as terrorists etc.we do not have to go very far back in our own history to remember how this issued played out in the opening stages of the war on terror. last i checked, not long ago, the guantÁnamo bay prison is very much still in operation. what will you do with these people? are they lawful combatants? no. this is a war on terror right? they are criminals. okay. why do we not send them on trial? why not charged them with a crime? we can't really do that either right? so what do we do? people will be held in limbo. that is where my book comes in. it looks at an earlier conflict. in short, it asks how did these guys figure out this problem? how did they address it? what would the founders do? that was my question. how are they going to deal with the problems posed by these 17,000-plus prisoners captured over an eight year war? before vietnam, it was the longest war in american history. in order to tell this story, the story of the revolution, we actually have to go back to europe. we have to go back a

many are sold into indentured servitude, etc.o they are using extreme violence across the rebellion. it is my understanding that the british were doing the same thing in ireland, particularly in 1798 with the major rising in ireland then. because rebellions pose an existential threat to the state. they call call the legitimacy of the state into the question. you cannot negotiate with rebels without undermining the very foundation of government. and in britain, the foundation of government is not the god or the king. it is a parliamentary monarchy, so any challenge to the parliament is as a next attentional threat -- is an existential threat that has to be punished. the fact that these are gaelic speaking, primarily, many catholics. it will make them seem uncivilized or alien to the british army, which is going to exacerbate this trend of violence. we see that is less so in the american case, which is a mitigating factor for many of these british officers. yes? >> [inaudible] professor jones: right. i can't quite recall the refere

delaware, massachusetts, etc., i am trying to do it as a region to cause i think that is better. but when you do individual strategies, the tension with that, and i think the rationale for the president is, you have different problems in different states. and i think the president leaving it to the states was not just right and legal and constitutional, i think he is right, that it is different in different places. so when we look at this state and talk about reopening, we will talk about different strategies in different parts of the state, because the numbers dictate the strategy. you have different numbers in different parts of the state. you asked the countervailing point, which is that people could drive from place to place, i understand that, which is why we are trying to balance it with a regional approach. i don't want people going to new jersey or connecticut versus new york, and how do we coordinate that? you do have different situations based on numbers. reporter: there is a lot of -- from people of state saying, we don't have that great of a rate of infection. how soo

who is responsible, etc.? to quantify that in new york, we have on average, 20,000 tests per day. our goal, very ambitious, set it high, then try, our goal is to double that to get 40,000 tests per day. we need several weeks to ramp up to that. it is aggressive. that is our current system at maximum. our current laboratory system, seven days a week, 24 hours per day, the maximum our system as it exists can do, is that number. that is our goal. it was a productive conversation. again, that is the biggest legal task we have to do that is identifiable from today. back-and-forthle and finger-pointing in a very fair and smart way. it is a smart resolution. i feel very good about that. if we could double our tests, that would be a home run. that is a big deal. funding to the states, legislation congress passed, did not have money for the states, it passed additional money for small business. that is great. we need that. that is positive. it did not fund state governments, which to me, is just a mistake, frankly. fund small businesses, the airlines but not police? fire? health care worke

diabetes, coronary arteries, and respiratory infections, asthma, etc.. this is a disparity that has been practiced as long as i have practice medicine -- and long before. i think it stems from a complex lack of social economic equity that is institutionalized and manifests itself in everything from our ability to identify individuals in care, and that inability to do that, over time, impacts differently on unfortunately,d covid has showed us once again that african-american communities are the target. karen?nton: rep. bass: i certainly agree with everything that the doctor has said, but i will also include in there the unconscious bias of health professionals, because you can look at some disorders, and you can see the disparity that exists across social economic status and the african-american population, and one that we are dealing with increase in a real maternal mortality, which is something that is difficult to reconcile in 2020 in the united states, that maternal mortality would be a problem and that it would be disproportionate and it is dispropor

