for the moment, thank you now ethicacy's go to our washington studio, a u.s. attorney for the human rights organization reprieve. thank you so much for joining us here. obviously your organization represents many people that were kept in prisoners in places like guantanamo bay, what is your reaction to this report? so far i know there's 500 plus pages i don't expect you to have read it all, from what you have heard so far, anything there that surprised you. >> well, first of all, thank you for having me. we do represent a number of individual whose were held by the c.i.a., and are currently held from guantanamo bay. i have not been through the whole report, but i did participate in a study that looks at the program last year, so i was not expecting to be surprised by a lot when this came out. that said, when i did go through the contents of the report, and i looked at the details i am fairly shocked by some of them one of the figures that the c.i.a. held at least 119 in it's secret prims whom it used these techniques on, and at least 26 of them, so one fifth o

intelligence officers who questioned the ethicacy of the program. who questioned the management of the program. and that those -- that questioning really fell on deaf earring. and that was so familiar to me. when you thinks that are just wrong, there is no recourse. is this any validity to their arguments. >> well, there is a validity, i do agree with that. the c.i.a. was under tremendous pressure after september 11th, and i think that's what caused the c.i.a. to veer so far from the morale compass of the country, that it's intended to serve. i don't dispute at all that the agency was under pressure to get actionable intelligence, that said, the c.i.a. operatives are not trained interrogators and one thing that is coming out in this report, or that comes out in the summary, is that this is a program that was mismanaged as the case may be, by two c.i.a. contractors. that doesn't surprise me at all. i found that very familiar. at the time i was at the agency, i think any veteran intelligence operative, would have argued that interrogation -- harsh int

what made me sad is how many times they referred to cia officer whose questioned the ethicacy, who questioned the management. and that those -- that questioning really fell on deaf ears. so familiar to me, when you see mismanagement, when you see things are just wrong, there really is no recourse. i think any veteran intelligence operative would argue that harsh interrogation, do not yield effective results. that you do not get actionable intelligence, of course they will talk, they will say whatever you want them to say, but the attitude after the agency, at the time i was there, was that you would never get good information through torture. so i think the reason that the agency higher ups are objects so much to the release, is not because they genuinely fear that operatives or foreign assets are in danger, i think it is deeply embarrassing to them because this lifeboat that they have been clinging to, claiming these methods were effective has been proved to be false. something that many of us made the claim long ago. >> well, a frank man that was kidnapped three years ago has been freed. th

today willfully provide interactive information and remiss represent the ethicacy in order the c.i.a. is lying. >> since the reports release, president obama has kept a low profile. >> mr. president, do you agree -- >> rushing out shouted questions in an event senatorred on foreign trade. >> we are talking about exports, thank you. >> part of the goal buck up morale among agency employees. >> c. i.a. officers operating in very very dangerous places and are doing that in behalf of their fellow americas. so there is some concern. >> as called for accountability mount, he was clearly uncomfortable with all the scrutiny for an agency comfortable of staying in the shadows. >> i think there's more than enough transparency, that has happened i think it is over the top. >> >> and one other thing that he said on the osama bin laden raid he says that some people, some detainees who were subject to the so called enhanced techniques did provide information that was useful for the operation to go up against osama bin laden but still, not drawing that direct cause and effect . >> there are conflict

and the cia today are continuing to willfully provide interactive information and misrepresent the ethicacy of torture. in other words, the cia is lying. >> reporter: today's appearance could be awkward for brennan. at the confirmation hearing a year ago, he disagreed with the interrogation practices at the time, but did not agree stopping them because he had no authority over the program. >> thank you. we should mention, actually, former vice president cheney will be chuck's guest sunday on "meet the press." >>> in the meantime, in the wake of domestic violence cases, the national football league hopes a reworking of the personal conduct policy leads to big changes. nbc's peter alexander spoke with roger goodell, peter, good morning to you. >> good morning to you. in addition to play books, there's a new rule book for off the field behavior. the league, in particular roger goodell, took a lot of heat over the last few months, but with this new policy, goodell is promising big change. admitting to dropping the ball in the past, the commissioner says the league is ready to attack problems he