that is because we have the eua for adults on december 14, 2020, and we only got the eua for 12 to 15-year-old around may 10. remember, we need longer-term safety data to fully approve, and it is fair to get more time for the 12to 15-year-olds to have longer-term safety data. there are rare cases of myocarditis, heart inflation and young adult males, especially with the second dose. it is mild but it is the right thing to do to wait longer before they give them full approval for the 12 to 15-year-olds. it does seem like they -- but they need to follow them up. what does it mean for approval? i think you will be approval in november for 5 to 11-year-olds it will be eua around october because they had to expand the 5 to 11-year-old, the fda asked them to expand the number in trial so that we can be reassured of the safety. it's going to be october when we get the eua for 5 to 11-year-old . julian: a lot of parents at home are waiting to hear the answer to that question. before you get shot, the mask, you best protection against covid-19. we know they have been mandated indoors but are y

plan on 9-11-year-olds getting the eua next. ? we appreciate your time tonight. >>> we asked you what you thought about tod's full approval of the vaccine. we posted it and abbey joins us with some responses. >> the question we posted asks, do you think the fda approval will change the push to get everyone vaccinated. most of our viewers seem to think the full approval won't change the minds of many, but some say they will be g fda approved. this one says she's not an anti-vaxxer, and she says she's getting all the vaccines all the time but was firm on not getting this vaccine until it was fda approved. and another person on facebook, mike kreger is saying this may push those who were on the fence over to the side of vaccination, but for the hard-core science denier, they will simply come up with something else now that they can't call it experimental anymore. ronda valdez says she doesn't trust anything mass made in a few short months and no, she's not an anti-vaxxer, she just doesn't trust it. some of my friends were making for

larry: eua is emergency use authorization. more than 221 million or 22 point one million californians are fully vaccinated. that's 56% of the states entire population. california's seven-day test positivity rate has dropped to 5.4%. last week's low was 6.1. so, improving. and■barth hit a milestone, carrying more than 100,000 riders on a single day. that is the highest number ever. ama: the city of anousha is considering breaking with solano county and mandating masks indoors for everyone, regardless of vaccination status. it's a popular move for some people, not so much with others. here is the story. >> officially recall of anousha. officially we could call it 3% land. that is how it has compared with solano county, which has the highest covid rate in the bay area. his 3% good enough? the mayor says, no. >> i am frustrated. we are back at a point where we were a year ago and in the country, and the state, if everybody had been vaccinated, if everybody was wearing a mask, we would have this in the rearview mirror. >> tomorrow

and the euas here are for adults and children 12 years of age and older who weigh at least 88 pounds. there are three of them. there's the lilly product the bamlanivimab plus etesevimab. there's the regeneron project product, referred to as regen-cov. and then there's the gsk and vir product. each of these products targets the spike protein of sars-cov-2. next slide. so, you can do an indication for these antibodies that are twofold. the first is to treat infection with sars-cov-2. next slide. and in this regard, clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-sars-cov-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of covid-19 hospitalization or death by 70 to 85 percent. it is important to emphasize that this must be done early in infection and not wait, of course, until a person is sick enough to be hospitalized. that's when you get the best effect. and again, being an underutilized intervention, we want people out there, including physicians, as well as potential patients, to realize the advantage of this very effective way of treating early infection. next slide. now

there's nothing in the law that says an eua is different.re's nothing in the law that says just because it's an eua means that somehow it can't be a requirement. it can't be mandated. in fact the justice department looked at this over 18 pages and said, no, it's actually just fine. so, i think a lot of people are hoping that the fda actually approves these vaccines so that more people will feel confident, but right now there's nothing in the law saying that the eua makes any difference at all. >> laura jarrett, attorney at all. >> i still pay dues. >> kevin mccarthy under fire for a joke about hitting nancy pelosi. >>> and the senate puts the finishing touches on a long-awaiting trillion dollar infrastructure deal, but will more spending help or hurt democrats in the midterms? what happens when we welcome change? we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive tha

