. >> so estuardo, let's talk about this in a real way.sed same-sex marriage. the official position is his views on the issue are evolving. a lot of people say wink, wink, nod, nod, you have all these people in your cabinet saying they actually support this position. is the white house trying to have it both ways now? >> i think that the administration has moved forward in a very responsible way to ensure that there is equality and fairness for everyone in the united states, and with regard to the lgbt community, repealing don't ask, don't tell, signing the matthew shepard act -- >> we know what they've done in the past, but looking forward, you have members of his cabinet saying one thing and you have him saying another here. i mean, clearly this looks like they're trying to get it both ways. keep the liberal base, at the same time he's not going as far as his members of the cabinet. >> i think he's definitely being measured. the members of his cabinet have made these very compelling statements now, and i think that the president's going