that, we will continue to do our mission assignments around the world, in asia, europe, middle east, etc. our readiness is still high, still strong, and we are able to deter and defeat any challenges to take advantage of these opportunities at this point of crisis. so i want to thank all the troops that are out there, the 50,000 or so involved in covid-19. 140 countries around the world right now, and the other couple one million in uniform in some capacity in the active guard and reserve for their dedication and commitment to this country. with that, we will go ahead and take your questions. sec. esper: we are going to go to the phone lines first. >> first, can we ask whoever it is that is playing some sort of recording to go on mute, because we cannot hear what you are saying. sec. esper: we will get that taken. we are going to go back to the room and just go straight. >> you mentioned you may pivot to other areas now. can you give us a sense? you said you talked to 20 governors. where do you think the next areas will be? and also early on the pentagon said they would be the last resor

etc. i would also add that that shock declining geographical mobility of americans is another reason to worry about this. we agreed that the value of work goes way beyond the economic facility to include dignity and proper structure etc. i strongly agree with michael statement of age 135. the government needs to do more to advance economic opportunity to those who need it most. every. wilfred: for areas of disagreements. the first discernment is don't think you need to be offensive government, as michael appears to be in order to be and type popular. michael talks a lot about the need for limited government. he has dim view of government bureaucrats etc. pretty relatively for someone who is at the free market, as marco is but it seems to me they can think about that waste that it takes to defend us. the government can provide insurance security human capital in thent markets can rewarded risk-taking innovation and hard work. rather than seeing the two is somite opposed to each other, i pre

people rely on this, who do rely on it, people with lupus, etc. those in the hospital, there is too short an amount of time to get a scientific report. doctors, hospital administrators, they have a significant dataset before they give a formal opinion. anecdotally, we will get suggestions it has been effective, but we do not have any official data yet from the hospitals or a "study," which will take weeks, if not months before you get an official study. is that a fair statement? reporter: it sounds like it is not conclusive? gov. cuomo: on which? reporter: on that type of treatment. gov. cuomo: there has been anecdotal evidence it is promising, that is why we are going ahead. doctors have to prescribe it. some people have pre-existing conditions where it does not work, or they are taking medication that is not consistent with this treatment. but anecdotally it has been positive. we will have a full test once they have a large enough sample and data set. if we get an additional supply, which the government says they are going to send, i will call t

be trouble based on poor fundamentals being in place lack of water lack of electricity high poverty etc and get in there to provide the social mitigating programs that are required so that people can actually add here to the criteria that will ultimately protect us all when talking about data briefly you've launched a mobile app to stop the spread of covered $1000.00 how how could it ease the situation. it gives you real time information about what's evolving so it allows you on terms of the population side to screen people joe map whether you found a key actual case or someone who suspected also to find i had risk populations people who are at risk meaning they're not infected yet but they have diabetes or hypertension and we know those are predisposing risk factors and to be able to therefore protect them from from getting infected by making sure for example they self isolate etc but more importantly is given you data on what's going on in the community in real time surveys apple if people say we don't have water or food this is a this is in essence a director of red hot telephone lin

we come back in phases, reduced workforce, more space, etc. we have certain functions that are more essential than others also. same thing i'm asking business to do, we are doing. it would be easy for me to say, every state agency is essential. but there are -- every state agency is essential, otherwise we would not have it, but there are some that are more essential than others in a short-term basis. for a business, every division is essential, i get it. but short-term, do you have more essential divisions than others that you could bring back and do special distancing in your workplace? also, a factor here, that is implicit, but let me make it explicit in case i'm wrong. the big factor is what people do. that has been the factor from day one. andrew, why do you spend so much times going through the fact? -- all the facts? because i need people to understand so they actually do it. or, not do it. i gave them the facts on why i think they need to wear a mask. if people don't wear a mask, do we have the ability to force people to wear a mask, 1

we are using bypass machines, splitting, etc.. are stille ventilators in the stockpile, why don't you send them to new york city? gov. cuomo: we don't have anyone who says we need them now who doesn't have them. >> you said they are overcapacity. gov. cuomo: they are using plan b. we can't give everybody a ventilator for every situation. are using the bipap machines, the other machines but we don't that ayone who says -- 202 we are sending today represents the number that people say they need. >> three people have passed away, should they continue working -- gov. cuomo: we extended the deadline. the voting and filing deadline. i don't know what else legally we can do. he have to cancel elections period, and i don't think we are in that position. we extended the use of absentee ballots. >> are portions of nursing homes being set aside to treat covid patient? -- patients? gov. cuomo: we are working with nursing homes and trying to cohort the patients. patientse moving covid into facilities that are otherwise covid free? gov. cuomo:

