when you spend all of your time not in ethiopian and not a lwa ys your time not in ethiopian and noth of your time always in washington that much of yourtime ina always in washington that much of your time in a country which is the most hostile enemy of ethiopian. eritrea is the most hostile enemy of the region, ethiopian. we disagree on that one. this regime, especially the dominant peoples liberation front has worked to fight against previously regime. so, why would it be wrong for us to work with eritreans? it makes me wonder about where your interests really lie. how much money to the eritrea government give your organisation?” much money to the eritrea government give your organisation? i cannot speculate on that. they give us money but they harbour thousands of all freedom here's —— freedom fighters in eritrea because that is the only safe place. this brutal regime, in many countries, can you, sudan —— can you. it kenya. the safest places eritrea. but they give you money, do they? they may, they may. i'm not going to speculate that amount. they definitely support our freedom fi

that is the sentiment of the majority of ethiopians. going to have a problem if dr abiy, in his role now as prime minister, does what he stated, a few days ago, to end the "years of misunderstandings with the eritrean government and to that end, we will play our part." you're going to be in big trouble if the ethiopian government reaches out a hand of friendship to eritrea because you'll be bargaining chips and you and your fellow leaders may find yourselves without a home. we shall see when we get there. first of all, the minority regime has to withdraw. there is a long—standing ruling by the coalition commission, which is the flashpoint of the dispute and conflict that led to that bloody war wtih eritrea. but thus far, the regime has not withdrawn from the sovereign territories of eritrea. that will be a very difficult undertaking for the region because most tigrayans consider the region not to be part of eritrea. and another word about, for example, egypt, a country that does not have a good relationship with ethiopia, not least beca

the ethiopian government has curfews. by enforcing meanwhile, earlier this year, the government began releasing prisoners, including opposition leaders, journalists and protesters. the government also focused on an infamous detention center. of course, this is a step in the right direction. we are also encouraged by the recent transfer of power. he new prime minister, dr. abiye ahmed said the country will address good governance base on the rule of law. it also seeks to crack down on corruption. again, this is encouraging and it could be an important turning point for the country that could provide an opportunity to widen the political space. but what remains concerning, however, is that ethiopia is still under a state of emergency and just last month, the defense minister announced the arrest of a number of individuals who they say were linked to protests. we encourage the government of ethiopia to keep the positive momentum going by lifting the state of emergency, ensuring freedom of expression and assembly and opening

and to the ethiopian government. i understand that there are difficulties and. parliament may need to get involved you know there are the legalities and the complications that surround this . but i think the fact remains that this is as as max said rightfully that there's a moral obligation here but i'd also like to point out that there were three instances where some of the looted items were returned to ethiopia and the first was to employ you know hundreds who succeeded teodoro after children's committed suicide and then there were two other instances where i believe it was in one nine hundred twenty four and one thousand nine hundred sixty five where items were returned to emperor haile selassie so this can happen and has happened before and i also think that if italy and this is something that i will said on twitter today or yesterday if italy can return the old lisc that they stole out of iraq soon in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven after sixty eight years and if they can return it with all the logistical

and the ethiopian people more than i have. i say this for a reason and that is to show that i know something about ethiopia. and i know we've been there before. what what happened last week -- what happened last week happened before and people don't even know it. they passed a negative resolution on ethiopia by voice vote. what their resolution fails to understand is the history of ethiopia, so i want to talk about that. now, ethiopia is the oldest independent country in all of africa. the oldest independent country, but one that is newly democratic. it's all new to them. there is also a christian history to the nation that nobody else has in the continent of ethiopia -- of africa. ethiopia is featured in both the old testament and the new testament. in the new testament, we hear about phillip. this is in acts 8. phillip running into the -- meeting the ethiopian union i can, actually on the road to damascus. the eunuch we find out later was the treasurer of the country of ethiopia at that time. phillip told the eunuch about je

british journalist john go on to an ethiopian political commentator while arlo shared their views on this issue we have looked after these historical are two facts we have seen what's happening around the world when we have less things there i mean i can point you perhaps a to our rock stroke syria and what happened with islamic state absolute nonsense as long as we're willing to give them out a long term loans i think that should be the end of the matter this is an entirely colonial narrative and i think it is extremely kwanten sending to say the these nations are unstable and therefore cannot provide protection for those looted artifacts they have sufficient capacity to to do. yes we did take them but is he really ethiopia's slate completely clean on this one i mean i just think it's a conflict it's raul there doesn't need to happen we're not saying we won't display them there we're not saying that when we displayed them here we're not putting them in the historical context we are this is just nonsense ethiopian states continue to be the moral owner of the same time the legal order

