like estonia are you confident that that would be the reality?i'm confident and i'm - about n.a.t.o. of a whole. i was there at the headquarters last friday. i'm confident in the united states i hope in vladimir putin understands that one reason for the air policing the manoeuvres about everything else is to try to underscore to mr vladimir putin that we are paying attention, and if indeed he were to miscalculate it would be the worst miscalculation of his life. i have no doubt whatsoever. after all if n.a.t.o. fails to stand up to what it's committed to, it will be giving up being an alliance. in its entire history, n.a.t.o. never failed to do what it said to do. >> we have seen differences in relation to russia between the u.s. and western european countries that may have energy links, that mean russia would antagoize them further. do you feel it could be a possibility of the u.s. to bear the brunt of any potential fight with russia. >> i don't think so at all. there are differences of view about what to do how much sanctions, what to do whethe

. >> i was recently in estonia and i really didn't know that much about stalin. i was stunned. or make him he was like another hitler in the way that he would absolutely plan how to hurt and unmercifully kill people, and that's step number one. step number two did roosevelt know this part of stalin speak with yes, roosevelt knew it very well. he discussed the future of the three baltic states and he was bent on influencing stalin to the greatest extent he could. he thought that of course roosevelt didn't think he was going to die. he thought in another 10 or 22 is going to be able to sort of came stalin and make him a more responsible person. but in the meantime he wasn't about to throw over the united nations for the sake of lithuania latvia and estonia. he believed that the countries that iran their own affairs. and after all those three countries had belonged to russia before world war i. i mean you can't you can't he was a very tough man and he did a great deal of evil but i'll roosevelt could do was harness him and hopefully change in, and he made small changes as i said.

megan: britain, new zealand, and estonia. estonia, they are using this great backend.are working to join. what it means to join the d-5 is having open-source government. also, all those countries are working to teach code to all children in the country, just like you teach reading, so the children have a fluency with this. charlie: is all that the united states had led in, in terms of science and technology, and other areas, is it at risk because we have not taken what we have learned and been able to apply it, because we are not doing the level of research that we have been, or is that simply a moot argument because so much is going on now in the private sector? megan: i think the federal government continues to fund research, and the private sector does incredible work. it gets affected. we have to keep pushing and reminding ourselves how much has come from that basic research, the companies get better at that, scaling from lab to market as we say. we are doing a good job. i want to get more americans in on the game. charlie: did you seek out this job? megan: i was i

he has already launched a cyber attack against estonia in 2008 so i think -- i do not think we should when it comes to the baltic states, but i think the pressures are more likely to be more subtle and covert than they have been in eastern ukraine. charlie: do you think about a return to government? robert gates: no. i think having written this book pretty much takes care of that . charlie: will you write another book? robert gates: i have already written another book, about leadership, specifically about how you change and reform big organizations to make them work better. i did it at texas a&m. i did it at the cia. i did it at the defense department. it can be done, even in a time of political paralysis, and this new book basically talks about how to do it. charlie: his book is called "duty: the memoirs of a secretary at war." robert gates: thank you. charlie: back in a moment. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ifical council in 2012. in his position, he has traveled around the world, advocating the gospel of the family. he is in new york to deliver an address at the united nations as part of the 2

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he's already launched a cyberattack against estonia in 2008, so i don't think we should relax when it comes to the baltic states, but i think the precious are more likely to -- i think the pressures are more likely to be more subtle and covert than in eastern ukraine. >> rose: do you believe the united states is retreating from the global stage? >> i think that others perceive -- many others around the world perceive that we are withdrawing from our global responsibilities, and it's not just the rhetoric it's not just pulling troops out of iraq and afghanistan. it's slashing the defense budget, the budgets of the state department, the agency for international development, all the tools of national security and foreign policy we're cutting back, so despite all of the claims on the hill and the congress that the president is pulling back the truth is tare doing i've -- the truth is they're doing every bit as much damage to the image of american leadership by their cuts in the tools in american national security as the rhetoric and some of the actions in the white house. >> rose: do you