if they were doing what they were supposed to do etc.. this has been a field of regulation and scrutiny that goes back decades. it's a field that, when you look at past, there have been quote unquote nursing home scandals in the past so it is a big staple of what they do. this crisis overwhelmed the nursing homes, and when i say no one is to blame, a virus of prey on vulnerable people and the concentration of people, well, the regulation still applies. and for the nursing homes, one of the central regulations is that if you cannot provide appropriate care cap patient, you must transfer that patient, period. that is the rule. and if you cannot find a place to transfer the patient the department of health will find a way to transport that. but that rule does not change. you can say, look, i can't provide care because of this pandemic, because my staff is out ill, because i can't quarantine. whatever reason. if you can't provide care, you are not supposed to be keeping that person in your facility. that is what most of this is going to come

etc the big difference is the federal system the federal system is stronger if it's good managed and it is a good manager in germany you have the heads minutes in every lender it's why even if they have less money they are they're all going as the better of lead of these improvised 11 this is a big difference between france and germany and i think a part of the german society will be aware to continue to keep the wonderland to lead there will be and part of that are it's a problem but at the end you can't lock down from months and months the people there fairly don't you can't do it a family with 3 kids. in the sixty's need a popular it's impossible you can't do it 5 way it says it and then it will explodes so to all it's all to the friendship to understand that we have to improve existence. and distance etc we have to open a little bit if not the people who we don't resist to go out without any restriction because it's too hot may i may i just ask my town from marshall to weigh in on this point are you concerned about premature reacts ation of the restrictions. well i feel that we h

because there there didn't have enough nurse etc etc the big difference is the federal system the federal system is stronger if it's good managed and it is good manager in germany you have the heads minutes in edge every lenda it's white even if they have less money they are there all going as a better lead of these improvised $11.00 and this is a big difference between france and germany and i think a part of the german society will be aware to continue to keep the wonder laugh to meet their will be and a part of our it's a problem but at the end you can't lock down from months and months the people of the family don't you can't do it offensively with 3 kids in a 60 need popular it's impossible you can't do it 5 with cigarettes and then there it will explode so that also also the french have to understand that we have to improve in the distance. and distance etc we have to open a little bit if not the people who we don't resist to go out without any restrictions because it's too hard may i may i just ask my town for marshall to weigh in on this point are you concerned about premature rea

why do we have a higher rate of infection among african-americans, latinos, etc.? well, who are the essential workers? we have a higher rate of infection among the essential workers, because they were out there driving the buses and they were out there driving the trains, and they were out there running the hospitals and the emergency rooms and the nurses and the police officers. they didn't get to stay home. and they got sicker and they died, more than anyone else. because they were there honoring their responsibility to their job and to public service. and let's remember that. and let's remember them. yeah, we are all going through a tough time, and it is a tough time. but a lot of people have shown a lack of courage and a lot of beauty. and they've had very tough lives. and let's appreciate them at the same time. any questions for myself or michael dowling or melissa derosa? no questions for mariah kennedy cuomo because that would be trouble. i'm just kidding. >> do you have any idea why it is a few days behind? the health department. online. >> i don't know why

those tests we i’e users, labs etc that those tests were not authorised by fda.without any information to us but have been self validated, asi to us but have been self validated, as i mentioned a couple days ago, we are working with the national cancer institute as well as cdc to perform oui' institute as well as cdc to perform our own institute as well as cdc to perform our own validation of the test that have been sent to us. we will provide as much information as we possibly can. there is transparency oi'i possibly can. there is transparency on the website about those tests and also the tests that we have authorised. thank you, mr president. from early in this effort, president trump has called forth the whole of government response to the coronavirus epidemic in america. by that, the president made clear when he asked me to leave the white house coronavirus task force, a full partnership in state and local governments across the country. today we renew that with our latest contract call with governors all across america —— conference call. we met with them to