i think it would be greatly welcomed by the ethiopian people.ne a light on the plight of many countries around the world that are still fighting to have sacred and precious items returned. that's all for now. stay with bbc world news. hello, good morning. there is warmer weather on the way for all of us in the outlook eventually. but it was along the south coast and in sussex, with some sunshine like this, that we had 18 degrees, compared with around six or seven along some north sea coasts. that was thanks to that wind off the north sea. and similar contrasts, really, through the rest of this week. in general a lot of cloud around, and some further bursts of rain, too. now, the pressure pattern looks like this. low pressure to the south of the uk, some very wet weather again across iberia into southern france. higher pressure extending across the north from scandinavia, and that easterly wind. we have seen some heavy rain, though, across parts of the south overnight, and that will tend to head its way away from the south—west, keeping, though,

i think it would be greatly welcomed by the ethiopian people.to shine a light on the plight of many countries around the world that are still fighting to have sacred and precious items returned. a reminder of our top story: facebook ceo mark zuckerberg has been before us lawmakers today. he apologised for allowing companies such as the british data firm cambridge analytica to misuse the personal data of tens of millions of people. he said facebook had not taken a broad enough view of its responsibility and accepted it had been exploited by russia in the us presidential election. that's it for now. thank you for watching. hello, good morning. there is warmer weather on the way for all of us in the outlook eventually. but it was along the south coast and in sussex, with some sunshine like this, that we had 18 degrees, compared with around six or seven along some north sea coasts. that was thanks to that wind off the north sea. and similar contrasts, really, through the rest of this week. in general a lot of cloud around, and some further bursts of

maybe ethiopians you were driving? >> yes, some of them, yei do.ey see my name on the license of the taxi license. they always ask me "are you the one who play organ." i say yes. >> reporter: but he also once again does this: perform his music on tour, as in this recent concert in philadelphia for npr's "world cafe." with a new album, the now 71 year old is having an unexpected resurgence, decades after his career had seemingly ended. was it hard to go from being you know, very well known in your city, in your country to being mostly unknown here? >> yeah, it is... when people think about you and some of them, they think like, i'm not alive. >> reporter: they think you're not even alive anymore. >> maybe they think i have passed away, i have no idea. and some of them, "why, where he is?" all of a sudden i just disappeared and then people there forgot me and i-- the only thing is they didn't forget is my music. what i played. >> reporter: in the 1970s, mergia was part of an exciting musical scene in addis ababa that fused western funk and soul with

of poultry for african conditions here at the international livestock research institute in the ethiopian capital i disobey the scientists combine genetic knowledge with traditional animal husbandry skills. if we want i mean miles who produce more eggs who grow faster which are more resistant we have to select them from a pool from a pool of diversity and this is why diversity entered the game we saw diversity there would be no breeding improvements ethiopia is rich in terms of diverse poultry genes that allows breeders to plant strains. the researchers even commissioned art installations from screens of different poultry heads to a book with details of the human genome to raise local awareness of genetics the global cannot exist without the local and local cannot exist without the block that the global so we have going to bring that up to send a message to the committee saying submit it to the development practitioners to send the message to the father most farmers like feet some get bronner who lives on the outskirts of the city. he and his wife make their living raising chickens. techn

researchers are investigating the genetics of chickens in an unusual farm lab just launched an ethiopian the aim to raise disease resistant climate resilient chicks to improve contrition and income for farmers in east africa and it isn't just about the research but raising awareness apparently chicken farmers appreciate to. look just like chicks anywhere in the world but they're actually very special the sweet little tweeters are hopefully the beginning of the more hardy strain of poultry for east african conditions here at the international livestock research institute in the ethiopian capital addis ababa scientists combine genetic knowledge with traditional animal husbandry skills. if we want who produce more eggs who grow faster which are more resistant we have to select them from a prude from a pool of diversity and this is why diversity entered the game we saw diversity there would be no breeding improvements ethiopia is rich in terms of diverse poultry genes that allows breeders to plant strains. the researchers even commissioned art installations from screens of different poultry

