up with an interactive graphic on which that terminal function is based and low and behold, the ethel lanceee statement came out at 2:00 and someone put negative thoughts and it broke our chart. professor did you break her chart? guest: you will have to wait 10 years to find out. there is a serious aspect to that story. willive interest rates take us into uncharted territory. it he who is the fed to start talking openly now about the to allowty now financial institution and other members of the public who rely on the idea that interest-rate are always going to be positive and prepare for the eventuality that they might turn negative. someught the chair made comments going the opposite direction, suggesting zero interest rates are not really on the table. i think that works against what the fed is trying to accomplish both in terms of the economy. scarlet: if you look at the countries that have adopted make -- have adopted negative interest rates, denmark was the first and in sweden and then japan this year. tofour years enough time determine whether the danish experiment is ask it -- is a s