estrada. mr. estrada opened the door and ran out of the apartment, holding a frying pan in his left hand and a screwdriver in his right hand. as mr. estrada held the frying pan in his hand, one of the witnesses noticed that the cooking surface of the pan was on fire. once outside his apartment, mr. estrada poured gasoline from a red gas can on to the hallway floor. mr. estrada then bent down and dropped an unknown object on to the floor at which time the gasoline ignited in flames. mr. estrada then left the building. the san francisco fire department arrived on scene and extinguished the fire. the officers from tenderloin station also arrived at the scene to investigate the circumstances of the fire as did the members of the san francisco fire department, the san francisco police department, and the arson task force. the officers located the red gas can on the hallway floor in front of mr. estrada's open apartment door. officers observed that the inside of the apartment was charred and they sm

estrada. mr. estrada opened the door and ran out of the apartment, holding a frying pan in his left hand and a screwdriver in his right hand. as mr. estrada held the frying pan in his hand, one of the witnesses noticed that the cooking surface of the pan was on fire. once outside his apartment, mr. estrada poured gasoline from a red gas can on to the hallway floor. mr. estrada then bent down and dropped an unknown object on to the floor at which time the gasoline ignited in flames. mr. estrada then left the building. the san francisco fire department arrived on scene and extinguished the fire. the officers from tenderloin station also arrived at the scene to investigate the circumstances of the fire as did the members of the san francisco fire department, the san francisco police department, and the arson task force. the officers located the red gas can on the hallway floor in front of mr. estrada's open apartment door. officers observed that the inside of the apartment was charred and they sm

estrada dropped the knife. the bizarre incident started hours earlier at an apartment building where police say estrada lit the floor on fire with gas then ran outside with a large knife and frying pan and got in a fight with other men. police arrive shortly after this video was taken. estrada is still in the hospital with what the chief described his life threatening injuries.>>> still ahead, people searching for new ways to stay safe beyond a mask. turns out, there is a surge of interest in germ killing lightbulbs. do they really work against coronavirus?>>> plus, just in time for thanksgiving. is that pandemic making you gain weight? the science behind covid cravings and how to stop them. >>> this may be the next best thing to snow in the bay area tonight. >>> and a reminder, kpix 5 has a new app that gives you 24/7 access to cbsn bay area >>> i'm doing more comfort food than i ever have done in the past. >> does that sound familiar? thanksgiving is right around the corner and the pandemic is already driving

witnesses told police the suspect identified as antonio estrada opened the door of his apartment and ran into the hallway with a frying pan in his hand. he poured gas on the floor, set it on fire and ran out. firefighters arrived and were able to put the fire out. about an hour later, police received another report of a fight involving a man wielding a knife and a frying pan near the mall. >> he swung the frying pan and the knife. he repeatedly raised the knife above his head and made stabbing motions towards the man with the umbrella. at one point, the unknown male with the umbrella is seen running away who was chased while he makes multiple downward stabbing attempts from behind. >> officers ordered estrada to drop the knife. police say he brandished a knife and a stabbing motion. estrada ran towards the officer with a knife in his hand as that is when a second officer opened fire. estrada suffered life- threatening injuries. >>> amazon gearing up to handle millions of holiday packages, but the company ever to hire new workers is not sitting well with longtime employees. >>> plus,

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the fire alarms are going off. >> reporter: antonio estrada's apartment was burned. he poured gasoline on the hallway floor. more 911 calls about the suspect in a confrontation on market street. police released the cell phone video showing the suspect fighting with three other men. witnesses say he had a knife in one hand and of trying pan in the other. the town hall, police showed evidence photos. please show the nonlethal weapons used including a bright orange being badge weapon and another that shoots foam bullets.>> reporter: police say the evidence seems found five bullet casings and 11 less lethal projectiles. he is being treated at the general hospital for his injuries. he is expected to survive. ed drove an emotional response of people asking during the town hall, why police cannot use more de-escalating tactics. the police chief says this is being reviewed by internal affairs and the department of police accountability. >>> >> he was beloved. >> reporter: coming up, san jose city employee is among the victims of a stabbing attack inside of a church. >>> nort