gravity was moving to the east in any case because of growth, demographics, focus on manufacturing, etchat underlying will certainly extend. i think it is also clear that the west is certainly, starting with the u.s., will be less inclined to be completely dependent on nation supply chains. what we are seeing today, how difficult it is to get some medical goods when you need the most. because manufacturing is sitting in asia or china, where there is an earlier stage of the lockdown, so i think we will see shift.xorable it is a rebalancing, an evening out, of underlying activity. more westernming skewed, it is becoming more eastern balanced. i think we will see a flip back to a focus on western manufacturing of critical goods, and whether those critical goods are the current ben deming -- pandemic is medical, it is electronic and digital instruments and the like. we can expect to see a lot of refocus on rebuilding a manufacturing base for central goods and home markets. winters, like other banks, standard chartered's share price was hit the cancellation of the dividend. when would you ho

because of that fear many people do not want such them and eve them on this street or other holmes etc and it this is something that has to be solved because these means that the dead bodies cause it be them weeks we have to be aware of the persons who are moving who are shaking hands who are caught mean it cetera but that bodies have to be of course managing a way that these sensible with their. people in that culture and it is when you see why you keep a big problem yeah and obviously handling those. loved ones with with care and respect in a timely fashion unfortunately dr i have to leave it right there but we greatly appreciate you sharing your expertise with us this evening dr sciutto or god day thank you so much. now leaked memos from amazon corporate officials reveal a plan to discredit some fire workers these are the employees who have been protesting the working conditions there amid the corona virus outbreak so with a closer look at the workers claims and what's being done to keep them safe here's our take correspondent natasha suite with more top amazon officials are at odds

etc so this is the argument being floated that you want to give the argument on the other side i let let's hear it because i've got a couple points i'd like to touch on to go ahead no go ahead go ahead michael thanks and i suppose i just i can't or i mean all of the country i get this is these are the this wasn't your remark and this was the health minister from from israel right and i get that but we can't forget that there are a number of people in every country not just here in the u.s. that have these underlying health conditions that are not over the age of 65 there are people my age your age middle age people that seem perfectly healthy but they have underlying conditions i mean somebody is somebody with asthma that is 40 years old shouldn't die because right may catch a coronavirus that that that's not right nobody should die period but when you have moments like this the argument being made is that it just naturally happens. 8 people over 65 and people with immunology immunological issues will likely succumb by the way argument on the other side sure that may be true but here

3000 people hired just to man phones and the website, etc. so we have the number down. dramatically. but it was just a sheer function of quantity and volume. now, good news, bad news. yes, it's frustrating as heck. good news is the check, it doesn't cost you any money, you will get the check for the same period of time. but your point is right. you are without that check until you get signed up. but the numbers are way down. $3.1ght now, we paid out million to over 1.5 million people, and as the governor said, we are heads and shoulders above all the other states dealing with this crisis. the problem is as we get the down, that continues to build we are still getting claims and re-taught -- in real time. we're down to 400,000 outstanding claims. the majority are the pandemic insurance, the subcontractors, the gig employees, people who are out of work because their kids schools are closed, which is something the state has never dealt before. that was new as the result of the cares act. the department of labor, now 3000 people that are working on this issue. they will kee

., etc., etc.is interesting, because in 1928, he ran against a very impressive governor of new york, al smith, charismatic figure, in many ways seen as sort of the founder of modern liberalism before franklin roosevelt. his successor. and it is, you know, no one writes about 1928 without emphasizing the bigotry, the anti-catholic bigotry that smith ran into, particularly in the south. and extraordinarily, you know, it is not barry goldwater who broke the solid south and it was not dwight eisenhower, it was herbert hoover who carried texas and some other southern states. the assumption is that he only carried them as a measure of the anti-catholic bias that existed in the deep south, and that clearly was a factor, but there is another factor that tends to get overlooked. and that is, the gratitude that people in the deep south felt , because hoover was the face of relief at the time of the floods. you know, the only person , really, certainly the only person associated with government who had tried

we agree the value of work goes beyond economic utility to include dignity, purpose, etc.. i strongly agree with michael's statement on page 135 the government needs to do more to advance economic opportunity to those who need it most. that brings me to four areas of disagreement. the first is -- to be anti-populist. michael talks a lot about the need for limited government, a dim view of government bureaucrats etc.. a straightforward fair for someone as free-market as michael is. it seems to me you can think about this differently, takes two to tango. the government can provide insurance, human capital, the market can reward risk-taking, innovation, hard work. rather than seeing the two as opposed to each other i think of the role of the marketing government as being like the two arms you might put out as you balance your way, too much of one you will fall in too much of the other you will fall too. i'm thinking about the way government activity can listen anxiety and fear of the future and boost risk-taking. a conservative chancellor in the uk made a strong free-market ar

