you combine their esence at the u.n. with negotiations. how does that work? >> it works in a number of differenways because this is really for the palestinians so let me be a little bit company about how this all works out they made it clear they're going to launch for membership. >> charlie: at the general council and not at the general assembly. >> that's what they said. they've got the option of dpoarg -- going to the general assembly. whatever happens at the u.n. let's take that one step if you like, what is important is to launch a negotiation so tha we have aituation where the palestinians and israelis are trying to resolve these issues and the onl way you will resolve them on the ground. and the anxiety of people, i've justome back from my 71st visit there. i'm there the wle time. it's on the ground you need change. and if you don't get the change on the ground, then you can pass any number of resolutions but you wouldn't get peace. so i'm not, as i say, i'm the reason why the palestinian are here at the u.n. i understand they're going to launch this a