he liked ethyl meeermam and edith piaf. >> charlie: how did she come to julliard. >> they invited her and i don't think it was basically a happy experience for her. i don't know the play is my projection but she was not a very good teacher in the sense of i want to do it my way, my way is the right way. a good teacher says tyne do it yourself, charley you become charlie rose, not terrence. >> charlie: you wanted someone there going through acts and students and you wanted them to speak to the audience. >> you can see in the play. the master class. calas spoke. you acknowledge. i went to five of them but she never sang full out whereas price once sang an art yeah and sang quite gloriously if i knew this -- >> charlie: was callas of the niece she lost her young voils. >> she was 52 at the time of the master class. >> they say she had ten good years. >> charlie: first you did it at the kennedy center. that was the first time. >> when the kennedy center said they wanted to do it again, who could you possibly get. i said it has to be someone fearless and of the theatre. and i'm on a stage,