we displayed here we're not putting them in the historical context we are this is just nonsense ethiopian states continue to be the moral owner of the same time the legal order all of these precious artifacts that were looted of the heat of imperial plunder by the british in the uki has no business was for evil to hold them indefinitely and a claim to somewhat have a moral high ground to. to the to be in people and to do to a pianist it how long do we have to where the horses are sure for how long do we have to we're past selves of an empire i mean a lot of what we did when we had our empire was good i'm not excusing what i've done i can't actually condo near i can't excuse it and i can't con demick it was over two hundred years ago disorder may not be as cosmopolitan as london or may not have the kind of infrastructure facilities that london has but it is still africa's capital and how the resources to display these these these artifacts and people around the world cannot. season it is in the financial interest of the people in the in the states if these people could actually. see these

i think it would be greatly welcomed by the ethiopian people. a light on the plight of many countries around the world that are still fighting to have sacred and precious items returned. and you can get in touch with me and most of the team on twitter — i'm @bbc mike embley. hello, good morning. there is warmer weather on the way for all of us in the outlook eventually. but it was along the south coast and in sussex, with some sunshine like this, that we had 18 degrees, compared with around six or seven along some north sea coasts. that was thanks to that wind off the north sea. and similar contrasts, really, through the rest of this week. in general a lot of cloud around, and some further bursts of rain, too. now, the pressure pattern looks like this. low pressure to the south of the uk, some very wet weather again across iberia into southern france. higher pressure extending across the north from scandinavia, and that easterly wind. we have seen some heavy rain, though, across parts of the south overnight, and that will tend to head its way aw

still to come on the programme: looted ethiopian treasures go on display in london, sparking debate onld be returned. 25 years of hatred and rage as theyjump up on the statue. this funeral became a massive demonstration of black power, the power to influence. today is about the promise of a bright future, a day when we hope a line can be drawn under the bloody past. i think that picasso's works were beautiful, they were intelligent, and it's a sad loss to everybody who loves art. this is newsday on the bbc. i'm sharanjit leyl in singapore. our top stories: mark zuckerberg has apologised to a us senate committee for allowing firms to misuse personal data gathered by facebook. let's take a look at some front pages from around the world. the front page of the new york times reports on what it calls india's big brother program. the government there is collecting biometric data on over a billion residents. the information will be used in a nationwide identity system. the south china morning post wonders if rugby fever is about to kick off across the country. the sport has already scored aro

i think it will be greatly welcomed by the ethiopian people. world that are still fighting to have sacred and precious items returned. a line of news coming in about the suspected attack in syria of the chemical weapons. the syrian government have invited the chemical weapons watchdog to centre team to investigate those allegations of a chemical attack in eastern guitar. let's check out the weather now with thomas. very changeable weather because the country today. the sun is out in east anglia and temperatures are rising. for many of ours it is a case of a chance of rain through the course of the day. the worst of the weather is across the north—east of the country, a chilly breeze often northsea, outbreaks of rain, but further south where the quiet —— skies clearing, even here we cutesy showers brewing during the course of the afternoon and evening. —— could see. here is that grey and rainy weather across the north—east. tonight, for many of us it turns drive the flavour for more rain d rifts drive the flavour for more rain drifts out of holl

into corporations at a cost of almost five billion dollars the great ethiopian renee's on star or harness the power of the waters of the blue nile ethiopia wants to bring electricity to the seventy percent of its population that doesn't have it and the world bank estimates ethiopia could export a billion dollars worth of electricity every year the dow will regulate the flow of the blue nile as it heads into sudan and the sudanese are very happy about that at the moment depending on the season the river floods or it's too low a steady year around the flow of water will significantly boost harvests but downstream on the nile in egypt is where there's potential for conflict over ethiopia's plans from above you can see how much egypt depends on the nile the country's pretty much all deserts the only strip of color is the blue of the nile and the green of its cultivated banks ninety percent of egypt's water comes from it one study suggests that if the dams lake in ethiopia is filled quickly which means over three years then that would divert enough water to kill off fifty one percent of egypt'

ancient egypt under the pharaohs the egyptian military commander ottomans falls in love with ethiopian slave aida but is supposed to marry the pharaohs daughter this dramatic love triangle is played out against a backdrop of religious and political divides. what really eventually became their entire thing is that they meant. in that mic in this i have that is about the relationship that this creep in the fishing. rod and i that unless the person they were listening to that. political figures are tightening their authoritarian government taking so it is exactly what i do in all my work everything i've done and times put our feet on the sound it's all of us in about one minute and the intersection on that threshold of little call time again and religious fanaticism. from what i define why it's how the tradition i.e. that really it's created as the construction of european imagination it really gave the nicest the chips ins and the it opens in a terrible way negative way so what we're trying to do it this interpretation of a guy is to complicate cultural backgrounds cultural ethnicities a

