing anything otherwise. >> the government thought that showing the world separations through the eyes of people like me, they would keep the set of people attempting to come from coming. >>

what is important to underscore and what errol underscores in the film is that he hasn't said whethernot disavowed the policy that was called by a george w. bush appointed judge stopped the policy, as he readily pointed out in the last segment, one of the most shameful chapters in the history of our country. and as you were saying, i wrote the book because when we were covering this altogether, i didn't understand how the u.s. government could do this. and errol morris and i share some of the same concerns to this day, which i think is why he wanted to turn this into a film. and he does it in the most extraordinarily beautiful, i think it's fair to say, way, in a way that only errol morris can. >> congratulations and thank you for being here. this film, spending a lot of time with people who worked at dhs and hhs and the office of refugee resettlement, who took issue with this policy and pushed back. when you look at who trump surrounds himself with now, is there a likelihood that those kinds of -- i mean, cross government, were going to see people who push back or are likely to push

errol louis, let me let me start with you. hear first of all the idea that this is just our political divisions on display as one that i i reject as someone who was there that day, there was a lot a lot more to it. why? is this question so relevant in a vice presidential debate just speaks to what we saw from our then vice president, mike pence, who stood in the way of donald trump when donald trump tried to get him to overturn the election. and that's why its an issue that jd vance doesn't seem to be answering this question shan, what do you see here and why do you think vance is doing what he's doing it's a real question. >> we're going to have an election in 34 days. and then after that, we have to ensure that the results of that election respected and next january 6 will have the same issue all over again. i don't know january 20 will hopefully we'll have a peaceful transition of power the jd vance has to do what every true trump follower has to do, which is by his claim that somehow he won the election and it's absurd, an

which film director errol morris detailed in heart wrenching detail provided by a former federal officialee resettlement. in his knew documentary "separated" based on nbc correspondent jacob soboroff's book of the same name. >> once you've exhausted all the ordinary things the law permits, then all that's left for those people for whom anything is possible is to do something extraordinary in its cruelty. and that's what happened here. >> homan, who said he didn't give an s word about the nearly 5,000 children separated from their parents by the trump administration. warned that if trump comes back in january, quote, they ain't seen s.h.i.t. yet. wait until 2025. more than 1,000 of those children he separated remain orphans to this day. and here's what's different, there would be nobody to stop trump and homan next time because they will have replaced the entire federal goth with people willing to break or bend the law for trump. nbc's jacob soboroff is the author of the book "separated" and executive producer oeft documentary. jacob, my friend, it's so good to see you. >> thanks, joy. whe

errol louis as always. thank you so much for being here with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you still ahead. >> iran says it does not seek war with israel, but vows, quote, inappropriate response this is after both countries have volleyed missiles back and forth, we're gonna have the latest in that conflict next and also soon we are watching this. president trump will take the stage and headline a rally at madison square garden you're in the cnn newsroom for cnn i had no idea. i was still paying for it's like wi-fi until i finally check my credit card statement 14 months at $600 later. that's why i created rocket money, an app that shows you all your subscriptions in one place, see something you no longer want. you can cancel it straight from him yeah. download rocket money today. >> i still love to serve snowboard and of course, skate. so i take kuno magnesium to support my muscle and bone health kuno is high absorption magnesium glycine. it helps me you get the full benefits of magnesium kunal, the brand i trust here we go. >> consumer cellular u

errol louis, cnn political commentator and host of the big deal with arrows louis on spectrum news, errol. good morning to you. and let's pick off pickup where eva left off there this meeting that happened between vice president harris and some arab american leaders there in michigan. of course, so many are disappointed in the administration's support for israel and the execution of the war with hamas us this group emgage they asked her to show distance between how president biden is executing the war and what she would do as president. that's not going to happen, is we should expect any departure from the biden administration good morning, victor. that's exactly right. when it comes to the broad strokes of foreign policy in the middle east, she's not going in a radically different direction. in fact, that direction is supported by something like 70% of the american public, which is something resembling slow progress towards a two-state solution. unwavering support for israel while understanding that there have got to be some limits on the military activities so that it doesn't turn into

