that is what eua means, as opposed to being approved. >> okay. here, i want to pull in some viewer questions. one mom, beth, that i would never let my kids get this vaccine, it's been experimental from the beginning. there's also this 11-year-old girl who kind of went viral on social feeding she doesn't want to be a lab rat is what she said. what do you say to beth, that mom, and also the girl, the 11- year-old? >> so, i do agree, i do understand the comment that it was not cited or studied in as many children as usually these larger phase 3 trials are studied in adults. phase 3 trial for over 16 with pfizer was 42,000 peoppeop 40,000. this was only 2260. on the other hand, we passed our 1 billion dose mark of vaccines given out worldwide. it's kind of of of of of of of this got unremarked upon, the world health organization says, we have given out 1 billion doses of vaccine worldwide. about 270 million doses in this country. we have not seen safety signals beyond what we saw in the clinical trials, meaning, fever and sometimes we actually have t

what additional information will a committee need to submit and what was required just for so-called euahank you very much for that question. the full licensing is something that a manufacturer submitts with a full data package which i'll go into in a moment. i want to go back and pick up on something that dr. fauci said. these covid-19 vaccines, they were expedited not by cutting corners, but by going through a development plan in which kind of empty space, space that would have been normally just not stuff happening was taken away. so manufacturing was done while the clinical trials were done. the large clinical trial programs were of the size of normally licensed vaccines in united states. so we're very confident in recommending these vaccines for everyone, our families, all americans. the difference that will happen with the biologic's license is that manufacturers will be able to submit additional safety data, perhaps six months of safety data rather than just the median two months safety data and additionally, there is some technical things that will be there that many people may n

i will say c is a lie because i feel like there should be a difference between eua and fda full approval as in terms of how much data. >> c is c is >> wrong reasoning? run rick anything, why i felti t to include this here, the seychelles has a 60% vaccination rate . >> that's about where we are right now? >> we are approaching 60% of u.s. adults having at least one shot. >> one of the vaccine they are using a sign a form from china and in trials, at about 70% effective based on real-time data, it's less than that, if you think 60% vaccination, rates went down, saying the opposite. we can't just look at a vaccination rate, you have to look at daily rates, hospitalizations, cases and what is happening on the ground level which is why it's so important to look at clinical trials. >> make sense, our rates are slowing down a bit here in the u.s. in some places are offering incentives. i want to talk about that, the 49ers are offering 16 to 19- year-olds that you are of the locker rooms, free swag, gift cards to starbucks or chipotle if they get vaccinated at levi what you think about offers l

we've got to align with people that are respected in those communities in order to do that. >> the euaon, next week it will perhaps be final authorization and perhaps that will be encouragement for a lot of people who had been hesitant. this also brings us to the issue of the booster shots. when do you see that that will, indeed, be something administered or encouraged that people will -- those who have been vaccinated already will need a follow-up, a booster shot, just in case for what could be a surge in the winter? >> there's so much data around this we need to collect. what we have at this point is about six months of data saying that the vaccines are still effective in people, that they still have a good response, so we don't need boosters yet. but we need more data to collect to figure it out. i think most libel kely we are g to be recommending boosters. we do know that even against the variants, our vaccines are still pretty effective, so the big variant circulating right now, the b.1.1.7, our vaccines are still very effective. real life data telling us that. but i think booster

the reason i had to throw this in there, remember, with the school year starting and the eua coming for 12 to 15-year- olds, it's something to keep in mind. there are vaccines your teens, your older children may be eligible for, call your dr. , so you can space them out appropriately. if you can't, the risk still i'm sorry, the benefit still vastly outweighs any potential risk. >> serves me right. i should've listened to our viewers on facebook. most went with b. stephanie even weighed in and said, i had to wait two weeks to get my covid vaccine after another type of vaccination. so, hello, facebook friends. >> stephanie, stephanie is on top of it. >> especially kudos to stephanie. more learning will play take place right now. i want to ask about herd immunity, when a large enough portion of the population becomes immune it makes it hard for the disease to find people to spread to. is that an all or nothing proposition? or can we have degrees of herd immunity? >> i'm so glad, kristen, you worded it that way. it is not all or nothing. when it comes to the effects of herd immunity. as sev

