>> i think if a company wants to do it, fine, but overall, look, if you notice esols wwagen, there's many the higher staff that are not part of this, they're going to have to answer the phone at 3 a.m. as they say. and i'm okay on a case by case basis, overall. you're working for a company and care about the company and the company naine c na n move hopofs and you kainp that phone on, make sure they can get a hold of you. t s> now w knre tase,ing. t s> i tried to reach you three times today, toby and you're edot-- t s> not for the show. >> gary b? >> he was at the bar. >> well, brenda, along with toby' point we live fortunately or unfortunately in a 24/7 society and to drill down a little bit on this, t s you cit sunion play to get management not to send e-map>s out. you know why? they want today prevent worker burnout. if they are he' unionized employains and betting most are factory workers, i've worked in a unionized factory, brenda. i was bored and maybe physically tired at the end of the day, i was not burned out and certainly, and that's-- m khat do you think they're getting. o