a brought it all back errol is is it purely political matter he's called this news conference for 10:00, one assumes in a normal campaign and i know that maybe a stretch here, there would be some plan to address this. >> yes maybe the strategically you want to be involved in every news cycle, right? >> because only seven days left. so you don't want the day to go by without being somewhere on the screen. so that's the first reason that he's doing this, but we also know from years of experience, almost a decade now of experience with donald trump is that the way he puts out a fire five alarm fire is to start another fire. so i wouldn't be at all surprised if he used this opportunity this morning to say something else that's outrageous and hope that we'll talk about that and maybe move on from what happened over the weekend. >> just one final point hearing and alayna played at four the donald trump saying, i'm the opposite of a nazi when you hear that out loud, there i can't it's not it's not a message you plan to make the last week. >> it's not a great closing message the political sci

errol morris the oscar winning film maker read the book.d there were still more questions to ask and to be answered. particularly at this moment as we consider the direction of immigration policy, not just for the next four years but the next generation. so we teamed up to make this movie with nbc news studios to make this an issue that no candidate, no political party can afford to avoid talking about. >> you know, jacob, this film gives an inside look at that policy through interviews with members of trump's administration. what insights could anyone share with you about how anybody thought there was decency to what was going on to something that's been called government-sanctioned child abuse. >> that's right. that was the american academy of pediatrics that said that. positions for human rights which won a nobel peace prize said this met the united nations definition of torture. i don't think even people on the inside of the trump administration wouldn't say this was an attempt at decency. they knew what they were doing. what you see th

both jacob and errol join us now. jacob also serves as executive producer on the project. long time. tell us why this film is so important. >> don't take my word to it. listen to what the george w. bush appointed judge said who stopped this policy. he said it was one of the most shameful chapters in the history of our country. 5500 kids were deliberately separated from their parents for no other reason than to harm them, scare them. it's part of a pattern in the united states that is bipartisan that revolves around deterrence and scaring people from coming here by hurting them. and most profoundly, with the famous example of the trump family separation policy. there are still questions about why this happened, how it could have happened, how the nation let it happen. that's why errol and i decided to get together and make what errodone, a spectacularly beautiful film that only errol morris can make. >> you just mentioned it was part of a pattern of deterrence that's happened for two decades now. what is the alternative to that? >> the alternative is the system as the biden

chavez says in a meeting in atlanta in caracas we need to establish it and i had to get credit to errol sheen who's sitting right there a very keen researcher is done a lot of work this. and chavez says company arrow, we need to establish it and eric mann is one of the organizers in atlanta. this was years before trevone martin came across george zimmerman on that fateful day. >> without two individuals there is no eric mann and no aoc and no blm and those individuals we talk about at the moment. here in america you examine them closely. why is a treat the person who changes modern marxism and where we are today? explainan that. >> let me do this and 30 seconds. somebody wrote and i agree entirely before the russian revolution marxism was going through itsth stage from the 1950s so 17 to 24 and after that it's the maoists stage and he died in 76. i truly believe we are in that age and all the luminaries and architects of critical race theory not all of them but the key once site until henao who is influential in the work of butler who is the gender part of this. antonioam is the one, th

sessions with reagan, his idea of a casual conversation was telling a story about playing a trick on errol flynn and the movie santa fe trail. for the role he played in brother route or may be telling the story about jon wayne and bob hope. that was his idea of a bull session. now, on the other hand with president nixon we would also have deep policy discussions on foreign policy. a document willy brandt or winston churchill, we talk about economic issues. and deep profound issues of statesbu. but then his idea of a bull session okay have a casual conversation is, telling great political stories about good old charlie halligan indiana or his buddy george mckinnon's advice running like you are a million votes behind you could win by one vote. he never got tired of talking about politics or he would call me on new year's eve i want to know the political scene and california's like. that's nixon's idea of a casual conversation. they're interesting in different ways.th but, there is an interesting point for both of them. an interesting point in history in this regard as well. richard nixon kne

errol calls them good bureaucrats and bad bureaucrats.ople inside the health and human services who did everything they could, they warned everybody that they could that this policy was coming and it was happening and some of the same people donald trump is saner going to come back and run his department of homeland security, how there is immigration enforcement apparatus that you have people like scott lloyd inside who is the director of o rr, a political appointee constantly in touch with stephen miller as you see in the film basically doing the bidding of the administration and so we got here because of bipartisan, democratic and republican deterrence-based immigration policies. it is why donald trump was able to like that in institute family separation policy that tore apart 5500 children from their parents. the question is where do we go from here and of course, we know what donald trump wants to do. he wants to institute the greatest mass deportation program in the history of art country which is family separation by another name. t

