. >> welcome to the regular april meeting of san francisco ethics commission take roll commissioner vice president andrews sxhoorn supervisor malia cohen it's my understanding that commissioner hur is in a cab in route from the airport because of a detailed flight he'll be here within the next thirty minutes as a result i'm going to first call item 2 and then i'm going to skip down to item 5 and item 3 actually in connection with item 20 consent agenda are considered by the board to be routine and will be enacted by one resolution in the form or forms listed below. >> do you want to finish the roll call. >> you finished the roll call. >> i believe so. >> i'm sorry for the interruption in as far as item 2 the public comment appearing or not appearing open the agenda i'm raised the question whether or not that it was required under any ordinance are status that that be the first item in the 3 years i've been on the commission it always had been been is item but it strict me it in some ways seemed to be not in the proper place for purposes of the meeting the mean of that so that it will be

violation the york of the ethics commission to endorse the ethics for the city and county of san francisco yeah, and that's pretty much all i have to say thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioners or good evening, commissioners this is like 2003 all over again what we got a a criminal conspiracy to dpaufd the voters and procure the certificate of election object fraunl if a way to go back this is the election it should not be able to seek re-election by violating a allowing law i wonder where supervisor farrell is not here making his case i see if i can when the city attorney wants to make things happen they can we saw it with the xoef a settlement was reached quickly so when you're a member of the city family one standard and one set of family resources when you're not a member of the city families those resources are magnified for the city ties in this case the notion there's a question raised you don't have to change our direction you have to uphold the law and if the stooument has not run your going back job to make sure that you can't fraunlt deprive the violator it is not liquor mr. f

commission there's a group that johnson is fume with a national organization that is made up of ethics commission people but getting inputs on the job is critical before you look at the candidates and i'm not sure that h.r. a aware of a mostly target the job here is at it's you've added a great deal of duties into the commission staff and also facing a new political investment that involves for o more demands for transparency and greater knowledge of using the internet to get information to the public and prohibited behavior so all of those things going come into place not hire someone to manage a water system it is a new nuance to e so to the extent you reach out for people's thoughts and in the community what gos into the job and then making sure that people are aware people decided is the job and soliciting input on commitments a to step process i'll see as most workable. >> i have no doubt you'll have excellent xtsz buy san francisco has a unique amount ever authority and the ability to put something on the bottles that is unusual and you're in the heart of silicon valley valley to

ethics commission clearly they can have decides whether to act within it's four years stauchlts if in those interviews was absolutely no reason why the commission couldn't have requested forfeiture before october of 2014 but it self-and because of that and because those rules are clear it can't now you know two elect cycles later ask for for it is your the other thing about forfeiture we role don't think that forfeiture when is kind of a term of art is appropriate in this case as mr. sincroy said forfeiture is authorized by the law in a limit number of circumstances it is when a committee files a report and from the face of that report it is observe the committee accepted a contribution that means it's over the limit of a corporation so the committee files a report which happens all the time why our contribution from abc corporation the committee admitted it accepted and it happens all the time the committee discloses receiving money from sue commissioner president dwight smith and received another money added together over $500 contribution limit as mr. sincroy said no investigation

tom: let's talk about ethics. do you have an ethics policy? you do not. max: i have a personal set of ethics. i hope my writers do too, they tend to trap us. the idea is to give us this box we are held accountable against. the executive editor is fond of saying that ethics is a measure of how much scurrilous news your brand is willing to bear. we are in the business of getting information. how much are you willing to get that information in ways that people are not going to like and we're willing to go and do stuff that a lot of people feel uncomfortable with. tom: what would you get fired for? max: not --plagiarism, we fired a writer for a hint of plagiarism, misrepresenting your work, those kinds of things will get you fired but not stuff like getting the story that passes off an advertiser or something. tom: at buzzfeed, you just wrote one. what is the essence, what is the central concept? aneri: i canvassed people across editorial and it took a few months to put this together. my thought behind it is mostly it needs to make it easy for reporters to do

