host: ervin on our line for democrats. caller: my name is ervin. i've been a democrat for 20 years. there've been a lot of changes in the government. especially the leader, donald trump, i'm not super fond of. for example, the desire for donald trump 2 -- host: in california on our line for independents. good morning, william dash or rodney, i'm sorry. caller: rodney, i'm retired. i've been working with the federal government for now over 40 years. i see that dr. schatz is a knowledgeable person in relation to budget. my question is, i look at things from a national defense perspectives, so if you look at the oversight and get accountability part, how do you measure from that angle? i know you are not a federal, pentagon type person, but you are not accounting for. that element. guest: we are. 25% of savings came from the department of defense. we will have them i think on monday, another blog post with the joint site, which we have been writing for many years, a massive program that unfortunately is not working as intended. so, believe me, we are interested in wasteful spending acr