if they choose to extend the eua to include those children age 12-15, we hopefully will see vaccinations in pop-up sites and primary care practices, pediatricians' offices. we know it's a trusted space for this. >> we've seen a lot of incentives from states offering free beer and things like that. a new survey found one third of skeptics would get the shot if they got 100 dollars incentive. should the government offer cash for people to get vaccinated? >> andrew, i'm wary about it, and my suspicion says that group who say they would get the vaccine for $100 were on the fence, just haven't gotten around to it. i worry this wouldn't convert the vaccine hesitant. appreciate the thought behind the beer and the krispy kreme, but the better thing would be guidelines. perhaps those who are vaccinated cannot wear their mask in certain scenarios, can travel easier or have different types of access to private businesses. that's the real incentive and not necessarily money. >> dr. patel, thank you. >> thank you. >>> house republican leader kevin mccarthy has officially endorsed elise stefanik to ta

so regardless of whether it is an eua or bla, you don't want to do a placebo right now. jeff: thank you. next question. bloomberg. >> what impacts would a trip waiver have on u.s. production, could it undercut supply? does the white house have any plans to push for broader international manufacturing capabilities? jeff: let me start with the right thing to do, the waiver. we are in an unprecedented, once in 100 years pandemic, and that calls for extraordinary measures in extra ordinary times. experts agree that the waiver alone will not result in the scale and speed we need to make enough vaccines to end this pandemic, and that is why we will continue to ramp up our efforts, working with the private sector and all possible partners, to expand vaccine manufacturing and distribution around the world, and increase, as you point out, the important supplies, raw materials, the equipment needed to make the vaccines. next question. >> tommy christopher. >> can you hear me now? hello? >> yes. >> good. my question is, i guess, for all of you. there is a new ihme report out that s

so the eua is based on very rigorous information.two months now look in the history of vaccine, we don't have many examples proven example it is that you get a vaccine and suddenly half a year or year later you develop bad side effects there are no such example and therefore with eight to ten weeks of follow-up of two plus months, if you're looking okay then, there's no example in the world literature that is reliable to say that suddenly with any type of vaccine you develop months later some sort of a problem. so that's just an type of basis now on an ongoing basis studies are continuing studies that informed the eua are continuing studies more and more follow-up da are available. it is on basis of that follow-up data as row say maria that pfizer will apply for full approval and they have not uncovered as far as we know any major new concerns. so i believe that your viewers are best served by receiving these vaccines as i have -- and my family has because they are safe effective, and risk of getting covid are much worse than anythin

start here. 250 million -- a quarter billion vaccine doses administered across the three vaccines with euasw of potentially fda approval and long term? >> so, the significance of that full fda approval is that it takes away one of those drivers of hesitancy in so many americans, which is, why would i get something under only emergency use? we as scientists have been trying to reassure folks that these vaccines are safe as well as effective, but once something gets full fda approval, there's no more argument. as that clip with the doctor played, it also allows businesses and universities and schools to start to insist on vaccination with a little more confidence. >> dr. ranney, scott gottlieb, former fda commissioner, said it is time to start lifting some more restrictions. here he is. >> i think we should start lifting these restrictions as aggressive as we put them in. to implement provisions as we get into next winter if we see outbreaks again. the only way to earn credibility is to show you're willing to relax these situations when it proves. >> do you agree it's time to relax some restr

once you get that, it's put onto the eua of the original. >> pfizer said it expects to request emergencyse authorization for kids ages 2 to 11 in september. could this eventually become a safe, routine childhood vaccination? >> absolutely, wolf. that's the ultimate goal. you want to do what's called an danger escalation. we now have it from 12 to 15. then you work your way downward from 12 to 9 years old, 9 to 6 years old, 6 to 2 years old and then 6 months to 2 years old. we hope by the end of calendar 2021 and by the first quarter of 2022 we'll be able to vaccination people of any age. >> what inning are we in as far as this coronavirus pandemic is concerned? >> we're at least halfway through. and i'm not trying to be overly enthus i caiastic about what's on. >> but we're not to declare victory prematurely. we're going in the right direction. we're seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. but now is not a time to declare victory. it's a time to get more and more people vaccinated. it's a doable goal and i believe we'll get there. >> the 7th inning, 8th, what are inning are you talkin