estrada. mr. estrada fell to the sidewalk and dropped the frying pan but didn't drop the knife. >> ea strada is alive with life threatening injuries. >> we spoke with san francisco district attorney. we asked him about his decision to file manslaughter charges against a former officer in a deadly shooting. >> we definitely need more training and better training and need the public to understand that we enforce the laws equally. that in san francisco, on my watch, no one is above the law. that when police officers violate the law, they will be held accountable. >> keep in mind, this is the first time an on duty officer has faced a homicide charge in san francisco. that officer was on the job for only four days. >>> community and business leaders in oakland came together today with a demand that the city take action to address race and getter disparities. oakland hired a company to look into inequality in city contracting. that study was given to the city in february. they came together to demand th

the confrontation happened last week on market street when san francisco police say that antonio estrada refused to drop the knife. at a virtual town hall meeting on tuesday, the police chief released body camera video from the four officers involved in shooting at antonio estrada. >> two officers fire lethal and two others fired less lethal. >> reporter: this was the market street with dozens of officers arriving, weapons drawn. >> reporter: shots are fired from the nonlethal weapons as multiple officers continue yelling at the man as he falls to the ground. at one point, an officer appears to try to de-escalate the situation. direct backup, give him room. >> one person talk to them. >> reporter: the man is shot with foam bullets and regular bullets. police say they elected dozens of audio and video recordings, including two others involving antonio estrada earlier that day. the first was on ellis street at 3:30 p.m. a 911 call came in about an arson. actually ran out of here with a skillet. they were fighting in the hallway. the fire alarms are going off.>> reporter: police say his apa

al piso, autoridades, dicen usaron un arma paralizante, fue cuando le brindaron atención médica, estradafueron puestos en baja administrativa . >> y el departamento de policía de (palabra en inglés) responde a un incidente de hombre de la tercera edad agredido, al llegar a la escena, encontraron al agresor gracias a la descripción de un testigo, también lograron ubicar a las víctimas, fue detenidol por asalto uy crimen de odio . >> este martes personas pasaron momentos de terror, en esta zona, en san francisco, cuadrillas de bomberos llegaron a la zona,. >> las personas no sufrieron heridas . >> no le gustaban los vestidos, el cabello largo . >> conozca la lucha de este joven transgénero y su madre . >> sepa el llamado de la comunidad migrante de la bahía al presidente electo joe biden . >> este martes en el este de san josé inmigrantes activistas sze unen en una manifestación diciéndole a joe biden que no se olide de la promesa a la comunidad latina . >> presionarlos para que cujmplan los invitamos a todos a que apoyen este movimiento . >> la principal exigencia es que cumplan con esta

estrada's screwdriver as it was located at the scene. this is our final photograph, again, taken by c.s.i. at their unit. our presentation is now concluded. >> thank you, commander o'sullivan. now we will open up the phone lines for public comment and we will, as i said earlier, take questions. please note that i will not -- myself or commander o'sullivan -- will not be able to answer any questions regarding conclusions or the final outcomes of this investigation as this investigation is just at its beginning stage. >> good afternoon. the public comment portion of this town hall meeting will now begin. each public comment caller will have up to two minutes to speak. if you wish to join the queue for public comment please listen to the following instructions. those who wish to provide public comment should call 1-(415)-655-0001. again, the phone number for public comment is 1-(415)-655-0001. to provide public comment in english please enter access code 1461581628. again, the access code for english will be 1461581628. please note that you

estrada. and even when we do have an opportunity, it's up to mr. estrada whether or not he will provide any insight in terms of, you know, the trauma question but to your question -- we are -- and we always will strive to look at these incidents and we try to learn from them and be better for the next one. and hopefully to prevent the next one from happening. >> thank you. will the moderators please allow the number member of the public to provide public comment. >> caller: hi. my name is lawrence and i'm with district 9 or i live in district 9. the similarities between this incident and the incident with mr. vargas recently are shockingly similar. we have an individual in crisis with a knife, who is approached with -- by extreme violence from sfpd. so my question is -- what specific steps will the sfpd take to ensure that this doesn't happen again? >> thank you, caller, for your question. again, similar to the last caller's question, you know, we have to look at this and we have to analyze every aspect of this investigation. if we find that there