ancient egypt under the pharaohs the egyptian military commander roger maris falls in love with ethiopian slave aida but is supposed to marry the pharaoh's daughter this dramatic love triangle is played out against a backdrop of religious and political divides. for me what really eventually became their entire thing is that the name. in that mic in this idea that it's about the relationship that's from this tree in the kitchen after that and i've got a nice person a river system that. political feathers that tie them up to it same government the king so it is exactly what i do in all my work everything i've done in terms of a talk a feeling the sound is all of us in about one minute and the intersection of that threshold of political hiring and religious fanaticism. what i didn't watch it's how the tradition i.e. that really is created as the construction of european united nations and really they've been isis they tip since and the it's europeans in a terrible a negative way so what we're trying to do it this interpretation of a that is to complicate cultural backgrounds cultural ethnici

ancient egypt under the pharaohs the egyptian military commander out a mess falls in love with ethiopian slave aida but is supposed to marry the pharaohs daughter this dramatic love triangle is played out against a backdrop of religious and political divides. what really eventually became their entire thing is that the main dynamic in this idea that it's about this relationship that this three in the future. rather than america's interests is a religious fanatic. political figures tying their authoritarian government the king so it is exactly what i do in all my work everything i've done in terms of photography and sound is all of us in about one minute introspection on behalf threshold of political timing and religious and this is. what i didn't like is how the tradition i.e. that really is created as the construction of european united nations it really demonizes the age of sins and the it's europeans in a terrible a negative way so what we're trying to do it this interpretation of a that is to complicate course. all backgrounds cultural ethnicities and then religious differences and t

the ethiopian athletes, they know how to race in this condition. to the runners to make sure they are wearing suncream to high gesture hydrate up to the day of the marathon. and not get carried away in the early stages of the race. some of the elite athletes have struggled. maryjepkosgei keitany went off hard in the elite race but she struggled to keep up with the pace and probably struggled in these temperatures. it is a record number of runners, 41,000 out on the course with amazing stories, inspirational stories, and we will keep an eye on them as they finish hopefully in one piece and with a big smile on their face. many thanks, great coverage from the end of the london marathon. the day's other news. the health secretary, jeremy hunt, is threatening social media companies with new legislation unless they voluntarily come forward with safeguards to protect children's mental health. he's written to platforms such as facebook and google accusing them of "turning a blind eye" to the problems arising from social media use. 0ur political corresponde

some of the places in syria which are more quiet than eastern or northern from around the human ethiopian corti doors at this certain moment were used by people which shows that they came to the conclusion that they were useful tools to get out of the beseeched situation of essentially we have seen a lot of people killed and injured by also explosives remnants of war so it is a very complex situation where different tactics and violations also of international humanitarian law by by different sides. to an awful. tough conditions for the civilian population. keep track the facebook story on our site called social media to moscow for now is kevin owen saying thanks for watching this very early thursday morning in moscow one twenty five in that sean thomas is along here and out international throughout the night keep you abreast of all the latest breaking stories too for now good evening. yes. they've been waiting on this for a long time because we're talking about the dollar back that is the world reserve currency countries are tired of funding the america's wars because ever there's got to

of the blue nile politicians this is very much concerned they want to slow feeling of the lake ethiopians wanted to be finished in three years the egyptians wanted to be done over the period of eleven yes this is what they are discussing today aside from alongside another point which is cooperation between the three countries that's an accommodation by the leaders of the three countries in january in addis ababa some progress that mohammed has a feel like they are any closer now to resolving this. it is about this is the tense meeting of these five the ministers have been meeting for years now and we know without every meeting was highlighted by controversy and by differences and everything ended in failure we have heard some words of optimism over the last couple of days from the sudanese minister saying now we are looking for an innovative solution an unconventional solution to this conflict i also talked a bit earlier to a member of the ethiopians integration and he told me that there is much more than just a good saddam being discussed today cooperation between the three countries rea

here at the international livestock research institute in the ethiopian capital, addis ababa, scientistsombined genetic knowledge with traditional animal husbandry skills. >> if we want animals with chicken who produce more eggs, which are more resistant we have to select to them from a pool of diversity, and this is where diversity enters the game. without diversity, there would be no improvements. reporter: if he'll be is rich in a diverse paltry -- ethiopia is rich in diverse poultry genes. they have even commissioned art installations, from screens with has to a book of the genome to raise awareness of genetics. >> the global cannot exist without the local, and the local cannot exist without the global. so we are trying to bring that one and use art to send a message to the community, to send a message to practitioners, to send a message to farmers. reporter: farmers like this one who live on the outskirts of the city. he and his wife make their living raising chickens. he says his poultry techniques have improved in recent years. "in earlier times, our chickens were quite often sick