as we move forward with the possibility of pfizer eua, emergency use authorization for children, that5-year-olds, that adds another 5% to our population. but you have to think about whether your children have chronic medical conditions like asthma, chronic ear infections, things that can make them more susceptible and whether or not they live and interact with people who also would be vulnerable if your child gave them covid-19. >> we, and i say collectively globally, are still learning a lot about covid-19. and this week the cdc updated its guidance on how the virus spreads. it's acknowledge the that airborne transmission for the first time is a criteria. so what should people take from that, because certainly there was some of that messaging early on but now more definitively, the cdc is saying that's an attribute. how should that dictate our behavior? >> you know, very, very concerning and an awareness we have to remember we are homo sapiens, human beings here on a singular planet earth. and as human beings, we require air. so if we have a communicable disease, in this case a virus

we know that kids are carriers and the fact that we're now going down with pfizer through the eua.toric moment. >> that was pediatric care physician michael anderson on that major announcement just tonight from the fda on wednesday, the cdc's advisory committee will review the data. could give a final greenlight for emergency use with this pfizer vaccine and children 12 to 15 and if that happens, shots could start going into children's arms as early as thursday of this week. lots of talk about here with us tonight is doctor najib delia, an infectious disease physician. medical director of the special passage and unit of the boston university school of medicine. doctor, how big a deal is this and since we have a lot of parents watching with us tonight, what is the overarching initial advice to parents? >> brian, this is what we were expecting given the fact that pfizer has completed and released top line data that it held up and the study of 2300 kids they saw 60 cases and zero cases of children between 12 to 15 and so that's 100 percent efficacy right there in the trial. it's likel

so much of the same data we saw for adults, much of the same data we've seen for pfizer applied for euaounger people. >> when it comes to vaccinating their kids, pfizer foundation family poll found 29% of parents would get their kids vaccinated right away. that's me. i'm in that group. 32% would wait and see how the vaccine is working. 15% would only get their kids vaccinated if schools required it and 19% of parents would definitely not get their kids vaccinated. what is your reaction to that? >> well, you know, first of all, the 19% number, if you start from the bottom and go to the top, that 19% number tracks with what we see with vaccine hesitancy and reluctance overall, kids or adults. there's 19% of the country that basically says they're just not going to do it. maybe they come over at some point, maybe not. but that sort of tracks. the moveable middle, the middle of that graph that you showed, that's more, obviously, where the target is going to be. i think the case has to be made why vaccinate the kids? haven't we heard kids are less likely to get sick? so why vaccinate them? a

again, people and organizations still can compel people, even under the eua.his will make it more possible, i think, much more likely that lots of organizations, not for profits, businesses, military, et cetera, will begin to say, you can't come to work, you can't come to the office, you need to be vaccinated. i think that will be a really good development, because we have so many people who are still hanging out there waiting for some sort of additional reassurance in order to get the vaccine. >> pfizer is the first. how soon do we think moderna and johnson & johnson -- how soon do we think they follow suit? >> right. they are all on the heels of getting the permanent authorization. i think that will happen one after the other. all of them are preparing the research and documents they need right now. by the way, simultaneously, they are also working on getting approval to start administering the vaccine to children at younger ages. we will see 11, 12 to 15-year-olds eligible very quickly. eventually, hopefully by the end of the summer, we will see the vaccine

for emergency use in people 16 and older so the fda will have to amend the current eua.xpanding the vaccination pool does invite questions, though, about sharing vaccines with other countries. the u.s. is expected to have a vaccine surplus soon, so some medical analysts question whether the supply should be targeted to an age group that appears mostly spared from severe covid-19. >> in the battle of autocracy versus democracy donald trump lost, trumpism did not, and it is trumpism that liz cheney is fighting to save her party from, the kind of stain that mars voting rights and other basic freedoms, she said monday behind closed doors her party cannot accept the, quote, poison of the idea that the 2020 election was to then and should not whitewash the capitol riot or donald trump's role in inciting it. >> the far right is trying to sanitize the terror of january 6th and trump has never stopped pushing his big lie, using statements effectively as tweets just as twitter prepares to announce whether his account will be reinstated. liz cheney is trying to call it out or at le