police chief bill scott released body camera video from the four officers involved in shooting at estrada>> two officers fired lethal and two officers fired less lethal. >> reporter: it shows a chaotic scene outside of the westfield shopping center with dozens of officers arriving, weapons drawn. >> shots are fired from the nonlethal weapons as multiple officers continue yelling to the man as he falls to the ground. at one point, an officer appears to de-escalate the situation. >> back up. >> reporter: the man keeps hold of the knife and shot more times with foam bullets and regular bullets. >> and -- at least one. one bullet in the mid-section. >> reporter: police say they collected dozens of video and audio recordings, including two other insy donees. the first on the 400 block of ellis street at 348 people testimony. a 911 call came in about an arson. >> and they were fighting in the hallway and the fire alarms are going off. >> reporter: estrada's apartment was burned and he poured gasoline on to the hallway floor. later, more 911 calls about the suspect in the confrontation on market

witnesses say the suspect identified as antonio estrada ran out of the hall with a frying pan and say he poured gas on the floor and then set it on fire and ran off. firefighters were able to put it out 90 minutes later. police received another report of a man wielding a knife and a frying pan by the mall. >> he took a fighting stance position and swung the frying pan and the knife, he repeatedly raised the knife above his head and made stabbing motions towards the mail with the umbrella and the mail with the camping chair. >> officers then ordered him to drop the knife, he refused and police say he brandished a knife and a stabbing motion. police say he ran toward an officer with the knife in his hand and that is when a second officer opened fire. his of her life-threatening injuries. >>> the airline that will soon require you to have a coronavirus vaccine to board a flight. >>> the new plan for a vaccine distribution practice run, when it will happen. ♪ we have the power to harness california's abundant solar and wind energy, but it's not available all day long. use less energy from

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resuelta la fiera iba a notar cortesía de david rodríguez pero el diablo no iba a empatar con michael estradario, en el nuevo estadio santos recibirá a pachuca será el 21 y 22 de noviembre >> vamos hablar con la nfl. >> iba abrir el marcador con esta carrera de 22 yardas, pero contestaban con el debutante que convencía >> con este bombazo en las manos para recortar la distancia 28 26 en el cuarto a cuarto pero sería la jugada clave, conectaba con él y parecía que ganaban el juego pero luego de revisarla la pelota estaba suelta >> en buena noticia, >> nos vamos a despedir, seis segundos le tomó a este joven armar el cubo rubyk todo se realizó por internet desde sus casas los competidores enfrentar un por los $30,000 de premio este joven este california y marcó un nuevo récord. qué tal te parece seis segundos para conseguir ese rompecabezas tan difícil >> yo también puedo cambiar las gráficas, pero véanlo nada más, ya tienen que descansar >> no para nada esa es la gran hazaña y pasan entrenando y practicando todos los días para lograr ese récord >> cuánto ganaron? >> $30,000 >> increíble hazaña

hombre hispano, varias personas hicieron llamadas a 911 reportando una pelea, agentes aseguran que estradaestamente acosar a una menor de edad en su casa, los detectives creen que este fue un inciden aislado. >> vÁmonos a una pausa al regresar lÍderes inmigrantes protestan en san josÉ para exigir al presidente electo, joe biden que termine con las deportaciones y cierre los centros de detenciÓn. >> tienen el mismo derecho que cualquier persona que nazca aqÍi no importa de donde sean tus papas. >> el gobierno de trump discute una medida para eliminar la ciudadanÍa por derecho. >> lloviznas, fuertes vientos y altas olas prÓximamente en la bahÍa, tengo los detalles en solo minutos quÉdese con nosotros tenemos el poder de aprovechar la abundancia de energía solar y eólica de california. pero no está disponible todo el día. usa menos energía de 4 de la tarde a 9 de la noche para una california más limpia. reto reto. >> centros de detenci joe biden aÚn no ha tomado posesiÓn del cargo y acÁ en el Área de la bahÍa tuvo probablemente su primera protesta, vamos en vivo con andrÉs desde las calles al