estonia and latvia have incredible cyber defense capability. they have it for reasons i cannot talk about but they have the capabilities. we need to work with those and adopt those capabilities through nato. i see movement in that directioion. nato is thinking very seriously now about where they are going to go now that the russians have become more aggressive. i see tremendous opportunity. really stems from interrupt ability and being able to use things from x, y, z on a project. interface so we can use the best technology of any of our allieies. vago: for more of our interview without scschaeffer, go to defensenews.s.com. vago: four yearsrs, the nav has been opening thehe architectures of its once proprietary closed stems that were difficult and expensive toto upgrade. the gogoal has been to sft to a more open or plug-and-play architecture so that subsystems and components c be easily swapped or exchanged. weecently met th nick girton anand i asked him to explain how he is getting this plug-and-ay approacho the navy. nick: better buying power

to defend its sky, the country with estonia and latvia has now formally requested a standing n.a.t.o. army of 3,000. that's a real test of n.a.t.o. stated commitments to protecting these countries. >> we are asking to be together with us. if there is a process that will continue on the ground, the same as we have. it will be good. >> of course, the russians say this is hysterical scare-mongering. we asked for but were refused an interview with their ambassador. one of their diplomats said to me some people say we have a hand in everything. in propaganda terms, that's no match for n.a.t.o. open door policy to journalists. n.a.t.o. admits there's never been a single significant incident of a russian war plane breaching the air space of any of the baltic states. yet for all that these pilots practice this stuff over and over again just in case, they say, they have to do it for real. >> privately, some n.a.t.o. officials admit it looks strange to spend so much effort on preventing an air or ground war that they actually think is extremely unlikely. set against the western narrative of an

was the cyber attack in estonia an article five situation? was about other smaller violations of sovereignty? what are we going to consider article five? there was some talk of does it need to be rewritten. and frankly i think the consensus going out was no. because it's written -- it's written -- the way it's currently written is fine. what might need to happen is a discussion about what does it mean in a new environment? it was clearly written in the washington treaty in a different environment, where some of these other challenges simply didn't have a way to materialize. but now that's the next step. we've got to determine what does that mean, and as he said it's probably a thick line, and then that's up for the council to decide. when is the line going to be thick, and when is it going to be very thin? >> the broad interpretation of article five for the red team allowed them to hedge their bets, to use their tool kit, to push up to the line and then stop, and create that tension with nato. that's what we saw as a goal of the red team quit

was the cyber attack in estonia an article five situation? was about other smaller violations of sovereignty? what are we going to consider article five? there was some talk of does it need to be rewritten. and frankly i think the consensus going out was no. because it's written -- it's written -- the way it's currently written is fine. what might need to happen is a discussion about what does it mean in a new environment? it was clearly written in the washington treaty in a different environment, where some of these other challenges simply didn't have a way to materialize. but now that's the next step. we've got to determine what does that mean, and as he said, it's probably a thick line, and then that's up for the council to decide. when is the line going to be thick, and when is it going to be very thin? >> the broad interpretation of article five for the red team allowed them to hedge their bets, to use their tool kit, to push up to the line and then stop, and create that tension with nato. that's what we saw as a goal of the red team qui

and there ar no problems against estonia's kaia kenepei. she was coughing throughout the match and just wanted to get inside. >> well it's a rough crowd. >> thank you. >> join us tonight, the secret is out. where white water rafting is alive and well in northern california at 9:00 >> then at 11:00, breast cancer break through. researchers trying to change the way doctors scrn for the disease. and two hours of the bachelorett at 9:0 >> and finally a few thoughts about what really matters this, is a day forest and cookouts but should be a solemn day, when each of us should pauseo reflect on why we have freedom and quality of life we enjoy. from our nation's founding to this moment, men and women have sacrificed in service to something greater than themselves. my father took this picture last week on his visit to normandie france americans that never left the beaches 71 years ago next month. he attended a wreath-laying ceremony the and the word he used to describe it to me was "stirring". i wish i had been wh him. hundreds of thousands never c

with russia flexing its military three of its baltic neighbors-- lithuania, estonia, and latvia-- have asked nato to station troops there as a deterrent. part of this test of wills is playing out in the air as holly williams found. >> reporter: on europe's eastern frontier, nato f-16s and euro fighters drill for something they're doing more and more-- intercepting russian military aircraft flying too close for comfort to european air space. this cockpit video shows nato jets shadowing russian planes which often try to stay invisible by turning off their transponders. we watched the nato pilots practice from a military transport plane, but last year in the baltic states, they did this for real more than 150 times, and nearly four-fold increase on 2013. if the nato fighter jets don't intercept and identify the russian military aircraft, the fear is they could cause a crash with a commercial airliner. with its dangerous tactics russia seems to be probing nato's air defenses and testing how the west will react. general philip breedlove is nato's supreme commander in europe. >> let's put it

