in 2007, estonia removed a statue, a soviet era statute and it caused turmoil between estonia and russia and lo and behold if it didn't become a lot of cyberattacks on mr. linea shutting down their telephone networks commissioning down their banking systems, websites and so on. government services and so on. it was never proven of his russia doing it, but the conclusion is that the very least of his russian hackers. in the end, nato, who is very active in helping estonia understand this, nato step dad and ultimately there's a cyberdefense center both selection. estonia is the most connected country in europe. they are a leader in the government. that's when of the reasons why estonia is super interesting. i don't know how much my time -- am i good? >> you are good. >> i'm going to spend a couple minor on other ones. okay, so there's lots of incidents in my side of e-mail, targeted attacks to u.s. satellites. it looks like someone from china. i'm not saying chinese government, but someone through china for mr. cheney servers appear to have been doing the proof of concept. they were traine

been used, as my co-panelist mentioned, as a prelude, the shock troops before the russians invaded estonia and georgia. this is a bipartisan issue. you have senator lieberman saying its cyberwar and the cyberthreat is a clear and present danger. the same with senator collins. senator barbara, you can go down the list. they will all tell you they, too, are scared about the threat. mike mcconnell before his director of national intelligence warned that if instead of laying aircraft into buildings in new york -- flying aircraft into buildings in new york, the terrorists had directed a cyber attack at the largest banks in new york, the economic impact would have been 10 times worse than 9/11 actually was. this is not a theoretical threat. those of you who have had trouble accessing your banks, senator lieberman has pointed to the iranians as retaliating against the u.s. banks for the stuxnet attack that i will talk about momentarily. and our power grid. what is the risk? well, one is that terrorists want to break into our power grid. those of you that have lived a few days without power, as ma

precisely because this belt of countries from estonia to bull gary are right next door to russia.ontinue to be a factor in europe's evolution. if you look at russia, it's half the longitudes of the world but it's got less people than ban ga desh. it's been invaded by poles, electricity yanians, swedes. so russia still requires buffer zones in eastern europe and the caucuses. vladimir putin is not the totalitarian eastern giant the western union paints him as. his ne-yo imperialism is a function of his jeep geographical insecurity. poland, here in blue, may emerge as the real pivot state because, again, there's geography. poland has a lot of shale gas underground. poland may emerge as an energy giant in the 21st century which will give it leverage against germany and russia. >> let's move to the indian sub continent whoochlt i is afghanistan proving so difficult to deal with? why is the u.s. a decade into the war unable to go on patrol with afghans? >> one of the reasons is geographical. if you look at this relief map here, the border between afgh afghanistan and pakistan is very a

in 2007 in estonia during a two week. , i do not know if you'll remember a massive cyber attack that resulted in not just infrastructure being taken down such as military or something uniquely defense, but even more severely, atms, gas pumping equipment, things that really impacted everyday people. i think when you saw that, even though it was five years ago and you see it now on a greater magnitude, it really illustrates the increasing importance that is needed on this issue. host: president obama took to the pages of "the wall street journal" on the threat he sees from cyber attacks. here is a story from a few days ago. what is the government impose a concerned about cyber? guest: there is not a singular concern. i think everybody is concerned about what happens with 9/11 happening in a digital space. there is no real way to forecast how severe the damage or how widespread the damage. i would say the number one concern is, we need to ensure that our infrastructure and our critical resources are shored up against the potential for a digital 9/11. host: if you would like to talk to j

in the global financial crisis with the we need, latvia and estonia carried out incredible reforms coming in today they have good economic growth rates. i always sit with my colleagues, who was a social democrat you need to talk to him about the greek reform program. it's with regards to the new member states who have made a lot of sacrifices and said it very clearly to us what is necessary or not. and then once again to points don't get worked up. the european policy is in parliament that's wonderful. we don't always agree. you don't know the social democrats. he doesn't know them when they are interacting in a city the debt redemption fund apart from the fact that we don't have a european legal basis we need to have the change but it doesn't help us in the current situation. none of the countries with the great indefinite have a chance to pay back their debt these countries must try to get on their high deficits and if you say there is no to pack if we don't agree to the fund, that isn't a good method if you want to try to find a compromise but i have noted it. i agree the u.k. is alway