you can go of, go for a walk, get some air, etc.. go out for a walk in new york distance, this is almost an oxymoron, right? it is very hard to walk down a sidewalk in new york city and maintain social distancing. i had said new york city should open streets because, remember, the traffic is way down, way, way down. i don't know the percentage, but it is night and day. you look at pictures of new york city and you see one or two cars going. streets. and i spoke to the city council speaker about it and the mayor, and we did open streets and there was a program that was operational. apparently, they have a disagreement about how it works. i said, figure it out. if they can figure it out, i will get involved. but you need to have streets that are open. you have less traffic. you need streets open so people distance,nd socially you can't do that on the sidewalk. there has to be a way to close streets because you have no cars. you don't need as many streets. it is direct proportionality. reporter: you said you spoke to the president this

it's like your first car, your first girlfriend, your first job, etc. so my first combat experience was a night crossing of a river. it was the border between luxembourg and germany. the river on one side, in luxembourg, is called suyi river, on the german side, it's called the sauer river. trucks took us to the drop off point and for you get on the truck, you are handed two grenades -- a fragmentary grenade and you get a phosphorous grenade. as soon a trucks start to move, the experienced guys take their grenade and bend the pins back and throw them off the side of the truck. the minute you get off the truck at the drop off point, the supply sergeant is there and he hands you two more grenades, so it was like routine. they know you are going to throw the grenades away, so they are going to give you two more grenades. picture that on 145 pounds. i've got a blanket, a shelter half over my pack, i'm wearing a winter overcoat, i'm carrying a carbine over one shoulder, and they hand me two boxes of machine gun ammunition. but nobody told me i was going to h

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they would have to acquire the ,eagents to compile that test whatever physical equipment they etc. a finger swab, and and package them. and they would have to have millions quickly. we would have to figure out how to take those tests once you had millions of products. we have been working with labs, with suppliers. that is much easier said than done. we have not found a private sector company that can come up to scale that quickly. they cannot get the reagents. they are not equipped. we asked private sector companies to come forward a prie sector company that can come up to scale that quickly. they cannot get the reagents. that we would invest with them to evolve capacity and scale, but i don't believe it happens without a significant partnership with government where government comes in and says i am going to fund this. we are going to do it at scale. we are going to form a coalition. we are going to put together the new york state department of health with the connecticut and new jersey department of health. we are going to acquire the reagents from other countries. i don't even

economic news, etc. it is top of mind for everybody.ve seen over recent weeks that kind of content on our platform growth in terms of consumption 75% year on year. substantial increase in people consuming hard news on youtube. lots of it related to this crisis. emily: what changes have you made to adjust for that spike in traffic internally and in terms of policy as well? >> sure. i'll put that in two buckets. the first is obviously our platform is global. this crisis is a global crisis unfortunately. we want to make sure we are delivering the content to all of our users across the world. the good news is our systems and everything we have put in place of the course of the last several years has been able to scale. one of the things we have done to -- in working with governments and other people, we want to make sure we are delivering our services as we have defaulted. of course, users can choose higher definitions if they want to but that is the default setting we have done globally. that is in place and so the next few weeks, 30 days.

so there's feather mattress, feather quilt, etc. and what happens? all wind up with lice and scabeys. so son the 26, 27, they line us up in the streets on the whole company split in half. half on one side of the street, halfen the other side of the street. nd they spray us with d.d.t. now, this is a ridiculous thing too. they give us a shirt on. now, can you imagine what the germans must have thought? here's these americans. they're dropping their pant necessary middle of the street and some guy is walking along looking at them and inspecting them, you know? i don't think we have anything to be afraid of, you know? so, at any rate, that, i never forget either. there's a non-fratization policy. here's a bunch of g.i.'s. we've been out in the field for something like two months and now we're coming into towns and this german -- there's german women. there's no -- that's another thing the german women used to say or i'll translate it. six years, no men. and six years no chocolate. and the americans were very happy to provide both. ok? at any rate on mar