they will have to mandate it based on eua alone.ols won't mandate it for next fall and by the time they get to next spring but we'll have to see. >> a keiser family foundation say 19% of parents won't let their children get the vaccine at all and is a% said they would vaccinate their kids if schools required it. do you think parents hesitancy will be the next hurdle for us? >> i do, and my sense is that a lot of parents who are not getting themselves vaccinated are probably the same folks who are going to worry about getting their kids vaccinated. i have two kids in this age range and both are excited to get vaccinated but i do understand there's a lot of folks out there that will have questions about safety in kids and we'll have to address those so that's definitely going to be a hurdle in the weeks and months ahead. >> is it the same dosage for kids 11 to is a as for adults? that's a good question. i don't know that it is. i believe it is but i don't know for sure. >> are this make it easier for the united states to get to that 8

the fda's emergency use is not a completely new eua. passed related to pfizer vaccine in december. the cdc advisory group that we expect to meet later today did issue guidance previously so some of that is at play here as to why these states are moving ahead. in georgia speaking with a spokesperson with the department of public health, they said they want to get people vaccinated in this state and try to get people as vaccinated as quick as possible, they felt like this was the right move. craig? >> allison barber in stone crest, georgia. thank you. i want to bring in the medical director of special pathogens unit at boston medical center and msnbc medical contributor. let's start with what we just heard. what do you make of what those parents and kids had to say about getting the vaccine? >> craig, i think the cdc advisory committee is likely to follow the fda's recommendation of the amendment and what i would say is that there's -- in my mind there's four reasons parents should consider vaccinating their concern. one, the safety data

what additional information when a company need to cement beyond what was required for the so-called eua? >> the full licensure is something that a manufacturer submits with a data package. i went to go back to pick up on something that dr. fauci said. these covid-19 vaccines were expedited not by cutting corners but by going through a development plan in which the space that would've been normally not happening was taken away so manufacturing was done all the clinical trials was done. the large programs were of the size of normally license vaccines in the u.s. the one place where we were a little bit short was the duration and safety follow-up but we are confident from the amount of follow-up on this data set for this authorization, that the large majority of adverse events became apparent. we are confident and recommended these vaccines for everyone, our families, all americans. the difference with the biologic license application is that the manufacturers will submit additional safety data, perhaps six months of data, rather than just the two months data, and there are some technical

. >> the eua -- >> under an eua.reduced risk you need to be vaccinated. we're following the local guidance and relying on expert advice. whether that can be distant, they can take it >> you're seeing on the ipo fr front. >> becky, if you think about where we are last year, yes, 2020 it was a really busy year. the rapid slowdown and roughly our busiest month. the market and even on the spac front. >> the sec and the accounting of war rants. it's part of their filings we're excited to see that pick up he'll speak about that >> stacey, great to see you. we look forward to monday. >> thank you i'm excited. >> it is when we come back, in the romo household we take things to the max oh yeah! honey, you still in bed? yep! bye! that's why we love skechers max cushioning footwear. they've maxed out the cushion for extreme comfort. it's like walking on clouds! big, comfy ones! oh yeah! . >> it's a million dollar asset we'll grow that. >> but in terms of that and starting to actually have manufacturers. they're going to come on

when people hear the term they think hydroxychloroquine, approved through an eua to treat covid-19, andfda removed its authorization. so i think it's more of a psychological difference than anything else and it may make a difference in terms of the private sector mandating the vaccine. >> all right, and so i want to come back for one second to the point you made about hydroxychloroquine. i can't pronounce it anymore because i haven't had to say it. that's a good thing. if you look in the anti-vacc community out there, a lot of them, it's wrong, i know you say they're wrong on the science but they say aha, emergency means it was rushed, not safe. not true, but having full approval shoves that argument to the side, right? >> it does, and the vaccine story is so dramatically different from the hoi droksy chloroquine sorry that the two are incomparable. >> listen to dr. scott gottlieb, one of the debates now, we were having a debate months and months ago about what restrictions, how restrictive to be in the covid pandemic. because more americans are getting vaccinated, big debate state to s