we are expecting eua approval any day now.ians already have infrastructure to be able to vaccinate children quickly and effectively. i think it is going to be very simple to layer on vaccinations for children. we have already seen children ages 12 to 16, that the capacity was there. >> dr. hansoti, to put a bow on the conversation around vaccination, you talked about the increase in death rate and i'm wondering if the research is showing a higher vera lentz of the delta -- virulence of the delta variant even though there is greater immunity in the general population. dr. hansoti: this data is very tricky. the best data comes from a scottish study but it puts the alpha virus against the delta virus and they found that individuals did need increased hospitalization, younger individuals were more likely, including children. they did not show deaths. i think delta is likely to give you more complications, more likely to need oxygen, but whether you are more likely to die is unclear. tom: dr. hansoti, with johns hopkins university.

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we do expect that the manufacturer, at least pfizer is apparently going to apply for an eua as earlyst part of september for children under the age of 12. >> also, dr. reiner, sorry, something was in my ear. appreciate your time. thank you so much. >>> look at this now. people in florida lining up at a makeshift clinic offering a antibody treatment. it comes as texas' governor republican governor, who also is getting the same antibody treatment after testing positive this week is adding more treatment centers in the state. so, what is this antibody treatment? elizabeth is "outfront" with more. >> that is a tool in the tool box that really needs to be used. >> reporter: florida governor ron desantis and texas governor greg abbott have been talking a lot lately about this medicine. >> the regeneron has been found to be effective against the delta variant. >> reporter: a monoclonal antibody drug made by regeneron is a treatment for covid-19. a treatment that is needed in large part because under these two republican governors, covid-19 is spreading fast in their states. florida number o

whether you have an eua that goes to full approval might have an influence that goes on.tory decision, we're collecting the data right now for what we need to make that determination and would be a regulatory decision. >> all right. i understand. i appreciate your time as always dr. fauci, thank you. >> good to be with you, thank you for having me. >> all right. you, too. >>> the senate unanimously rewarding the congressional gold medal today to the officers that defended the capitol against an angry mob of trump supporters on january 6th. >> those medals, when little kids walk by and see them at the smithsonian, their parents will be able to tell them this happened. this attack happened. >> and that's important because former president trump and his followers and congress continue to try to say that this didn't happen and didn't all see with our own eyes the violent mob attack on the capitol that injured 140 officers and a bunch of tourists. tonight, we're learning of another tragedy linked to that day. a fourth police officer who responded to the capitol on january 6th

announced a couple of weeks ago that until the vaccine is approved and completely out from under the eua, that we have a phased-in approach requiring our employees and students are vaccinated or wearing n95 masks. once the vaccine is out from under the eua and fully approved from the fda, then we will require it just like we do with a lot of other vaccinations. but it is tough. it is a tough sell in this state. >> you know, normally people also have a really strong feeling about staying alive, right, and keeping their kids alive. i honestly -- and i don't mean to say that to be facetious. i cannot understand these sort of vehemence and rage around being told just do this thing to keep yourself safe, wear a mask or get vaccinated. at least wear a mask. as a, you know, as somebody you said on the medical side of the world, can you understand why someone would take such a hard-core, angry opposition to staying safe and alive? >> you know, we've got a lot of folks in mississippi that still have questions about the safety of the vaccine. we are doing -- and i say we meaning dr. dobbs, our sta

silver lining for parents worried about under 12- year-olds, we just got news that the fda approval, or eua is probably going to be sooner than we think amma which will be in september rather than october. >> this weekend will be the final few days of summer break for more than 36,000 students in the oakland unified school district. >> district leaders say they're trying to make the classrooms as safe as possible. kpix 5's katie nielsen is live at oakland tech high school, where the district is hosting a vaccine clinic tonight. >> juliette, ousd, in conjunction with kaiser permanente, set up this pop-up covid clinic on the same day as the open house for incoming students here at oakland tech. district leaders say they're trying to make it as easy as possible for students, teachers, and any members of the community to get vaccinated, if they haven't already. one parent we talked with said she would have been able to get her son vaccinated sooner, if the school did not tonight. >> i work two jobs and it's really hard. i wanted him to get vaccinated earlier but we just really couldn't find the