poultry for east african conditions here at the international livestock research institute in the ethiopian capital addis a baby scientists combine genetic knowledge with traditional animal husbandry skills. if we want who produce more eggs will grow faster which are more resistant we have to select them from a prude from a pool of diversity and this is why diversity entered the game we saw diversity there would be no breeding improvements ethiopia is rich in terms of diverse poultry genes that allows breeders to plant strains. the researchers even commissioned art installations from screens of different poultry heads to a book with details of the human genome to raise local awareness of genetics the global cannot exist without the local and the local cannot exist without the block that the global so we have going to bring that one and use up to send a message to the committee saying submit it to the development practitioners to send the message to the father most farmers like sheets i'm deborah hannah who lives on the outskirts of the city. he and his wife make their living raising chicken

some of the places in syria which are more quiet than eastern or northern from around the human ethiopian corydoras at this certain moment were you wished by people which shows that they came to the conclusion that they were useful tools to get out of the beseeched situation of eastern we have seen a lot of people killed and injured by also explosives remnants of war so this is a very complex situation where different tactics and violations also of international humanitarian law by by different sides. to an awful. lot of conditions for disobedient population. a story next to an american photojournalist who are spoke to says he feels betrayed by the f.b.i. after he says he spent months held by terrorists in syria he claims the f.b.i. used him to track their jihad this instead of trying to rescue him. ok to paid off my discover card so apparently that's what it takes to fool the f.b.i. and the immediately started to look at me as an enemy of the state just the lead case agent means you prudy she admitted this to me but i'm sure if there are some time went by they realized that it wasn't me

continues right across as high as one would expect the usual showers they extend all the way from the ethiopian halas right into the gulf of guinea close much of west africa. ard. top stories. of attempts to delay international inspectors get into the suspected chemical attack in syria the team is still waiting for access to the area and almost a week to arrive all. fifteen hundred members of a rebel group have left the area of the syrian capital. and. have agreed to lay down their weapons and now the new south african president has cut short his trip to the u.k. to deal with the violent protests at home demonstrators in the northwest province demanding the resignation of the regional leader they accused of corruption. now the u.n. says more than one hundred thousand people have fled. the democratic republic of congo this year their villages have been at the center of an ethnic conflict malcolm web traveled to the area and spoke to some of the displaced. will never know her two older sisters militia killed them with machetes before cutting her. family in this camp for displaced people in the de

he has been training for london in ethiopian.ourt official alberto salazar, but by paula radcliffe's husband, who used to coach here as well. this is her perspective on his chances in london on sunday. he knows that, realistically, people don't need to expect him to be right up there, leading the london marathon. it is a big ask for somebody that is world class at 1500 metres, best in the world that 5000 and 10,000 metres, to dominate at the marathon. that is not going to happen. but he can be competitive. it depends how the race pans out. i don't think he is coming in expecting to get a world record. but if he can grow in the race, stay with it, the closer it gets to the end, and he still in contact, the more confidence it gives him and the bigger boost it gives him. he is going in wanting to run a personal best, like many of us do in the marathon. maybe with his sights set on steve jones marathon. maybe with his sights set on stevejones as a british record. what else should be lookout for? weir renewing his rivalry on the londo

of the places in syria which are more quiet than the sinful or the northern from around the human ethiopian corydoras at this certain moment were you wished by people which shows that they came to the conclusion that they were useful tools to get out of the beseeched situation of peace and we have seen a lot of people killed and injured by also explosives remnants of war so this is a very complex situation where different tactics and violations also of international humanitarian law by by different sides. to an awful. lot of conditions for disobedient population. donald trump has lashed out of germany for the country spending billions of euros on a project that stands to benefit russia the remarks were made before meeting with the leaders of the baltic states at the white house on tuesday. germany is paying one percent and they're not even paying the full one percent of nato germany hooks up a pipeline into russia with germany is going to be paying billions of dollars for energy into russia and i'm saying what's going on with that how come germany is paying vast amounts of money to russia w