president talked about this couple of days ago and he and one when we will see the fda approves the eua for 12 to 15-year-old we will absolutely operationalized and ensure that we are distribute in that vaccine out into the country in a way where we are meeting people where they are, for primary care physicians and pharmacies , humidity health centers and ensuring we get that vaccine and those doses up to a newgroup of americans who might be eligible . >> resident biden has a meeting with congressional leaders. what is he hoping to accomplish ? >> he does have it on may 12, a bicameral bipartisan meeting in the white house. he's hoping to talk about ways we can work together to put people back to work , to ensure we are making our workforce for competitive, competing with china and he knows that the american people elected him to solve problems and to represent and govern for all people and he's hoping that these leaders will come together and join in the oval office to have a discussion about doing that. >> is there a time for that meeting on infrastructure? >> not yet. we're working w

second, the fda took a step yesterday in the fight against covid-19 and expanded the pfizer eua to people ages 12-15. pending the acip recommendation tomorrow, we plan to offer that pfizer vaccine to all young people ages 12-15. right now, the pfizer vaccine is available at many local pharmacies and larger health clinics, and we are working to make smaller trays available so the pfizer vaccine can be administrated by more -- administered by more pediatricians and family doctors and burrell health care providers. by late fall we expect data on the safety and effectiveness of vaccines for children under 12. third, we are planning, and i underscore the word planning, to have booster doses available, if necessary, for the american people. increased age, the natural waning of antibodies over time and new variants increase the probability that boosters may be needed. fourth, it is absolutely essential that we began sharing doses made in the united states with the rest of the world. supplying other nations with vaccines is not just the right thing to do for lifesaving humanitarian purposes, it i

and will be mammy as the first and lax we announced this week will be the second testbed for counter eua as activities. >> thank you, sir. in fiscal 2020 tsa increased its engagement and outreach and obligated over $500 million to small businesses. the largest obligation amount in tsa history. as we all no, small businesses have taken more than their fair challenges throughout this pandemic. can you kindly describe tsa's effort with small business outreach in fiscal 21 and beyond and how your procurement strategies have changed as a result, sir. >> yes, sir. tsa for the first time ever exceeded all her goals and are five goals for small business and 500 summary $6 million that was awarded to small businesses and i cannot underscore enough how important small businesses were to our response to covid-19 and whether it was hand sanitizer or a variety of ppp, small businesses played a very key role in our ability in deploying plastic shielding through out the airports and so again can't underscore enough how important they were and helping protect our officers and the traveling public in res

the emergency authorization, we've seen businesses, universities mandating, so they can even with the euaw with full approval, i think you'll see more companies feel a lot more comfortable mandating they know if they mandate the vaccines, workplace is going to be much safer to return to i do think this will influence a lot of companies and schools to mandate the vaccine in a way that i think will make opening up our country much, much safer. >> yeah, which is what everybody wants, to open it up safely. dr. jha, we appreciate your time this morning thank you so much. >> thank you >>> now to that dramatic end overnight to a hostage standoff at a bank in st. cloud, minnesota, that played out over more than eight long hours nbc's kathy park joins us with the latest on this good morning to you. >> reporter: craig, good morning to you yeah, this tense and frightening ordeal all started pretty much in the middle of the day, when police responded to a report of a possible robbery incredibly, after it all ended, best possible outcome they could have had. eight hours of terror ending in relief, aft

so many women elected, after the eua, to get vaccinated. there was about 115,000 to 120,000 of these pregnancies and there have been about 5000 to 6000 of the births now followed by the cdc and fda. as alluded to by dr. collins, there is no red flag signal, at all, if there is any concern about deleterious effects of the vaccine on pregnant women. this is important, because the one thing we know for sure is that when pregnant women get infected with covid-19, they could have a serious deleterious outcome. rep. moolenaar: thank you for that. i think that message is really important to get that out there. i appreciate hearing that directly from you. i want to talk a little bit about patent protection. dr. collins, maybe you could answer this question. there has been discussion, and i believe the biden administration recently announced it will support waving intellectual property protections for covid-19 vaccines. i think everyone wants to see these vaccines readily available and the supply. the concern about waving the patent rights for these