the american academy of pediatricians already is hoping for a rapid turnaround to the eua, so that's kind of where we are. moderna will follow later on. >> the timeline, the fda takes a month or so to evaluate whether or not they can actually administer to kids, is that about right? >> it's about a month. many people hoping sooner. >> today the state reported more than 10,000 new cases of coronavirus. we are also seeing a downward trend on the seven-day positivity rate. i know you don't have a crystal ball and all this, but can you tell us more about these latest numbers, and what local hospitals are seeing? are we at the tail end of this? >> i think first of all we are seeing a slight dip in number of new cases per day in much of the bay area. hopefully that trend will continue. the absolute level still high, so that's why we are seeing spillover in the kid population. as that number continues to go down, we will see fewer cases with kids. the hospitalizations are actually the same for the level and going down slightly, so we haven't seen that doomsday hospitalization surge, knock o

silver lining for parents worried about under 12- year-olds, we just got news that the fda approval, or eua, is probably going to be sooner than we think, which will be in september rather than october. >> say that again, for kids under 12? >> we are likely to see an approval sooner than we thought by the end of september, rather than october, for pfizer. >> for pfizer, okay. good to know. thank you as always, you give us such great information. appreciate that. have a great weekend and we will see you soon. dr. peter chin-hong, appreciate it. >>> new numbers show how the delta variant is driving a surge in covid cases. ken bastida in the newsroom with the very latest on that. >> cdc says the daily covid-19 cases have reached their highest total since february, and the number of new cases topped 106,000 yesterday. and experts expect the numbers will only rise in the face of large events like the sturgis motorcycle rally. that kick off in south dakota today. last year it became a super spreader event. >> we have every reason to believe that this year is going to be just as bad, if not worse.

i would imagine knowing the differences in time of the submission of their eua it will be a month or so. >> how close would this approval and the two other approvals that are likely to be forthcoming soon, how close are we to getting back to some sense of normalcy there are fewer guidelines and we don't think of the coronavirus on a daily basis? >> you know, that's going to be up to us and when i say up to us, i mean it's how many people get vaccinated. how many people step up and say, you know, we have had enough of this. we've got to put an end to this terrible outbreak that's completely disrupted our lives. >> what is that threshold? >> so we have the vaccines available. you know, the threshold is something that we don't know, and the reason i say we don't know it is because you have to get to a situation like with measles where you were like way 90 plus percent were vaccinated and got the kind of what we call herd immunity. you know what that number is because when it gets below that number, you start to see outbreaks like we saw some time ago in the new york city area with the c

one of them is to do an eua, an emergency use authorization, we're all hoping that will be as we geto see how that goes with the fda. >> as we look at the big picture, dr. fauci, what is your snapshot as you look at the data, cases, hospitalizations across the country, about where we are right now? i think there's a feeling when the vaccine came through, this is it. this is the beginning of the end, let's get vaccinated, back to regular life in the fall and along came the delta variant, with as you said, significant numbers of americans not vaccinated. what is your sense of where we are as a country right now with this pandemic? >> well, we're in a difficult situation right now, as you look at the numbers, the number of new cases we're approaching 200,000 a day, between 100 and 200,000 a day. hospitals have increased, deaths have increased. however, what we're seeing is that mostly that those when you talk about serious disease, that's almost exclusively, not entirely, but almost exclusively among the unvaccinated. so when you ask where we are right now it's what i said some time ago

wait until they have enough data accumulated to be safe enough to start that go signal to start that euaheard a lot of time estimates. i will tell you friends of mine who work inside the fda say they are doing it as soon as they can safely but it won't be in time for schools to open. if you pushed, december, january, maybe. that's why we need to talk about masks. >> the covid again on the rise and children preparing to return to in-person learning, we're answering your back to school questions. we're going to have our experts answer as many as they can live on friday 11:00 a.m. eastern. >>> she is about to become the most powerful explosion on new york state. up next on kathy hochul, her background and how she distanced himself from governor cuomo, next. distanced himself from governor cuomo, next no. nope. no way. but then helen went from no to know with freestyle libre 14 day, now she knows what activity helps lower her glucose. and can see what works best for her. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. freestyle libre 14 day. now covered by medi