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video you can see the moments before police opened fire as they confront a man identified as antonio estrada who is holding a knife and frying pan. he refuses to drop them. he charges at police. one officer deploys pellets but it had no effect. >> the second officer discharged his firearm. they ordered him several more times to drop the knife and to stay on the ground. he did not comply. >> the incident started at an apartment building where he lit a floor on fire and then ran outside with a large knife and later a frying pan and then got in a fight with other men. police arrived shortly after this video was taken. >>> to the transition of power. the president elect said that he wants to move quickly in working with the white house on getting a vaccine to the public. this less than 24 hours arch the trump administration gave the green light for the transition to move ahead. nicole has the latest. >> america is back. >> the president elect introduced the six socially distanced members of his foreign policy and national security teams. >> they will tell me what i need to know, not what i want

francisco along 5th and market street in a virtual town hall yesterday afternoon police said antonio estrada started a fire at an apartment earlier in the day and got into a fight with 3 men he then engaged officers with a knife in a frying pan, several officers shot at the suspect with firearms and nonlethal projectiles so pd released body cam video that you're looking at here. footage of the moment of officers encountered the suspect. as you can hear officers repeatedly demanded a strata to drop the knife, but he refuses. he remains in the hospital with life threatening injuries officers who shot a stronger. we're fight as joseph to me and ryan to the north bay now pedal of a man is in jail accused of assault hate crime and elderly abuse. petaluma police say the tennessee timothy shown sir. use this stick that you see right here to be the 70 year-old man sunday night and east washington street the victim primarily speaking in spanish told police that he was just loading items on to his bicycle when the suspect approached him and started yelling profanities at some point schmelzer said that

video you can see the moments before police opened fire as they confront a man identified as antonio estrada who is holding a large knife and a frying pan. he refuses to drop both of them and suddenly he charges at police, one officer deploys pellets a less lethel weapon but that had no effect. >> the second officer then discharged his firearm. officers ordered him several more times to drop the knife and to stay down on the ground. he did not comply. >> the strange incident started at an apartment building where police say that he lit a floor on fire with gas and then ran outside with a large knife and later a frying pan and then got in a fight with other men. police arrived shortly after this video was taken. >>> time now is 5:08. forget the freshman 15. it's now the pandemic 15. >> still ahead, and streaming on cbsn bay area. >> pizza. >> cookies. >> noodles. >> or boba. >> the science behind coronavirus cravings and how to get your eating habits under control. >>> it's a little warmer this morning. you may notice the temperatures about three to five degrees better than yesterday. it won'

projectiles in a virtual town hall this afternoon police say the suspect identified as 26 year-old antonio estrada started a fire at an apartment earlier in the day. >>and fought with 3 unknown men he then confronted officers with a large knife and a frying pan sfpd released body camera video of the moment officers encountered the suspect. >>well as you could hear officers repeatedly demanded the suspect dropped the knife, but he refused to police also clarify the suspect was initially shot with non lethal. projectiles police named the officers believed to be the ones who shot the suspect according to police joseph to me and ryan thompson are those officers, the suspect remains hospitalized with life threatening injuries. >>yet another smash-and-grab near san francisco's world famous crooked lombard street. it was caught on camera today, a witness captured the suspect in a black audi breaking into one car after another it happened near lombard and hyde streets about 1 o'clock this for sale of the second joins us live from there now with specifics on what happened today. taylor. >>well more smashin

lethal projectiles in a virtual town hall earlier today police say the suspect 26 year-old antonio estrada started a fire at an apartment earlier in the day and fought with 3 unknown men. >>he then engage officers with a large knife and a frying pan as apd released body camera footage of the moment officers encountered the suspect. as you can hear officers repeatedly demanded that the suspect dropped the knife, but he did not. police also clarify the suspect was initially shot with non lethal projectiles police named the officers believed to be the ones who shot the suspect is shows have to me and ryan thompson, the suspect is still in the hospital with life threatening injuries in the north bay petaluma man is in jail accused of assault hate crime and elder abuse. >>the little police say timothy smelser use this stick to beat a 70 year-old man around 8 o'clock last night on east washington street. the victim primarily speaking in spanish told police he was loading items on his bicycle when the suspect approached him and began to yell profanities at some point the suspect related that he d