compared to 2009, where shabaab was dominating -- or even compared to 2006, when ethiopian forces were waging a very brutal -- against the previously islamic -- the situation today is much better. both in terms of security and in terms of politics. however, just today, this morning, there were several attacks in mogadishu, including two bomb attacks. unfortunately, this time, they do not kill many people. very close to the international airport, with his -- which is where it's located. and where most of the government offices operate. they're very close to that area. these are not rare occurrences. some sort of military action in mogadishu takes place almost every day. often this is just assassination. when i say just got this would be of course very problematic and very disturbing. they are often alleged to be conducted by al-shabab. a lot of insecurity is conducted by other actors, often hired by economic interests as well as political actors. in order to eliminate their political rivals. al-shabab is only one of at least -- in somalia. and so somalia will not achieve peace unless it

continues right across as high as one would expect the usual showers they extend all the way from the ethiopian halas right into the gulf of guinea across much of west africa. a story for two hundred years in the make. a story of succession and leadership. and jersey polls the story over the clawing of dimmest. the remember. the count of results three. zero. welcome mat a quick look at the top stories this hour the u.s. president warns he'll walk away a talks with north korea's kim jong un are not fruitful but south korea is saying that the north has expressed a commitment to complete denuclearization cuba's new president miguel diaz has vowed to continue the socialist revolution as the nation moves on for nearly six decades of castro. and fighters in the rebel held town of the american e s syria's capital damascus on handing over that weapons under an evacuation deal. one of the stories we're following queen elizabeth has appealed to commonwealth heads of state to appoint her son prince charles as the next leader of the block it comes as the u.k. hosts more than fifty commonwealth leaders in a

underground it is untreated it is not dealt with it keeps growing waste is of course not just an ethiopian problem it's not just an african problem it is a global problem now there is an exciting new project underway here it is africa's very first waste to energy plant. currently we are inside of the waste to energy plant and i did have a this what you see is the tipping hole. that will receive the waste so basically what the facility this one received is one thousand four hundred times a day this is equal to almost eighty percent of ideas how our waste what currently goes to the land the fields and polluting the environment once this facility is start operating and incinerate in this waste we can i want to produce a hundred and eighty five hour electricity which is equivalent to light taps thirty percent of i decide my household we're told that the plug will be fully operational in a couple of months from now and once it gets underway it's going to make a massive difference to the capital's waste management now this is technology that's already being used on every single other continent a

energy is about to end in ethiopia it's a project that aims to bring electricity to thirty percent of ethiopian homes built next to a massive landfill site in the capital where people sift through mountains of garbage trying to make a living stephanie decker has more from. this is only waste dumping site it is on an extraordinary scale we're being told it's been here for around fifty years it also goes around thirty meters underground it is untreated it is not dealt with it keeps growing now waste is of course not just an if you open problem it's not just an african problem it is a global problem now there is an exciting new project underway here it is africa's very first waste to energy plant currently we have the waste to energy plant and i discovered this what you see is the tipping hole. will receive the waste so basically what the facility this one receives one thousand four hundred tons a day this is equal to almost eighty percent of our waste what currently goes to the land the fields and polluting the environment once this facility you start operating an incinerator in this waste we kin

. >> clinton testified under ethiopian and there was perjury. >> it started looking in to a white waterl estate deal and took the same course. >> bob muller wants the interview the president. this investigation is boiling up to a crachendo. the question is are we going to get an interview with the president. all of these things will be on the table. >> you know bob muller, is he doing in there to get information out of the president or going in there to get the president to lie? >> he is not doing that. i think he is going in to try to finish his investigation. he would like to finish. you can't finish without going to the final target, if you will, or the subject as they call him. he wants to tie off the loose ends fflt the president lies, that will be an event. i don't think the president will agree to an interview at this point. i don't think he can help himself this exaggerating. he has to try that and tie this off. i think you will see a report to congress and indictment or a set of indictments. >> the next one will be, will he or won't he sit down with the special prosecutor. roy

hundred ninety five and assassination attempt was made on the gyptian president hosni mubarak in the ethiopian capital at a suburb on. bin laden and his egyptian allies were suspected of being behind the attack. it was thought that. bin laden used his farm in sudan as a training camp for egyptian militants opposed to mubarak. perhaps to counter this allegation bin laden accepted an interview request from a cairo based american journalist scott macleod. the interview took place of bin laden's farm in sudan well i met him two times altogether. as part of the same interview though i went to khartoum in sudan in february early february of one thousand nine hundred ninety six and it was during the holy month of ramadan and i met bin laden at his office in khartoum he had a construction company called i think i'll head you're a construction company and i met him in his office as the manager's office in that building. eventually in one nine hundred ninety six sudan succumb to international pressure to expel bin laden in may of that year been lot of let. his land and investments in the country were ap