there will be booster shots available for others then immunocompromised, it's important but it'll be a euaoster at that point it does take time to go through. liz: understood, we have a lot of people watching who got the single shot j&j vaccine obviously there will have to be a booster shot for that as well are they working on that development? >> i can assure you all three companies not included the u.s. for all the companies are recognizing the need for boosters to occur with every vaccine don't get me wrong but we have too much to lose not to have maximum immunity generated by the vaccine. liz: the surgeon general vivek murthy has talked about the one shot booster vaccine as we move forward in all of this do you believe that the fda full approval of the pfizer vaccine is what sparked the company's disney or chevron or cvs to finally feel free to say we will mandate the vaccine, what kind of role did the fda approval play in freeing up the corporations to do so? >> it's a very interesting question and of course i don't work for those companies i can't tell you exactly what they're thinki

. >> right now, the fda is now looking at the j&j, the approval, the eua, and how that would fit. and we are not forgetting at all about the people with j&j. president biden also escalated his confrontation with republican governors over school mask mandates. he was direct about it. president said he has directed the education department to use all means necessary to help local officials enact those measures. with that, let's introduce the starting line on this wednesday night, lisa lerer national political correspondent for the new york times, retired four star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey decorated former battlefield -- former member of the nationally security council. and irwin redlener founding director of a columbia university's the national -- professor of pediatrics at albert einstein college of medicine. good evening and welcome to you all. general given, i would like to begin with you. 15,000 americans left in afghanistan, what do you make of the presidents comments of staying beyond 31 august if necessary, and i don't mean this in any way but seriously, are we askin

boosters because they're hearing about this, the explanation why johnson & johnson is not in the mix the euar the mrna vaccines and the number of individuals who received johnson & johnson numbers 14 million as opposed to about 155 million people who got the mrna vaccines and some of the earliest, people in nursing homes and compromised immunity. >> the administration will begin efforts to deliver booster shots to people in long-term care facilities, et cetera. everyone was getting first two shots, huge convention centers open, drive-through shot vaccination locations people could go to. who needs to happen in order for everybody to get boosters in the time frame the administration is recommending from a logistics standpoint? it higtd be a lift. >> hallie we had the mass vaccination centers, tents set up and crowds and long hours people complaining they couldn't get vaccinations. that was a trial run. they have leeway and head space here and time to be able to figure this out. long-term care facilities making plans to move into there now. the manufacturers said they have plenty of vaccine av

that suggested that not only were boosters necessary or inevitable, that they were moving towards an euam cdc, not from corporate press releases. the first group that should be boosted are folks who are immunocompromised either because of they are getting cancer, chemotherapy, or an organ trance 34r5 transplant recipient. i recently sent a patient to a pharmacy with documented zero antibody response, this is a patient who has had an organ transplant, and multiple pharmacies refused to give him a booster shot. it is time for the cdc to lay out a plan and i think you are right, i think that the immunocompromised first and then probably the elderly and then maybe health care workers, et cetera. >> and even san francisco now saying people who had the j&j shot can essentially get a booster of pfizer or moderna which i think is pretty telling. >> and frustrating too when you hear about so many vaccines expiring and getting thrown out. so obviously there is the supply, there just needs to be this approval. and also, when it comes to schools, what advice do you have for parents of young children

by saying it is easier to mandate a vaccine when it is fully fda approval but not impossible under a eua to say it is okay to mandate the vaccine even under that. once fully approved mandates will come up more than already coming and mandates from many school districts. the other thing that happens once the vaccine has full approval is, number 1, the company can actually advertise on television which they can't right now and number 2, they can sell the vaccine. right now you cannot buy a vaccine. once this is approved then you can get the vaccine as pfizer or cvs or walgreen's pharmacy. >> correct me if i am wrong, doctors a little more control, they can administer the vaccine. does that mean a doctor could decide administer a fully fda approved vaccine to a child under 12? >> you know that could happen, i think that would be going outside of the approval of the vaccine and i think that hopefully will not happen. but what could certainly happen is people start administering booster shots and third shots to many people because no one will stop you from doing that. >> you wrote a interesti