doesn't mean that it's the best ethics. the second point is this: i worry about what it is we're getting in this contract. can you explain to me the difference between what the security services are versus what the police department is supposed to do for the mta? what are the differences? >> i believe the differences are that the -- this security contract is for sfmta property and employee's protection and sfpd is more public related. i can only say what the contractor is doing for us. they're protecting our property, the city's property as well as the employees. >> do they go on the buses? >> they do not go on the buses, no. >> okay. >> they do protect the buses in the sense when they're in the yards over night they're watching over them for graffiti and those vandalism issues. >> see i have -- i might be open to understanding a little better what the need for this contract is, but i think that when you have -- when you privatize a function like security you have to be very careful because we have heard issues that have be

on the mechanic and prohibition triggered by the prop j issues and getting those foiled with the ethics commission we've identified some the procedural issues and the two that we identified were sort of enforcement policies and regulations addressing some of the streamline provisions maybe forms inspections for any reason violations that sort of thing and the second thing under the procedural it the forfeiture and last day policies that goes book to the august 2008 staff memorandum that outlines the procedures and commissioner keane asked for a review and perhaps improvement on that memo so we want to do that then we have two outstanding issues from the civil grand jury within a renovelist of the expenditure lobbyists reporting requirement and the response to the civil grand jury the commission said they would you would looked at it the issue as a general matter to decide if you want to move forward that's still outstanding and there was always recommendation with respect to additional gifts of travel those restraining order two issues there and then the final set of issues has to do wi

but to reject the contract for some sort of ethical problem when it's been determined there was no ethics violation, that doesn't make sense to me. so, you know -- no process is perfect; no contract is perfect. but this is an existing contract that has worked well for the agency, as shown by the fact we haven't had some sort of epidemic of robberies. it's worked well. it's protected these workers. it's kept them safe. it's allowed them to do their jobs in a safe environment. and we should approve this contract. >> thank you supervisor wiener. supervisor mar. >> thank you. i appreciate the concerns raised by supervisor kim and campos. and generally my philosophy is also not increasing guns among public employees and reducing it wherever possible in creative ways so that their jobs are protected and that they fulfill their functions. but on this one i'm convinced by -- especially by testimony from many of the guards themselves and sciu* and others that the armed protection for the night -- the 18 of the security guards -- the 20% -- is a necessity. and i'll just read kind of one of the quot

so i went on the ethics website to see a check list to see if it's a controlled committee you have the same consultants or used the same mailing list and there is no check list nothing on the web page itself that outlines how you can tell if it's a controlled committee we went through some stent with the rules committee he's not a declared campaign and not investigating to file that feels an unusual circumstances we need to wave a penalty in this case and move forward with a clear definition of what are the check marks that tell you what is a controlled committee thank you. >> members of the ethics committee ray heart if you look at the last item on the list order of determination ray hearts versus metering e mark farrell board of supervisors that was a failure to have a disclosure effect supervisor farrell said that was my staff mr. farrell has the attitude that he's not accountable for hi staff i wonder if he served in the u.s. military your answering or answerable so for it and i'll take the commissioners question on one hand and $91,000 was spent on material that bend his campaign

that developed into a kind of ethical ideas that may be one can live according to a kind of sense of universal values and lots that are not bound to geographically and i think that is the origin of our idea of cosmopolitan ethics today. >> host: that was a daring idea back then to declare that you were a cosmopolitan. >> guest: absolutely. the first person who did it was diogenes the senate. he meant it in a kind of in-your-face kind of rejecting way. he was famous for it rejecting not just the city's boundaries but also all kinds of human conventions because he lived in a bowl he often defecated in public or had sex in public didn't abide by any of the conventions of clothing more money that ordinary people would follow and according to him this was living according to nature political boundaries were just another part of the norms of conventions he rejected but later philosophers and especially stoic take up the idea and make it gradually they make it something more seemly you might think. where it doesn't have to do with rejecting every existing boundary but pushing our allegiance