. >> but is estonia -- where does its end? that's a nato state. >> it shouldn't be a nato state. >> well -- >> is putin a macho man? >> he's a macho man. but look -- >> that shouldn't be glorified. >> is obama a mama's boy? >> no. >> no, he is not. but putin is following a long tradition, going back to stalin and the czars, et cetera, if you don't look tough and act tough in russia -- >> the russian people really do like that strong authoritarian rulership. >> don't say mama's boy on the eve of mother's day. >> i have a question. who would you bet on to win in an arm wrestling contest president putin or president obama? >> i'm afraid i've got to go with the russian on this one. [laughter] >> of course, you're presuming it's a fair contest. ha ha! i think -- >> a game of chess? i'll go for that and obama will win that. >> what do you think? >> i think president putin would win. but to be fair to obama i think president putin would beat just about anyone. president putin is in exceptional physical shape based on his photos and h

and there are no problems against estonia's kaia kenepei.g throughout the match and just wanted to get inside. >> well it's a rough crowd. >> thank you. >> join us tonight, the secret is out. where white water rafting is alive and well in northern california at 9:00 >> then at 11:00, breast cancer break through. researchers trying to change the way doctors screen for the disease. and two hours of the bachelorett at 9:00. >> and finally a few thoughts about what really matters this, is a day forest and cookouts but should be a solemn day, when each of us should pause to reflect on why we have freedom and quality of life we enjoy. from our nation's founding to this moment, men and women have sacrificed in service to something greater than themselves. my father took this picture last week on his visit to normandie france americans that never left the beaches 71 years ago next month. he attended a wreath-laying ceremony there and the word he used to describe it to me was "stirring". i wish i had been with him. hundreds of thousands never came ho

for example against estonia where government is totally reliant on internet and electronic governmentin effect. or, for example, stock exchange in warsaw that is very important in eastern europe. is it the case for article v? >> one more question or comment? going, going gone. back to the panel. and you can conclude as well. >> yeah okay. [inaudible conversations] >> yeah. i'll take the last question about the cyber attack. yeah i wasn't -- we don't have one, we don't have consensus about everything so when we said that he will never go into the baltic states i'm not quite sure about that. he won't do that with tanks i'm pretty sure about that. so actually in our war game we -- one of the -- [inaudible] was the conflict going out of hand and what's in combination with smaller attacks, cyber attacks in other places. so yeah, we considered that. and that brought us to the idea that putin is not so much that's how i believe looking for a gain of terrain or -- he's looking for a greater russia, but he needs some sort of conflict going on to keep the momentum within the elections that we w

he wants estonia. he was lucky a. -- lot via. --latvia. we have to get all of our friends from nato -- how do we bleed his army? these kooky callers, i would love to have the u.s. army in my town. build a basic connecticut. thank you. host: thank you for your call and your confidence in our soldiers. that is something we are try to share here. you bring up an interesting point when you talk about the complex things that are going on in the world. you brought up a specific scenario. what we tried to do at the asymmetric warfare training center is not look so much at the who of what is going on, but the what that is going on. we look at the techniques being employed and we may see a different kind of warfare that is being waged in a particular scenario. maybe that is the type of scenario where soldiers are in combat and they are not wearing a uniform. or there is a cyber component or an electronic warfare component. we are able to look across the world and say we solve this in this area. we see it also played in this area and this area. how

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estonia has had online voting since 2007 with nearly one-third of its voters casting web ballots in thisy elections. while there have been some concerns about the system's vulnerability to hacking, it makes voting easier. switzerland is also moving towards voting via cyberspace. but the best way to ensure voter turnout might be to require people to vote by law. several countries including australia, belgium and turkey do just that. and those nations have impressive turnout numbers, as one would expect. america is the world's oldest constitutional democracy. but it could probably learn a few best practices from some of its younger brethren across the globe. >>> next on "gps," the problem. how to keep critical medicines like vaccines cold in parts of africa that are blistering hot where electricity is notoriously unreliable. the solution came from one of the smartest men i know. you'll meet him next. . this is a road trip car. we're sold. it's so pretty. they're good-looking cars. it feels great. perfect. this is not what i would expect from a chevy at all. get more than you expect, for le