it looks like pfizer is expecting to file for an eua for 12 and under sometime toward the end of september and we'll probably see that also in tears. probably 5-12 would be the first group. and then 2-5 and then six months through two years of age. look. we already have this vaccine approved for 12 and up. only about a third of our adolescents have been vaccinated. we still have a tremendous. a work to do to get everyone eligible, which soon in the united states will be basically everyone, vaccinated. >> do you think, do you really think fda approval will make that big a difference in convincing people to get the vaccine? >> i think there are all kinds of ways to get more people of i think fda approval will sway the people who are, some people who are on the fence. it is mandates, more and more corporations now are mandating vaccines. i think venues, restaurants, music venues, potentially even airlines. we've seen in canada, you can't fly in canada without being vaccinated. all of these incentives or even negative incentives or sticks, essentially, will convince more and more people. we tr

they say it's only released through eua. on the other talking points. the good news, though, i think it will have a big impact on employer mandates, federal mandates and the u.s. military and that will move the needle but how far that's going to take us, i don't know. 80 million is a big number, don. we got 80 million people who are defying refusing vaccines and how far the mandates will go is unclear, as well. and the numbers are daunting because we have to pretty much have all of the adults and adolescents vaccinateed to stop this virus. this will be the challenge closing that 80 million gap. >> good segway to the question i want to ask now is that dr. fauci was on with my colleague anderson earlier tonight. he says that if most people eligible people got vaccinated or get vaccinated, that we could have this under control by 2022. okay? so we have been at this since march of 2020 and really, what is it going to take? >> actually, i agree with tony. i degree with dr. fauci, we could have -- we could be out of this by the en

. >> right now, the fda is now looking at the j&j, the approval, the eua, and how that would fit in. we're not forgetting at all about the people with j&j. >> president biden also escalated over school mandates today. the president said he directed the education department to use all means necessary to help local officials enact those measures. well, with that, let's introduce the starting line on this wednesday night. the national political correspondent for the "new york times." retired four star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, decorated veteran of vietnam. former cabinet member, former member of the national security council, and the founding director of columbia university's national center for disaster prepareness. he advises us on public else. also a professor of pediatrics at the albert einstein college of medicine. given the topic at hand, i would like the begin. but 15,000 americans left in afghanistan. what do you make. president's comments of staying beyond 31 august, if necessary. and i don't mean this any way but seriously, are we asking the taliban or telling the tal

emergency use and do everything humanly possible to approximate the full approval process through the euand they did it. and the fact now that we're moving to full approval is an extraordinary statement about how hard people at fda really work to make this happen. you know, we like to throw stones at our government agencies. this is one time where things went really well. >> and i have to say, not a moment too soon. especially where you are. dr. hotez, along the gulf coast where the hospitals are all just filling up with covid patients, almost all of them unvaccinated. hopefully this can help turn things around in the next few months. as always, thank you for everything you're doing. thanks, dr. hotez. >> thank you. >>> the disaster in afghanistan president biden now dealing with the political fallout. why are so many trump officials lining up to blame their former boss? reality check next. [relaxed summer themed music playing] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ summer is a state of mind, you can visit anytime. savor your summer with lincoln. when i get a migraine, i shut out the world. but with nurtec odt

this vaccine is an eua, merge use authorization only which requires under the law informed consent.re giving informed consent when you're forced to take the vaccine. let people be fired and sue. that is class-action lawsuit waiting to happen. i want people to go back to work. i'm not advocating against that. i'm saying businesses don't have the authority they think they have especially at the current status of this vaccine not being fda approved. so the problem that you have with joe biden, he thinks that he doesn't understand economics. he thinks he can lean over into a microphone to say, pay them more. let me explain something. the market dictates what a job is worth. if you have to raise the job pay to so high that your business is no longer profitable you're going to go out of business. that is how these things work, mr. joe biden. that is how these things work. you can't just say let's arbitrarily pay more. employers don't have the benefit of printing debt like you're doing saying it can all work out. that is not reality after business owner. that is ridiculous. janet yellen go