our issues. >> julie andrews secretary of the senate, remember to be humble and have a strong work ethic. because the people you meet on the way up you will meet again on the way back down. >> in particular we have lack of true statesman, as much as i made disagree, senator john mccain did something very impressive last year, he committed to the veterans affairs reform bill, the senate for a report machines, essential to the character of democracy. at the point we have people willing to cross the aisle, to make these decisions with people they may not often agree with, that is essentially what we need to maintain the security, integrity of nations that go on. >> isil students who ranked academically in the top 1% of their states were in washington d.c. has part of the united states senate youth program. .. >> noam chomsky weighs in on domestic and international affairs, and we visit tulsa, oklahoma, to take a look at the city's literary sites and talk to its

so this is an ethical question. anchor: older man who conceive children are actually more dangerous for future offspring than older women are, but no one talks about that as much as they are talking about this case. guest: it is a very clear episode of double standards. a man who conceives late in life is much more liable to produce and offspring with genetical -- with genetic mel form of these and a woman. anchor: a double standard there. thank you for coming in and helping us think through this. greece has to pay its debt on time. that is the word from one of its major creditors, the international monetary fund. anchor: christine lagarde says delays would only make greece's situations worse. athens has to replay -- has to repay one billion euros next month. anchor: the lines being drawn now are without a doubt pushing greece closer to default and an exit from the eurozone. reporter: christine lagarde said there could be no grace. for greece. she said allowing delayed payments would be no different from issuing new

. >> dpjdz to the regular meeting of san francisco ethics commission we'll begin by taking the roll call sxhaerp commissioner hayon all members obey present first is public comment on the appearing or not appearing on the agenda with the simplification. >> i came to talk about a need for responding to complaint both filed with you as well as those referred to the suspect ordinance task force because i'm involved in would both aspects of complainant an incident in december of 2013 when i complained about nearly a year ago i've never heard a response nothing not to say we're looking at it it self-come within our jurisdiction silence that's a problem because what i was on the commission about mike dparz we talked about whether complaints what about stale so the fact i've not heard makes me wonder maybe i h had a valid point but want to talk about the complaints referred to the shoerns task force i've had complaint where i got a unanimous or overwhelming vote sometimes i'd get a response you don't think this would hundred thousand dollar hold up in court i spent time on the task force envelo

life is likely to be 0 more ethically evolved and less sat tannic evolved than humans. both francis must emphasize the themes of extraterrestrial not sharing an original sin, being more ethically involved, being more capable of sharing the christian message, i love how he knows all about what the e.t.s are going to be like. think back to the athiests who are convinced that finding e.t.'s will prove that atheism is correct and the guy that things that finding e.t.s will prove there is a god. this fact we haven't found e.ts have caused either side to doubt the faith. i'm not sure why fining them should convince anybody. and furthermore, who is to say that e.t.s are going to be better or worse? maybe they are better. maybe they are worse. either way it's a sobering thought. okay. so maybe the extraterrestrials exist. maybe they can get us to live better lives. maybe they can be our brothers. maybe -- well, consider this movie. consider the fate of the alien "the day the argentina stood still" who came to earth. "to save humankind, and aim not a happy ending. haven't we alr

the contract using past contract as a template for prior exclusive recruitment. >> work with the go ethics commission and that i will hand that over to the court to work directly with the commission. >> suppose that a clue of recruiter is not hovered the commission decided to it it themselves that is $35,000 what would be the assistance in our role with the h.r. department. >> we offer expertise and the environment i recruitment, however, bans the commerce experience d h.r. has had we've been successful in finding adhesive qualified candidates. >> question for the staff if we were going to do have a committee it would have to be one or two right. >> this is a good opportunity for me to say i'm going to leave the remainder of tour discussion i want to apply for the position i'm not attempt to influence it in any way so there you go. >> it will have to be h.r. didn't recommend readvertise it and conduct the selection using the voices of the d h.r. and the city attorney to make sure they're no legal pitfalls in the either the commissioners or the chair could appoint a couple of people to loca

an ethics code. [laughter] what do think the stance of journalism should be about illegally obtained info, but not illegally obtained by you? rocco: i think the standard is the same, and still is. i think you'll find we are circling back to a lot of things. i read the ethics code, it is really great. i think you have thought through most things. i think it was spot on. i have to tell you that. shani: thank you. rocco they are pretty : traditional values, i think. really the question is, is it in the public's interest to know? you can get into the cold gatekeeper thing. -- the whole gatekeeper thing. i feel that morality is no longer a religious thing, it is not something that your mom teaches you, it is an efficiency. because if you lie, you die. that is my ethics policy. because it is going to come out, and it is going to be far worse than, you know than bw, whatever , is going on right now. you can see how bad things can get. that, to me, is the most simple policy. in terms of these leaks, have --

