on esi metco, i can't say more than we're looking at this, we're asking questions, we're collecting information, and we are very aware of the sort of rural independent pharmacists, my mother-in-law was a pharmacist. i have met with a number of groups on both sides of the issue. >> i can't say anything more than to reiterate or more that my grandfather was a farmer. >> on the privacy issue, do you have evidence to show or to dmn strait that the public is being harmed now if we don't do anything. certainly in the cases we brought. even if it's very hard to quantify. when you talk about other cases involving facebook or google where they will boil down and protect people's information and keep it private. it's hard to quantity fi. but there are real harms. as i view our policy work. it's about best practices. and a lot of companies wants to be engaged in best practices. we work with the stake holders. so, for example, one company that participated in all of our workshops was wal-mart. because they believe it's really important to have good privacy practices. it ensures more trust in the interne in