remembered as one of the great divas of rhythm and blues up there with women like aretha franklin and etta jameswho etched this deeply american music that resonated throughout the whole world. and as long as people know that there is something called soul music, they will remember tina turner. karina: that's for sure. i feel like she has still -- is still talked about today. even by young people. she is still relevant. it is amazing that she was able to make that happen. even at an older age, to stay relevant for so many years, that is pretty unique in the music industry, wouldn't you say? >> well, tina made her life story her b and the autobiography broke all that open and she was very forthcoming about being abused, her hold tremendous struggles in life in interviews. but the fact is, every night she got on stage, she told her story all over again with the audience. so it wasn't like she is up there singing songs. she was up there being tina turner. and the audience knew what that meant. and that was what she brought to the state that other people -- stage that other people who just sing songs