hard, beauty ethics are it not so. we have better paint.er plaster them michelangelo did. we don't have better artist than michelangelo. and the fact that we have got better plaster doesn't make what michelangelo did obsolete. we can rely on technological advances made by our ancestors without getting into the trial and error of figuring out how make them again. we don't have to reinvent the wheel but we cannot let earlier generations make our moral decisions for us. we can't even affirm to some kind of experiment that the decisions made by socrates or any of these other grades actually where the correct decisions. and if we could we would no longer be free. but worse than not, looking for e.t. so we will all become better behaved little children is the wrong way to think about it. it's a baptizing universe by imposing our own preconceptions onto the universe. i think everyone here agrees there is a reason to be wary of imposing our view of religion for or against onto any aliens we might meet. they must also be wary of imposing our view of

>> we have a code of ethics.ear at our convention or when the students graduate or at school they take a pledge and when they graduate they take a pledge. it's a healing profession. i am sure 99% will follow the advice. >> you are conscious of this resolution bringing into line with other associations in the medical arena. >> well that was the basis. we did a draft, a hard draft, supporting information from the american medical association, nurses. it's to where the rest of professionals already were. >> do you think it was easier to pass as a question to the members, given what is happening inside american death chambers over the past year, year and a half. with so many executions. taking so long and clearly going wrong in these executions. >> well there were still questions. if the person may be ordered to do it. and the questions need answers. there's webbin areas talking about the new business. we meet it clear, we aleafed all the attention, work, and complicating things things bigger than what they really ar

and is suggestion is that the political opponents are going to make, that there was somehow some ethicalthing like that. "the new york times" article and "the washington post" article i'll get to in a moment are saying this is based on a new book from a former republican operative, and that the post and the times did their own reporting. the county county supporthillary clinton supporters are saying anything he writes is suspect because he's such a conservative. now they're saying the clinton's themselves have benefitted hand somely with the foundations they're known for heading and supporting. they point out in the washington post story that bill clinton had made $100 million in speaking knees knee fees. the political implication is that republicans are trying to paint the clintons and particularly hillary clinton, has somebody who has approached the ethical line if not crossed it many, many times in the process of making millions upon millions of dollars for the family. >> it's a real connect the dots kind of story. like you talk about, one issue is whether mrs. clinton did favors for

the ethics commission passed this unanimously in jan and want to thank you the [inaudible] and thank you to my colleagues for your consideration >> thank you madam president. supervisor compose >> >> supervisor christensen. >> thank you. in a couple week state senator mark leno will ask the colleagues in sacramento to amend the state elish act. i ask we pass a resolution supporting our support. the legislation will return to san francisco some control thoferb housing policies. the new guide lines impact only san francisco and cover the city from other mu nis palties in the state that don't experience or even understand our cities unique housing challenges. there are corens that changes to the the els acktd may place a unfair burden on policy owners. [inaudible] the legislation is aimed at speculators and serial evectors largely llc and incorporations that [inaudible] through this legislation we strongly suggest they choose to the make their money in some way that doesn't evalve evicting residence from their homes. els act evectionerize climeing with 215 occurring last year and numero

. >> reporter: human rights watch has identified what it says is a sort of ethical loophole in the system. the worry here is that we're

he has such a good work ethic, and he loves to train. >> reporter: danielle has been training o'neil for eight weeks on the day they lead to downtown san rafael for his final guide work test. it's late morning, and danielle, todd, and o'neil are walking up 4th street at the end of the route. danielle is playing the role of the client, wearing a blindfold, while todd spots her. security cameras on the local buildings are recording them. >> my big job was to assess o'neil in his guide work. and danielle's job was to work him under blindfold and make sure he's doing all the fundamentals that need to be completed. >> there's no way they were ready for what happened next. >> i heard this pop, the breaking of the glass of a window behind me. and i just see this car -- >> a car is rapidly backing up toward them on the sidewalk.