errol, jacob has been reporting from the border since 2014.or us since 2018 about the child separation policy. we know he wrote the book. it hasn't just been his work, it has been his life's passion for the past six years. why did you decide to take on this project truthfully at a time when so many people are not thinking about this issue anymore? >> i liked the book and i like jacob. and it was completely clear that this was an important story and in needed more reporting, not less reporting and i was honored and very glad to be part of it. >> jacob, when you hear -- >> the best i can do. rhetoric, when you look at the political climate and you see how donald trump, right there, the founder of the child separation policy, how well he polls on immigration and even how many democrats have pushed back and masaying i am not happ with what is happening in my city, what do you make of where things are headed? did we forget where we were in. >> no, president clinton put in the first wave, the film documented this specifically and beautifully. such a

casual conversations, his idea of a casual conversation would telling a story about playing trick on errol flynn in the movie santa fe trail or about an officer berating him in boot camp for? the role he played in brother rat or maybe telling a story about john wayne or bob hope. that was his idea of bull session. now, on the other hand, with president nixon, we also have deep policy discussion on foreign policy. he you know, where he'd talk about willy brandt or indira gandhi or winston churchill. and we talk about economic issues and deep, profound issues of of state. but then his of a bull session or casual conversation would be telling great political stories, maybe about good old charlie halleck in indiana or his buddy friend george mckinnon's advice running. you're a million votes behind and you could win by one vote. and he never got tired of talking about politics. he or he'd call me on year's eve, and he he'd want to know what the political scene in california was like. so that was nixon's idea of of casual conversation and regarding their communiques and styles. i think it's both

casual conversations, his idea of a casual conversation would telling a story about playing trick on errol flynn in the movie santa fe trail or about an officer berating him in boot camp for? the role he played in brother rat or maybe telling a story about john wayne or bob hope. that was his idea of bull session. now, on the other hand, with president nixon, we also have deep policy discussion on foreign policy. he you know, where he'd talk about willy brandt or indira gandhi or winston churchill. and we talk about economic issues and deep, profound issues of of state. but then his of a bull session or casual conversation would be telling great political stories, maybe about good old charlie halleck in indiana or his buddy friend george mckinnon's advice running. you're a million votes behind and you could win by one vote. and he never got tired of talking about politics. he or he'd call me on year's eve, and he he'd want to know what the political scene in california was like. so that was nixon's idea of of casual conversation and regarding their communiques and styles. i think it's both

york's ifc center starring this friday where you can join me and jacob and oscar winning film maker, errolnversation about the film ahead of the election. >>> all right, we've got some breaking news we're going to get to now. jack smith election interference case against donald trump, the judge, tanya chutkan, just unsealed the special counsel's 165-page redacted motion on presidential immunity. joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. it is 165 pages, we have had it for all of, i think, four minutes. we obviously haven't been able to go through all of it. still, this was what we thought would be sort of a mini trial. here is the evidence we have against donald trump in regards to what happened in 2020. is there anything so far that is jumping out to you now that we didn't know about before today? >> well, katy, one of the things that i would just point out is that we obviously know who the government thinks donald trump's most important coconspirators are. in this indictment, there is a description of six coconspirators, the majority of whom have been definitively identified

and that's why there are -- you know that's why the fill s so important what errol has done to answer questions what the future holds as much as in the past. including what the biden administration has promised but has not done which is have the whole sale radical departure based on deterrence and cruelty. >>> that's all the time for this weekend. thanks for spending part of it with us. tune in tomorrow for new week of morning joe as we inch closer to one of the most consequential presidential elections of our lifetimes. until then, enjoy the rest of your sunday. til then, enjoy th your sunday. >>> good morning. sit sunday, october -- it is sunday, october 6th. i'm alicia menendez with symone sanders-townsend and michael steele. we have fresh details on the harris' campaign sprint to the fineish line as donald trump focuses on lies and retribution. >>> talk with a senate candidate in florida and in nebraska aiming to upset republicans incumbents with in balance of power at fake. >>> plus, tomorrow marks one year since the october 7th terror attack on israel. what is ahead for the regi