>>braving the wind and chill it's pretty cindy estrada visits red rock canyon with her daughters i justted to make them smile and they love in all major they take pictures and gaze at the desert a quick escape for the family before returning home for a different type of thanksgiving. we >>have a my husband's side of the family, some mine, you we all get together i make all this food him and stuff but. >>cutting that 4, 4 people before. >>this year bringing many changes including at red rock canyon the bureau of land management now requires reservations for the scenic drive to try and address capacity issues but it does not seem to impact the popularity of this destination we are climbing here at iraq's why bike ride on thanksgiving. >>burn calories before we thanks giving holiday weekend is one of the busiest times of year for red rock canyon for some coming here is a first time experience all for others, it's a holiday tradition i talked to so many folks who say you know they've been coming out here. for years, morgan hawkins volunteers at red rock canyon she came to help direct traffi

>>braving the wind and chill it's pretty cindy estrada visits red rock canyon with her daughters i just wanted to make them smile and they love in all major they take pictures and gaze at the desert a quick escape for the family before returning home for a different type of thanksgiving. we >>have a my husband's side of the family, some mine, you we all get together i make all this food him and stuff but. >>cutting that 4, 4 people before. >>this year bringing many changes including at red rock canyon the bureau of land management now requires reservations for the scenic drive to try and address capacity issues but it does not seem to impact the popularity of this destination we are climbing here at iraq's why bike ride on thanksgiving. >>burn calories before we thanks giving holiday weekend is one of the busiest times of year for red rock canyon for some coming here is a first time experience all for others, it's a holiday tradition i talked to so many folks who say you know they've been coming out here. for years, morgan hawkins volunteers at red rock canyon she came to help direct tr

>>braving the wind and chill it's pretty cindy estrada visits red rock canyon with her daughters i justake them smile. they love you h or they take pictures and gaze at the desert a quick escape for the family before returning home for a different type of thanksgiving. we >>have a my husband's side of the family, some mine, you we all get together i make all this food him and stuff but. >>cutting that 4, 4 people before. >>this year bringing many changes including at red rock canyon the bureau of land management now requires reservations for the scenic drive to try and address capacity issues but it does not seem to impact the popularity of this destination we are climbing here at iraq's why bike ride on thanksgiving. >>burn calories before we thanks giving holiday weekend is one of the busiest times of year for red rock canyon for some coming here is a first time experience all for others, it's a holiday tradition i talked to so many folks who say you know they've been coming out here. for years, morgan hawkins volunteers at red rock canyon she came to help direct traffic so there were

happened last week in san francisco in a virtual town hall yesterday afternoon police say that antonio estrada a fire at an apartment earlier in the day and then got into a fight with 3 men. he then engaged officers with a knife and the frying pan several officers shot at the man with firearms and nonlethal projectiles as apd released body camera footage of the moment that officers engaged distraught. police say they repeatedly demanded that destroy to drop the knife, but he refused he remains in the hospital with life threatening injuries, the officers who shot him or identified as joseph to me and ryan thompson. >>san francisco supervisor, shamann walton is calling for a community effort to keep the bayview district safe. he proposes a district and community safety plan in response to a spike in violence in the bayview. >>all of our violence prevention provides. people working tirelessly to just everybody's her every time something happens. the folks in their community. that's why we come together. because room there we endure every time a violent >>to date this year one 3rd of the city's to

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if you ask don't believe it, ask miguela estrada and other people. they have to learn to work with each other. so, rev, i salute you for saying that. and yes, 70, 71 million people voted for donald trump. as a small government conservative, i don't understand why, but i do know this. they're half the country and we have to figure out how to move forward with malice toward none. if abraham lincoln can say that after my region was responsible for starting the war that killed 700,000 americans, and abe lincoln in the second inaugural address talked about no malice toward none we can do that now. >> just to close this off here, of course, obviously, there's not only a massive search to understand the 71 million people and what drives them and what they need and i think joe biden made that clear repetitively and i think a lot of democrats are too. certainly we are. but where's mike pence and the legal matters trying to undermine the results here, the results show that joe biden won. that's not malice. that's not trying to stick it to anybody. that's just