congressman honda's 2014 challenger and his supporters requested the ethics investigation. >>> it was a hot day in the bay area and even warmer weather could be on the way. here's a live look from the exploratorium camera. beautiful blue skies, just a few clouds today. abc7 news meteorologist drew tuma has more now. >> a gorgeous day across the bay. today and even warmer air will arrive for sunday. highs today, comfortable. up to 23469 san francisco. 64, half moon bay. 77 in antioch. 75 in fairfield and san jose, topping out at 71 under plenty of sunshine. a live look outside atop the roof of the studios, along the.

trend 2009 and 10 we clarified shortening i'm concerned about the disparities between the chinese ethic group and the spanish it is a six months law but by high school a 4 year lacking lag this is directed towards superintendent lee in the poise discussion we just had we are going putting in 1415 fte into the elementary grades but page 8 shows you the middle school and high school are the most challenging but in the piece i don't see any el investment targeting middle school and high school maybe base in the general fund but i wanted to ask you know i'm presuming there is based on this kind of data there's like interventions directed at the latino groups that are lagging behind. >> i'll ask someone else to fold that question and i'm the sprint a lot of the investments we've made to the newcomer pathways really focusing on students with interpreted form education we've been able to make through our title iii grants the purpose of those federal grants to target and provide interventions for the ms. most at risk we'll have having had a surgery ever investments from the private foundation t

i think you also violated your own ethics policy. at the end of the day you know, you enaare both career employees. now you're a political appointee. but political appointees should be held to the same ethical standards as members at the department. and with that the chair now recognizes the ranking member. >> thank you very much. deputy secretary mayorkas inspector general was before us several weeks ago. i asked him questions about the normal process by which he reviewed this eb5 program. all of the members of congress, our constituents ask us all the time to contact the agency on our behalf do what you can, and for the most part, we do. it's not unusual for a member of congress to contact a federal agency about interest in a program. eb5 is a job creator. that was one of the the reasons it was put together. i'm going specifically to the three eb5 cases mentioned in the inspector jones' report. the gulf coast case. the inspector general talked act contacts from democrats. are you aware of any contact from republicans in this same c

. >> there's legal and there's ethics.legally right now, i am under no obligation as a physician to tell anyone. ethically, however, i would argue, if i'm a physician and i know someone may have a plane full of people and crash it, i feel that there may be times when i have an obligation to notify someone. >> reporter: a case 40 years ago shows the danger of a doctor keeping quiet. in 1969, california college student prosenjit poddar killed a woman he'd met in a dance class. before the murder, poddar told his therapist about his desire to kill tatiana tarasoff. the therapist didn't warn the victim. >> and the court found that he was liable, that in that case he should have violated patient confidentiality. so there's an ethical standard on the one hand and a legal on the other. >> reporter: but even reporting is not fool proof. in 2012, after james holmes shot and killed 12 people in an aurora, colorado, movie theater, the investigation revealed his psychiatrist had warned police that he was dangerous and homicidal. but it

talk a little bit about the ethics of the study. did they have to use a human embryo to do the study? >> well crisper lets you snip out a lot of dna and they wanted to see what would happen in a human embryo. they dit in a rabbit embryo or a chicken embryo or a plows embryo. i think the only reason they went to humans. >> you mentioned they created these modified cells that in a human being would be passed down generationally right? >> correct. >> fundamentally altering someone's genes without their permission that seems to raise an ethical question. i realize the person is an embryo when this is going to be done. is this part of the technology as this moves forward? >> i'm so upset that they took this step, do we want a discussion do we want to do it to get rid of genetic diseases, we have all heard about angelino about angelina jolie's breast cancer gene, we have had things to talk about. i know people are thinking well ulg just,you know, just leave it alone. those kids can't consent. >> so a japanese bioethicist twiern of them ha