errol caused some good bureaucrats and bad bureaucrats, you have got jonathan white and jaelyn insidee office of refugee resettlement, they want everybody that they could that this policy was coming and it was happening. anton holman, some of the same people that donald trump is saying are going to come back and run is homeland security, their immigration apparatus, then you have people like scott light inside, the director, a political appointee, constantly in touch with stephen miller, who you will see in the film, but basically doing the bidding of the administration. so, look, we got here because of bipartisan, democratic and republican immigration policies, it's why donald trump was able to like that institute of family separation policy that tore apart 5500 children from their families, deliberately. so, the question is where do we go from here? and of course, we know what donald trump wants to do, he wants to institute the greatest mass deportation program in our country, which is family separation by another name. the democrats also talk about another conservative turned back

still ahead, she broke the hearts of errol flynn, howard hughes and james stewart's. and on this day in the bay, she visited san francisco. >> we're taking a look ba san francisco is in crisis and we need real experienced leadership. we need mark farrell. our interim mayor who got things done. who showed we can clear tent encampments, fight crime, and address the drug crisis. who will make the tough choices for our city's future. "i'm mark farrell. i'm running for mayor because san francisco deserves better." "i'm ready to deliver that change on day one." mark farrell. a proven leader with the experience we need. >> we're taking a look back into our archives afternoon as iconic hollywood star arrived in the bay area. 57 years ago today, olivia de havilland who rose to fame after starring in gone with the wind caught up with bay area reporters and papara zi about her early work. she tells kron 4 about rewatching summer for films that debuted in the 30's decades later, one particular she said, really stood the test of time and took on a whole new meaning in the 1960's.

errol: this is one of them.e are joined tonight by the two major candidates, kiersten gillibrand has been new york's senator since 2009. the republican non--- candidate -- susan: each candidate will have 60 seconds to respond to questions and will be given the opportunity to respond if directly addressed by their opponent. we will also have a cross-examination round were each candidate will be able to ask his or her opponent a question and there will be a lightning round where the answers have to be yes or no or a short response. >> you can watch this debate on the spectrum news app and our website without a pay wall. we begin with opening statements, order determined by a random drawing. kirsten gillibrand will go first. sen. gillibrand: thank you, alvin e. my job is to help people over politics. it's way across the aisle on a bipartisan basis to get commonsense solutions done and i think i've been effective. i've worked on public safety, i wrote and passed a bill to ban gun trafficking, hitting weapons off the

and that's why there are -- you know that's why the fill s so important what errol has done to answer but has not done which is have the whole sale radical departure based on deterrence and cruelty. >>> that's all the time for this weekend. thanks for spending part of it with us. tune in tomorrow for new week of morning joe as we inch closer to one of the most consequential presidential elections of our lifetimes. until then, enjoy the rest of your sunday. til then, enjoy th your sunday.

errol flynn used to do that. oranges put vodka and oranges. all right. higher elevations. it is just. there's 80 to almost 90 on the temps here. oakland hills. that's right above the claremont. the caldecott 87, boulder creek, santa cruz mountains, 88. that is extremely warm air. there's absolutely no breeze now over by the coast, though. and in the city i am seeing some low 60s for some yet, so there could be a pretty big spread on the coast. so 76 to 88 if a sea breeze kicks in and that's all off. there's a slight west wind in the city to ten now. it just depends on where you are in the city. again, i've seen about 61 to about 76 on the temps in san francisco alone. most locations have a north or northeast breeze, 5060s and 70s on the temps here. it will not take long for some inland areas to jump. novato is now nine degrees warmer than yesterday at this time. generally about 2 to 4 or 5 or 6 santa rosa's. 637 bookends truckee and south lake tahoe. mammoth 3830s for alturas, winnemucca and even ely. so some cold air up in the mountains. not here. the lows do get kind of

but what i love about it is every day, every day i have errol musk, who's elon musk's father on, and elon and so on. and so forth. and he's a fascinating character. and gb news have been running a series of articles on their brilliant website as a result of that as well, working with your digital team. so it's working across all that sort of things. but in addition, it's looking at the new forms of entertainment. so we did the very first holograms, for example, and i did something on hamleys window display where you had sort of magical hands floating in mid—air using holograms. so it's the new way of immersive technology and immersive entertainment on that sort of basis. >> it's fascinating, isn't it, really? it really is fascinating . really? it really is fascinating. so you're going to japan very shortly. you've got a big project there , launching some project there, launching some stuff of your own. what's been the most, in your view, your biggest moment, the most, in your view, your biggest moment , the biggest or biggest moment, the biggest or your most memorable moment? >> i ap