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i have a trip to germany, poland and estonia. a week from monday. and after that i'll have to make up my mind. >> reporter: a busy sunday and more to come with still nine months left before the iowa caucus erik. >> a busy nine months thereafter. thank you. >>> well texas is reeling in the aftermath of this week's heavy rain and deadly flooding. animals are also in danger. look at this shot. i mean cattle being taken to higher ground to avoid the cresting trinity river. officials there keeping an eye on the rising floodwaters as they assess the -- poor animals. the skyrocketing costs of the damage. senior meteorologist janice dean live. >> finally we have a little bit of good news. look at all of the rain that we have received over the last week or so. we received several inches of rain. this time yesterday, flash flood warnings and watches for the austin area and houston. the good news is we are seeing an end to the rainfall. it is moving eastward and drying out period for the next five to seven days which is wonderful news for them. however, potent

was the cyber attack in estonia an article five situation? was about other smaller violations of sovereignty? what are we going to consider article five? there was some talk of does it need to be rewritten. and frankly i think the consensus going out was no. because it's written -- it's written -- the way it's currently written is fine. what might need to happen is a discussion about what does it mean in a new environment? it was clearly written in the washington treaty in a different environment, where some of these other challenges simply didn't have a way to materialize. but now that's the next step. we've got to determine what does that mean, and as he said, it's probably a thick line and then that's up for the council to decide. when is the line going to be thick, and when is it going to be very thin? >> the broad interpretation of article five for the red team allowed them to hedge their bets, to use their tool kit, to push up to the line and then stop, and create that tension with nato. that's what we saw as a goal of the red team quit

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something similar from the central banker and this is why you guys came to me, for the latest out of estonia. talking about how progress is not moving to where it needs to be. three central bankers this morning weigh-in. talking about maybe having a tax on withdrawals from cash machines so you can put more things on credit cards. it is the most we have out of greece today, talking about a fee on atm transactions. we do not have anything serious from policymakers and we have not heard -- he gave an interview on sunday on the radio and that is laced we heard from him. if you can read body language through a radio interview, he seems to be prepared for greece to go ahead and default. stephanie: that is a gift interpreting body language in a radio interview. hans, thank you for joining us. erik: when we come back we are looking at the future of the industry new charter. the conference call on that deal is happening now. stephanie: i want to know if i can get better customer service from time warner. it cannot get worse. ♪ stephanie: ahead this hour, we will break down the biggest story. time war

nato members from estonia, latvia and lithuania are so worried about possible russian aggression theyy station three battalions of troops in their countries. holly williams got a closeup look at the threat. she's in brussels. holly, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. we flew with nato fighter jets from an air base in lithuania. they are intercepting more and more russian fight withers fighters bombers and surveillance aircraft flying too close for comfort to european airspace. nato euro fighters and f-16s armed with heat-seeking illmissile cans be air born in just 15 minutes. the russian planes they intercept try to stay invisible by turning their transponders off. we watched the nato pilots drill from a military transport aircraft. last year, they did this for real in the baltic states more than 150 times, a nearly fold-fold increase on 2013. if the nato fighter jets don't intercept and identify the russian military aircraft, the fear is they could cause a crash with a commercial airliner. general phillip breedlove is nato's supreme allied commander in europe. it's cold war sty

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are you seeing hybrid warfare against other, you know, nato allies, like estonia, latvia, lithuania,hat have a substantial russian population? are you seeing the misinformation campaign perhaps trying to reach those folks? and i -- are the targets the nato nations or are targets the countries that are more associated with the west, but not in nato? gen. breedlove: so, i'm not >> i do not think it is appropriate for me to comment. we see things happening all over eastern europe. i think i will leave it there. >> general, thank you for being here. i am going to asking a question not directly in your approval you mentioned former sliders. we heard at the pentagon there are as many foreign as indigenous, given all of that we are also hearing today that the u.s. naval ships will begin