but it goes across the board for everybody do you consider your business ethical. >> i do, unless you are of course looking for job as pope, but employers are not looking for morality, what they are looking for is skill and skill sets that can meet the job responsibilities. i want to prescription you in, because you ran the hr department for porch 500 company, do emmyiers not care about morality? >> absolutely they do. because especially in the financial industry where there's trust involved, money involved of course you have to hire trustworthy candidates so if the candidates if the employee. cos in the door lying then there are no trust. so i respect his business in the fact that there are a need for the business, i can see where people would want to utilize that, but the end game is an employee that is always looking over their shoulder whether they will be found out or not. and from an h.r. standpoint, that's not a type of employ yeah we would like to hire. hannah says some of the c.v.s i have seen are hilaire rouse. one girl said she was vault dig torian in kindergarten amazing,

they guaranteed to make their drugs ethically and advertise them responsibly which meant in contrast to pat tent met citizen hucksters they would tell you what was in the bottle the label became very important. and it wasn't until later on in the 20th century that the american system of pharmaceutical r & d develops in awould that the research laboratory is very important and the patents become important as a way for an innovative company to protect its molecule. so, one molecule is only available from one pharmaceutical house under one brand name. so, the emergence of the generic drug industry happened after this burst of innovative pharmaceuticals in the putt 20th center began to go off patent. the wonder drugs of the 40s and 50s are beginning to expire and opening up to generic competition. >> host: the patent laws, how do they -- well, what are the patent laws with regard to drugs? >> guest: sure. well, the patent laws with regard to drugs aren't that much different as patent laws regard to other substances the united states. they have the 17-year protection that can be extended

. >> the ethics board said yes, the rules changed in 2014 and williams announced he would run for mayor in 2014. >> the rule changes actually modified an existing rule to create more options for candidates. >> they could have been worse for them. >> worse in terms of having more money, that's correct. >> we did just get that interview with the ethics board in philadelphia. they tell us as to the williams campaign that it was the williams campaign that brought this issue to the ethics board that began looking at it and the ethics board tells us as well as the williams campaign that each side still disagrees on what was the right move here. however, if the williams campaign had taken that contribution and put it in a separate account and not spent it, we would not be here today. williams says he's ready to go back to the issues because this one has been settled. reporting live deanna durante, nbc 10 news. >> you'll recall last month democratic candidate milton street was fined $120 for missing a deadline for filing campaign finance reports. >>> there are six candidates running for the dem

if you can survive and be ethical out of that county, you're practically a saint.umber three, this investigation has been going on for a long time before iran was on the radar screen and, on most issues, menendez has been pretty close with barack obama and the administration. he hasn't opposed them on a whole lot of things, by any means. and new jersey brought this case and is known as a professional and incorruptable pros pro. >> why does he move on to this other thing? >> pros pro? the idea that barack obama would call up this guy and say, you know, i'm having a little trouble with negotiations. >> let's squeeze the lemon. >> i'm sorry. it's ridiculous. >> i agree with howard but i'll be devil's advocate. ted stevens got screwed by the prosecution. they screwed him and the guy died defeated for re-election because of that conviction and because of bad, bad evil crooked politics -- what do you call it -- prosecution. is there any chance that is going on here? >> no. >> just for purpose of argument. >> no. this started out -- they started looking at this in 2012, i

kennedy: it is, and state department is not bastion of ethics. >> yeah.ie to the pris constantly. i knowo cover of reason magazine, a cover detailed to department of commerce, what is it -- get rid of state department. >> you know burn it to the ground. kennedy: i would not go that far, that is extreme. >> don't, katherine, and jim, your final thoughts. >> i have enjoyed my appearance, i am quite happy for you, you are doing well, i hope people watch my special, i understand if you don't. kennedy: i am watching it, my husband and i love comedy, we love you, and i love you in ways that i am going to express after the show. >> and i would love to see video of it. >> okay. kennedy: mrs. clinton with endorsement from nevada, with the ladies with the bunny ranch. kennedy: welcome back. sex workers at bunny ranch, a legabrothel in nevada, they have launched hookers for hillary. tonight, stevie licks, a bunny at moon light bunny ranch, dennis move, the owner of the ranch. and a bunny summers, thank you very much for being here how are you. >> great, happy 420. >