sarah, afghan president ashraf ghani ghani turned up to the eua accused of taking millions of dollars in cash with him. this was the guy that was supposed to be clean, he was the guy that was gonna fix afghanistan, to technocrat the economist and it looks like he may have just been as corrupt as anyone before him. we talk about the afghan military's fault. but how much is afghans leadership in 20 years to blame for this debacle now? >> afghan political leadership and the incentive structure that the united states and many of its international allies put in place, we set up an incentive structure that were awarded the most corrupt and again i beg to differ with you tommy, a lot of us, it's not in hindsight, a lot of us had been talking about pakistan and corruption for years. that inter -- >> there's nothing we could've done about it, or else they would've done it. >> sorry? >> i think what was lacking for the solutions. it's not that there weren't any ideas -- >> i'm sorry tommy, the number of plans the, number of extremely explicit governance campaign plans that were put forth, i mea

risk that potentially don't have -- they're not immunocompromised, the group that already had that eua to use that booster. that's one way you could see that change. i do want to mention one thing to dr. custer's point, it's important to note the south opened up earlier and you saw rsv cases going up there. now you're seeing the changes in behavior, new york city, new york state actually, had a similar rsv advisory in the last week or so. and the concern that we have for adults is very similar to what we saw with kids, is that the flu last year was low because our mitigation strategies were helping with that and the concern is that this fall, with adults as well, the respiratory viruses, influenza, may be more severe. when you combine that with covid, it may be even more severe. a study from the uk last fall said if you get both the flu or covid your chances of passing away are twice as high. so get vaccinated and use those masks indoors, as dr. custer said. >> and dr. custer, real quickly, there in maryland, have you seen an uptick in vaccinations? i know 60% of the population is vacc

the eua's were issued. the mass distribution of the vaccine, terrific job.e the acceptance of the vaccine for those that have not been vaccinated and whom better to trust than the physician? we know that well over 70% of normal vaccines, the variation of the kinds of vaccine are administered in physician's offices. pediatricians are administering these normal vaccines. it's a whole variety of vaccines we need to get these vaccines into the hands of physicians right now, it is very difficult for office-based practitioners, physicians to access these vaccines. covid vaccines. liz: yeah, i mean, given the choice, a lot of people who are weary would say i'd rather get it from my family physician than some random person at a pharmacy which i certainly appreciate. i would have no problem with that but some people are worried about concerned. talk to me, if you could, about your ppe sales. you were among the largest when it comes to ppe and distribution have you seen an increase in requests for sales of that, or talk to me if you seen any kind of heightening post-p

vaccine, the fda coming out saying as much, off label uses of vaccine are now possible versus during the euaating, us talking about what we'd like to see. now a doctor can say you know what, we can use the pfizer vaccine off label to boost up a one-shot jnj. that is now possible in a way it wasn't just seven days ago. this is going to be more psychology than science. there are people out there, i've spoken to several this morning, who say you know what, because of the reputation of the johnson & johnson vaccine, all these rare side effects that have been noted with it, now people say i want a shot of pfizer or moderna as a boost, they should be allowed to get that. i'd like to see a formalized process where people are explained the risks and benefits. they recognize that clinical trial of mixing and matching is still underway, but based on what we're seeing, that they should be able to do that off label. >> dr. gupta, if somebody has gotten the one, say you did the second shot with pfizer. would you then go on a pfizer protocol after that and basically then get a second shot, three to four w

there are children from 12 to 15 who are covered by the eua. and then you have the full approval of 16 and older. the question that people ask appropriately is what about 11 down to 5 and even lower, namely the elementary school kids who everyone really wants to get under the veil of protection of a vaccine. right now we at the nih, the companies are all doing studies to do what we all age de-escalation, looking at 11 to 9, 9 to 6, 6 to 2, and then 6 months to 2 years. we're collecting safety data and we're collecting immunogenicity data. we'll have enough data to present to the cdc by mid-fall or so, september, october, for pfizer. a little later for moderna. the fda has the task, which they did so bell now with the bla of looking at the data and making a risk benefit analysis. is the risk of the unusual and rare adverse event, is that worth it because of the benefit that children will get from the vaccine at their particular age group. and that's going to be a regulatory decision. >> how long would that be? >> well, that could be a couple of