so, the fact that we're now going down to age 12 with pfizer through the eua, this is literally a historico, tell me what people should know about the thoroughness of these trials. and i ask that as someone very aware that we live in a country with, unfortunately, some politically influenced belief systems around vaccine safety. just give us the facts. >> yeah. we do know that, unfortunately, it has become politicized and i can tell you that the fda has put these vaccines through a very rigorous process. they have approved them under what's called an emergency use authorization, meaning that the evidence far shows benefits outweighing any minimal side effects or minimal downside to them, and the fact that once again we're able to get these vaccines into more kids brings us back to normalcy. we're going to have to do more research because what about the 11-year-olds? what about the 10-year-olds? once again, if we're going to be an immunized community, we've got to get more and more kids vaccinated, and i know the companies are looking at that. but the bottom line is, these are safe vaccines

vaccine in terms of the new data, will it be anything different in terms of a regular approval versus the euahat's what -- i was hoping for that answer. let me bris in the panel tash-bring in the panel here, angela, jump in. angela: dr. adalja, i want to raise something here that the cdc guidance actually has carve-outs that says masks are stillness on public transport and on airplanes. in your view is scientific or are these exemptions a little about hygiene theater and less about what's actually needed. >> it's probably more about operations because if you're a flight attendant, i don't think you can be expected to look at everybody's vaccine certificate and because people are so cramped together in, for example, a bus or on a subway or a train or a plane, the stakes are higher. we're going on the honor system but it's much different if you're doing the honor system in a place where people can be six feet apart than when they're under. ed together-together on public transportation. i think you will see the overall mask guidance change as more and more people get vaccinated. i think as we hi

she, was on her phone and she went into it and she did a facebook search of the term crews for tara euar crossing united states of america. she tapped 1 and a whole bunch of other pages came up. she has written a letter to mark zuckerberg saying hey, you are supporting a criminal testimony organization. ainsley: it came to our attention she tweeted this out. instead of censorships conservatives let's take on cartels. i attached screen shots of ads i personally found with a simple search for passage to the united states. their role in the crisis at the border is urgent and must be addressed immediately. she says she takes issue with them silencing conservatives with them shadow banning different people, you, who might like someone's page that's a conservative. this is affecting every single person. she takes issue with them doing that yet, allowing these cartels and allowing these human smugglers to talk to kids, talk to parents and say i will get your child across. i will get your family across. and she are allow to arrange payment through facebook as well. steve: that's the important p

i think the fda should not expand the vaccine under the eua for young children.to be vaccinated or of wearing masks. i can tell you the science says the exact opposite. >> so why the push? why all the focus on children. let's bring in another parent, michael is a father as well. michael, thank you for joining us here now. what do you think of the push to have children either vaccinated or masked? >> i've always believed in medical freedom. i think the parents know best and it's up to us parents to make the choice in terms of what's the most appropriate thing. fundamental health decisions to government officials. we really need to have personal responsibility, personal accountability. >> these are some of the same politicians, the same government officials that shut down schools for, in many places, for over a year. and now we're learning the cost of some of those shutdowns. take a look at this, this is according to a recent study. we're expected in one projection a 3.6% decrease in gdp by 2050 and 3.5% decrease in hourly wages by 2050. that's the cumulative effec

grandfather of a 14-year-old wondering same question yes so i know did submit their data and seeking euaafter kids at 12 to 15 fda has been looking at it. i think that took fda two weeks with the adult data before they convene their advisory committee and have public discussion. but it has been a little longer than that. i don't have insight into what's happening -- in the internal workings of the fda they've been busy with j&j circumstance. but i'm hopeful as you are that they will come forward pretty soonms with a rendering of a document here and they have to convene their public committee so everybody gets to look at this. obviously everybody wants to be sure we're talking care there's no new safety concern there. but yeah. wouldn't it be great if we could do that and not have to wait until the fall when school starts up and gets started now this summer. immunizing high school and middle school kids too i would love it. >>l sure would be nice summer camp is coming up. so i have another question for you because we're doing our own research here, israel is a country that has medical rec