now obama had deemed it impossible, this will have a shorter half-life than we think, essprnlly if -- especially if they can get the problem fixed with healthcare. the combination of the healthcare website and the things that are attached to that, the systemic issues around the healthcare system, if those things get fixed in a relatively timely way, i think he can still recover. if they can't, he'll be done, because his credibility now is so much at stake. >> i think doing healthcare in a partisan way is going to go down in history as somewhat an error and maybe a gigantic error. they sugar coated that there's going to be losers under this reform. >> there has to be. >> and as more people see their healthcare change or their premiums go up or the overall cost in terms of how their healthcare spending goes, i think he's going to face a nitpicking by his opponents that it's going to be very difficult to make this seem in the short-term like a winner of the country. >> you guys will end here. does it leech into 2016, so hilary clinton leaves the administration at the end of the first ter