everything is on track to get all three eua vaccine approved products onboard for full approval in theourse wait for other approvals for let's say the boost shot or for getting children under the age of 12 vaccinated. all this is coming and hopefully if we're lucky all those approves will be in pocket by the end of this year, josh. >> and very briefly before i have to let you go we're watching hurricane ida as it makes its way toward the gulf coast. i understand you ran a clinic after hurricane katrina on the ground in the gulf coast. and i wonder what your biggest concerns are now ahead of the hurricane before we go. >> yeah, well, actually my program at columbia and the childrens health front brought in five mobile health clinics into the area. and i think the big problem then of course was the failing of the levees that allowed the lake to spill over and flood many, many communities especially low income communities in new orleans. hopefully the levees that were upgraded after katrina will hold tight and we won't get that kind of flooding, but we're expecting a category 4 landfall f

little bit -- going to stand up well, though the courts have found mandatory vaccine orders based on an euais much more a psychological boost than a legal one for mandatory vaccines. >> when it comes to the states that have low vaccine uptake that are receiving, that are experiencing such a terrible influx right now, i'm happy to see federal resources, including active duty military, uniformed resources deployed to states like mississippi and louisiana who so clearly need them. it does feel like a drop in the bucket, though. 20 workers here, a handful of doctors there. given the scale of the problem and how the case numbers are continuing to rise in these states where the hospitals are already overrun, is the federal government going to have to ramp up its ability to help in those overrun states? do we have other resources we can bring to bear? >> yeah, so first and foremost, it's worth remembering this is all completely preventable. if people had gotten vaccinated, we would not be seeing this. we're not seeing this in vermont, we're not seeing it in massachusetts. second, you're absolutely

who are vulnerable need to go ahead and get that antibody therapy, it can be given as outpatient and eua was just updated if you're vulnerable and exposed, you are able to get the therapy early because it's so effective. that's exactly what trump got and that's why he had such a great outcome. >> dr. ashby, thank you. i want to go back to the news that we started talking about at the top of the broadcast. nbc news has now confirmed that "new york times" reported the city of new york will now require proof of vaccination for indoor activities like for example going to restaurants, going to the gym. our sources at nbc news we can confirm that that is what we expect to hear from mayor bill de blasio coming up in a couple of minutes. he was supposed to start just to let our viewers know, speak being 12 minutes ago. that news conference is obviously running a little bit late. we're keeping an eye on that. this is significant because we've seen corporate america do this. we've seen some private companies, gyms, et cetera, require proof of vaccination. think of theme parks, et cetera, to be abl

. >> so i wonder the eu -- let's talk about the eua.s you mention, it sounds like that's a moot point. why are you bringing that up? because if the fda is expected to have full authorization for the pfizer vaccine, come labor day and this is a november 1st deadline, it seems like an issue that's being brought up that's actually a nonissue. >> well, i think that it is an issue with the people that haven't had the vaccine yet, brianna. in all fairness, i do believe that we do have some people that are still concerned and whether or not it's going to impact them or not. a lot of people feel as though the vaccine was somewhat rushed. i don't have to be one of those folks. most of my local presidents around the country don't either. we did have, in fact, have a meeting with our locals yesterday. we had this discussion. it was raised and leads from the information that they received from their membership about the concerns that they had about it. so, i don't want to discount that, and while -- we certainly do. there are other people that need

yes, i agree, look, it's been eight months since the eua, eight months more since the rigorous process to vet the quality of the vaccine, the manufacturing of the vaccine as dr. john pointed out. last week, i saw a patient in the office for the first time. she is a health care worker and she was hospitalized for covid-19 and still only agreed to get vaccinated basically because she required it for her job and that was again someone who was in the health care worker force. in spite of having access to all of the data that we in the medical profession and what we're trying to communicate to our viewers and patients every single day, there are still those folks who are so deeply entrenched in their mistrust and their hesitancy. if they already didn't trust the process, i don't necessarily see how this makes them trust it any more because it's still the same government agency, you know, green lighting something that they were already reluctant to do in the first place. >> well, i appreciate that. and that's important, right, we want to be candid about this. that's why we rely on you guys.