it had other provisions to facilitate the work of community banks, etc., just expedite the ppp. in addition to that, in terms of small businesses, and that is essential, we had two features. one was in an earlier bill and one in cares. in the earlier bill had the disaster loan program. we had $1 billion in that which would leverage to $7 billion plus in disaster loans. the are in great demand, to tune of almost $300 billion of requests. in our proposal today we are saying -- we put it forth yesterday put on the floor today called for $50 billion in disaster -- sba disaster loans. that would be leveraged to $300 billion. this is a very fast way to help small businesses. in the cares act we had a grant program. bipartisan supported. grants to small businesses. $10 billion. it is already called upon be the $10 billion. we put $15 billion additional there. we are saying we will have the billion to, $250 help small businesses. $125 billion to go to ppp as we respect and another $125 billion should be , whatd among direct loans we call the disaster loans. a big ticket item used by all

likely and most likely because they have higher incidence of diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, etc is moreseesting but fo on their communities in which the outbreaks occur, and those in my state, such as new orleans, shreve work, baton rouge, which have a lot of african-americans who li there. laura: as a physicianre you concerned about rushing to reopen ther:ountry? senahere is a balance between your financial healthan your physical health, so you certainly do not want to rush, but you do not want to overly dey. as someone's business goes bankrupt, i can tell you that has impact on their emotional health and maybe physical health and maybe their marriage and their children. so you want that balance, and that is what we are striving for. laura: h the whitese has said there is currently no plan to fire dr. fauci. how important is dr. fauci to the effort to contain coronavirus, and would you urge the president to keep him? senator: yes, would. i think dr. fauci has become incredibly important. he is the head of the division of the national institutes of health, which does all of this

could not take care of the also going to happen car accident, myocardial infarction, gunshot wound, etc least we still have capacity. the curve has flattened. it is going up elsewhere in the state, but overall, it looks better now than it did a few weeks ago. laura: are you doing more testing i madef communities color, given so many have died? senator: with theistribution of our state with the disease so far is that it started off in southeast louisiana, so new orleans parish, about 60%, and african-americans is that most of the deaths have been in orleans parish, which is, as i described, but on the other hand, african-americans are particularly prone, white likely and most likely because they have highe o inciden diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, etc.. there is more testing but focused on their communities in whh the outbreaks occur, and those in my state, such as new orleans, shreve work, baton rouge, which have a lot of african-americans who live there. laur as a physician, are you concernehi about r to reopen the country? senator: there is a balance tween your financial healt

etc didn't and then this why are they even so i am not in a gov service i have been visiting many the trestles from my post. friends who are in government there when dealing with some european countries combined to some support and i know how he could check with britain because or over the world health organization has said that we must test test test as you just said the trumpet ministration has called out to britain's response as being i think goal jumps at a one point catastrophic what are the w a h o. boss ted rall saddam do does he have to be very diplomatic when he sees a country like britain not new testing in fact as of this week there was a limit on a 15 percent on testing of n.h.s. frontline staff here in britain. i can understand and appreciate the difficulties and the sometimes not where oh my nice at the beginning of this. mass a spread of a car or a virus i can understand your dis challenging a situation i'm in and been contacted by any british government but. i hope that they you know 10 unions a day should have a point you need to wait around until he opened union now

identify the fact that feeding america has had long-term partnerships with farmers, the dairy industry, etc., and we are working now to come up with solutions in a challenging environment. i do not believe any of those people who are dumping want to dump. they would preferred that that food find its way to people who can use it. we are working on solutions to try to make that happen. host: the new york times with some statistics on that process. shells -- shelves, but farmers put food to waste. are dumping as many as 3.7 million gallons of milk each day. a single chicken processor is smashing 750,000 unhitched eggs every week. they write that many farmers say they have donated part of the surplus to food banks and meals on wheels programs, which have been overwhelmed with demand, but there is only so much perishable food that charities can absorb. your thoughts? all of those points are accurate. one of the things that was not highlighted was that one of the challenges we would have and the charitable foods system would be the type of containers we would need. some ofight imagine, these dair