very distressed messages from our east european nato allies in the context of the wargame, from the estonia latvia, lithuania, poland and some other nato allies. but the u.s. team did not feel that russia was ready to cross that clear, bright shining line of triggering nato's article five. though we wanted to reassure our allies, particularly in the baltic and particularly to encourage them to head off any possible protests or mass mobilization of authorities, that might give an entree to russia to meddle in politics, we felt the real challenge was happening on the doorstep of nato. that means ukraine. obviously some other countries like moldova and georgia we were concerned about, but we felt that if the u.s. simply encouraged nato to build a wall around the current nato members and say we are not going to take any cognizance of what happens jan -- beyond the borders of today's members, that would be a big mistake. that is why we came back to the very thorny problem of how to stabilize the situation in ukraine, and reinforce the new government there to where it can settle its difference wi

very distressed messages from our east european nato allies in the context of the war game from the estonia, latvia lithuania, poland and some other nato allies. but the u.s. team didn't feel that russia was ready to cross that clear bright, shining line of triggering nato's article 5. we wanted to reassure our allies particularly in the baltics and particularly to encourage them to head off any possible protests or mass mobilization of their russian ethnic minorities that would give an entre for russia to meddle further into their politics. we felt the real challenge was happening on the front doorstep of nato. that means ukraine. obviously some other countries like moldova and georgia we were concerned about but we felt that if the u.s. simply encouraged nato to build a wall around the current nato members and say we're not going to take any cognizance of what happens beyond that -- the borders of today's nato members that that would be a big mistake. that's why we came back to the thorny problem of how to stabilize and enforce that new government there and settle domestic differences wit

very distressed messages from our east european nato allies in the context of the war game from the estonialatvia, lithuania, poland and some other nato allies. the u.s. team didn't feel that russia was ready to cross that clear, bright shining line. we wanted to reassure our allies particularly in the baltics and particularly to encourage them to head off any possible protests or mass mobilization of authorities, meddle further in politics. we felt the real challenge was happening on the front doorstep of nato. that means ukraine. obviously some other countries like moldova and georgia we were concerned about but we felt that if the u.s. simply encouraged nato to build a wall around current nato members and say we're not going to take any cog cognizance. that's where we came back to the thorny problem how to stabilize in kren and enforce that new government there to settle domestic differences with no outside interference. at least from the perspective of the u.s. team, that's why they were interested in essentially making a stand in ukraine even though it's not a nato member. >> we threw

he wants estonia, he won slot they have. we have to get our friends from poland to come to our facility and train on how to how do we train the army. this caller, i would love to have the united states army in my town. build the base in connecticut. thank you. >> guest: no thank you very much for your call and your confidence in our soldiers. that is something that we are trying to share and you bring up a really interesting point when you talk about the complex things going on in the world. what we try to do and asymmetric warfare training center here is not look so much at the who of what's going on but though what that's going on the world. when we look at the techniques being deployed we may see a different kind of warfare being waged in a particular scenario and maybe that's the kind of warfare where soldiers are in combat and not wearing uniform. maybe they are in a cyber component or electronic warfare component. we are able to look at that and look and say hey we saw this in this area. how do we develop a technique a

he wants estonia. he was lucky a. -- lot via. --latvia.have to get all of our friends from nato -- how do we bleed his army? these kooky callers, i would love to have the u.s. army in my town. build a basic connecticut. thank you. host: thank you for your call and your confidence in our soldiers. that is something we are try to share here. you bring up an interesting point when you talk about the complex things that are going on in the world. you brought up a specific scenario. what we tried to do at the asymmetric warfare training center is not look so much at the who of what is going on, but the what that is going on. we look at the techniques being employed and we may see a different kind of warfare that is being waged in a particular scenario. maybe that is the type of scenario where soldiers are in combat and they are not wearing a uniform. or there is a cyber component or an electronic warfare component. we are able to look across the world and say we solve this in this area. we see it also played in this area and this area. how do w

attack was the cyber attack in estonia an article v violation? what about bear over flights? what about other small violations? what are we going to consider article v? there was some talk of does it need to be rewritten and frankly, i think the consensus going out was no, because it's written, it's -- the way it's currently written is fine. what might need to happen is the discussion about what does it mean in a new environment. it was clearly written in the washington treaty under a different environment where some of these other challenges simply didn't didn't have a way to materialize. but now the next step is we've got to determine what does that mean. and as gert-jan said it's -- >> we're going to leave the last few minutes of this, take you back to the u.s. senate back from their weekly party lunch meetings, continuing work on trade promotion legislation. a senator: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from ohio. mr. brown: thank you mr. president. i appreciate the presiding officer being my -- my colleague from my state from ohio. with the trans-pacific p