emergency use as the emergency escalates there should be more urgency with getting fda approval or eua children. with regard to what puts them at risk, you know, the more people get this, the more we learn and the more we see hospitalized. and, again, children under 12, they don't even have an option of getting vaccinated. we don't know yet if this variant is more dangerous, there is some evidence that it is, though. so if you have a combination of -- and more dangerous, that is -- that's really -- it is worrisome for this pediatrician and should worry families, particularly those children under 12 who don't have the option of being vaccinated. >> just like you mentioned, you know, we're worried about our kids, schools are going back into session right now across the country. there is this big debate over mask mandates. i want it play for you something that republican congressman madison cawthorn said about school mask mandate during a school board meeting in north carolina. >> you have sacrificed the social, emotional and psychological development of our children on the altar of woken

i think it sets a dangerous precedent doing federal mandate or requirements on something under an eua. at this point, only pfizer has submitted for the full fda approval. insiders at pfizer think that the full fda approval and adult will come in early fall. >> what do you mean haven't submitted. why wouldn't they? >> welcome to healthcare and bureaucracy, but there are abou 1,000 pages worth of paperwork that need to be submitted. the good news is they have the data at this point because they've had the time, they've had millions upon millions across the world that have gotten it so they have the data it's just a matter of doing the paperwork. that one of the biggest achilles' heel in healthcare these days break again sure tha shocking for a lot of people to hear. great to have you. >> major u.s. cities fit facing another summer weekend marred b violence. in chicago police a 51 people, 51 were shot, 42 of them were wounded, and eight we're killed. in new orleans shooting yesterday in the morning i-5 people injured. tourists as you can see had to scramble for safety as the shot rang ou

from what i can tell, it looks like pfizer will come forth with eua application for kids down to aget to make sure we have enough data. the american academy pediatric put out pieces of, we also have to get this vaccine into kids. once again we are seeing more kids hospitalized with covid. you and i talked about the rare multi system inflammatory system in children. every pediatrician in this country is advocating for of course we want to be safe but we got to get this vaccine by the fall. >> every mom and dad as well. michael anderson, thank you so much for spending some time with us. quick break for us. we'll be on the other side. k brs we'll be on the other side in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right, that's why there's only one best network. at usaa, we've been called too exclusive. because we were created for officers. but as we've evolved with the military, we've grown to serve all who've h

to grant full approval for pfizer vaccine and biontech they're currently being administered under an eua we'll see whether that increases the pace at which we're vaccinating people that are still unvaccinated. >> younger kids, is that still the holdup >> there are too many unvaccinated people. i'm not saying it in a political or geographic way. there are places and not only does it potentially cause hot spots for the virus but it is a breeding ground for new variants which could affect people that are already vaccinated we're going to be doing this again and again and again. >> you think the full approval is going to change that situation? >> that's the question, whether people then say -- i'm not sure it will. if you can't figure out that the potential side effects versus what happens with covid -- for me it was so -- you read about long haulers, you read about icus, ventilators, not coming off ventilators, side -- all those things and then to take that off the table mostly. it's up to your immune system. that's what we have to keep stressing to people. this is not a therapeutic. it doe

so hopefully about a week and a half past labor day that's when you'll see the eua updated for 5 andhan that, i don't think that's going to happen until later into the winter, early 2022. >> dr. vin gupta, thank you so much for coming on the show this morning. we'll see you again soon. >>> we'll turn to alabama now where the delta variant cases are spiking. but suddenly so are vaccinations. alabama still has the lowest vaccination rate in the country but the cdc reported a 63% rise in the number of residents getting vaccinated last week. that is so hopeful. it came after the state's republican governor, kay ivey, tore into alabama's unvaccinated population saying they were to blame for the rise in cases. let's bring in professor of medicine at the university of alabama birmingham, dr. michael sagg. he has a new op-ed in "the washington post," this time around alabama is facing the two-front war. what is it? >> it's the virus, we've just been talking about that, the second war is against misinformation. that's the reason why people aren't getting vaccinated. i had a patient this week,