estelle brachlianoff says waste management has become fashionable. as the effects of climate change become more extreme and governments and companies round up efforts to curb the pollution. thank you so much for joining us on leaders with laqua. if somebody met you on the street and they say, what do you do for a living, how would you describe your job? estelle: good question. i would say i'm here to transform industries and cities so that they produce less carbon, consume less water and consume less materials. to have the plan to be greener. that's what i do for a living. francine: it's a big job and you work with water, energy and waste. how different are they to manage. estelle: another way of saying it is the market. its decarbonization, of course, but decontamination or de-pollution if you want. we are moving pollutants so i can protect your health, mine and everybody else's, same with recycling and the economy. that's the market. it's a huge 1, 2 .5 trillion euros every year. at its fast growing and faster every day. in a way, you can see it bo