everything about esoal was really bad. guess i was able to take the abuse myself, but seeing other people having to take it, as well, i just couldn't deal with that. and that was kind of the epitome of all the emotional abuse coming to the surface as well. that just really opened my eyes to what was happening. >> i remember, we got to sleep on the pavement for like an hour, and they would wake you up and make you go jump in the lake or wake you up and make you get in a pool filled with ice-cold water. >> everyone was really cold and we were all wet and stuff and we were shivering to the point where our teeth were chattering. and it was like the introduction where dave would get up and it was the first time we had seen him during esoal and everything. and i remember he said, stop shivering. you sound disgusting. and it's, like, dark and it's just a scary environment. >> okay. you're going to have to eat some of this. >> we're going to keep them moving. as soon as your team is done -- >> don't do it or you'll have just as mu