>> eugene robertson is here to talk with us and mike murphy. an importantly the co-host of the podcast with david axelrod. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. is there is any real risk to the democratic party by doing this. >> the guy? minnesota voted against, it is interesting. he's the farmer's friends and he's unbeatable. he could pay a price for going against impeachment. his activist in a tough race are going to hold it against him. there are a couple who are in those district and they're going to bend the politics. >> eugene, the topic came up

when they were they were given to fascist parents and so going to school is back actually to nazi eugenic fear reads and so there was a spanish psych psychiatrist named antonio but i don't know her and he studied the nazi eugenics programs and published books and his work led to the creation of a law in 1901 that actually allowed babies to be taken from republican mothers at the time who were in jail and given to families that were loyal to the regime and what's believed to have happened is that all over the decades this practice evolved and moved from the politically unfit to the more of the unfits of families that may have had true many children or single mother which itself could be seen as political in which other could a seen as but this killer in jail or the 1980s so in the film we see the case of maria bueno who gave birth in la linea in south of spain. in 1981 and so the idea is and she states powerfully in the film when the dictatorship stops those mechanisms don't just switch off and gathering all this evidence from all across spain for the tiniest villages to the cities that go

. >> joining us now, reporter for the "washington post," eugene scott, you have it right there, you gone, a lot of talk about the president last night on the debate stage along with impeachment. based on your reporting, how important is the issue of impeachment for democratic primary voters? >> it is of significance, gret significance. most of the supporters on the left, specifically democratic primary voters support im ip d impeachment and believe president trump is unfit for office and we saw on the debate stage the commitment to remove trump from office, but i think what the candidates were also trying to do was send a message to independent voters in that moment. they want to make it very clear that the president and his party cannot be trusted to continue to run the country, and they want turnout to reflect that the less ideas about president trump and what he could possibly do for the american people and the government, if left in office, could get worse. >> eugene, let me ask you a little bit about the exchange between snoenator warren and mar pete buttigieg. they sparred over fun

now, it's tight, but we're also talking, eugene, 38 electoral votes. don't know much, but that seems like a lot of them. and biden, it seems to me, atop of this stack, can continue to make the "i'm the best hope" argument. >> well, and he's going to make that argument. i mean, you know, even the polls that show all the leads democrats potentially beating president trump, there's always the biggest gap with biden. >> but the problem is biden is doing very well -- in fact, the c.w. around his campaign is propelled by national polls where there's not as much competition. you go to the markets where there's a lot of stuff on the supermarket, iowa and new hampshire, where other people are really competing. he's in the hunt, but he's not dominating at all, and he's declined from where he started. >> and the three of us have all interviewed voters in iowa and new hampshire, who have met multiple candidates. >> oh, yeah. >> one individual life, they can talk about candidates over the past couple of decades. >> it's true. the old joke, the iowa caucus voter, wh

eugene, you know, every four years people try to say, maybe iowa won't matter much this time. here we go again. the person that wins this first, whether it is biden, he shuts people down, or buttigieg, he shoots into the top tier, iowa will matter again. >> absolutely. midwestern voters matter, they always have. but they really matter when you have candidates competing for the white house whose brand is in part, i'm a midwesterner and that's what america needs right now, someone who is, you know, mild mannered and even tempered, who is a unifier and who can pay attention to people like them, give them the attention they need and let them know that you have solutions for their concerns. one thing that's interesting about iowa, there's been conversation about iowa not needing to be first because there's so much emphasis on diversity in the democratic party and iowa is not the most diverse state compared to other states. i've done some reporting and read how many iowa voters actually are mindful of diversity issues and it pushes back on the idea that diversity is only a concern i

you had eugene and i rolling in the aisles.o mike murphy, eugene robinson, two friends of ours, thank you both for coming on after another long day. >>> coming up for us, the co-author of the book mitch mcconnell says he's reading to refresh his memory on impeachments we've known and not so much loved will join us when we come right back. my parents never taught me anything about managing money. the amount of student loan debt i have, i'm embarrassed to even say. we just decided we didn't want debt any longer. ♪ i didn't realize how easy investing could be. i'm picking companies that i believe in. ♪ i think sofi money is amazing. ♪ thank you sofi. sofi thank you, we love you. ♪ >>> impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumptions. that's the problem when you move towards impeachment on this abbreviated schedule that has not been explained to me why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachment. narrow, fast impeachments have failed. >> peter baker of the "new york times," who c

. >> eugene robertson is here to talk with us and mike murphy.cast with david axelrod. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. is there is any real risk to the democratic party by doing this. >> the guy? minnesota voted against, it is interesting. he's the farmer's friends and he's unbeatable. he could pay a price for going against impeachment. his activist in a tough race are going to hold it against him. there are a couple who are in those district and they're going to bend the politics. >> eugene, the topic came up earlier today of the courage required of moderate democrats to take this vote, our friends steve schmidt took a view. >> they took an oath and ran for public office. they are stewa the oath they take is to defend the constitution of united states to assert article one responsibilities, keeping a check on the article ii branches of the government. it is about the conduct and the action and they are duty bounds to do their jobs. >> a lot of members of congress also wanted to be reelected. they just do. i would say obvious in what you have

you had eugene and i rolling in the aisles. to mike murphy, to gene robinson, two friends of ours, thank you both for coming on after another long day. coming up for us, the co-author of the book mitch mcconnell says he's reading to refresh his memory on impeachments we've known and not so much loved, will join us when we come right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumptions. that's the problem when you move toward impeachment on this abbreviated schedule that has not been explained to me. why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachment. narrow fast impeachments have failed. >> peter baker of the "new york times," who co-wrote a book on impeachment with our next guest, pointed out today the following. "turley keeps saying this would be a record fast impeachment, but it really depends on how you count it. in the clinton case the house voted to impeach him 72 days after it authorized an inquiry. it has now been 71 days since pelosi opened the inquiry int

therest the there's no shame. >> our friend eugene is too modest to admit this. he is the third pulitzer prize recipient we've had just in this hour, just in "the washington post" so when gene says more customers are out there, more people are reading. this is a banner time for the business of journalism and great writing. >> and there's a value to find the truth if people decide to find the truth, but we're so tribal now that in the digital world you can go find the truth you think is true. >> the truth that already agrees with you when you wake up in the morning. >>> it's a quick time-out, we're going to sneak in a break. these gentlemen aren't going anywhere. coming up, pushback from the biden camp about a report that's out there that he'll only run for a single term. attention! the enrollment deadline is this sunday. healthmarkets compares your current plan with thousands of options nationwide from national insurance companies. funny thing about health insurance, you don't think about how much you need it until you need it. he's not going to be okay. with so

eugene protsman is one of the exceptions. a three-time convicted murderer.ative segregation cell where he rarely has contact with other inmates. >> they call me as a serial killer. so they keep me confined away from other people. protsman was only recently transferred to the jail from state prison where he has been incarcerated for 12 years for the first of his murder convictions. he says he was high on meth when he attacked a female acquaintance in a san diego trailer park. >> i was freaked out. i had done too much. i had already been up for like 14 days. i thought this girl was a snitch. setting me up. i don't know exactly what all came about. the next thing you know, i find her dead on the couch. i had hit her in the head with a hammer. i left her there dead. i thought i would hide out with carnies for a while. the owner had seen my name on america's most wanted. when he seen it, he called the police and i was arrested one morning at the carnival. >> he was sentenced to life without parole. 12 years later, he was returned to oakland after police linked hi

eugene, great to have you on the show. thank.his hour from msnbc live. live from sunny, cloudy, kind of west palm beach, florida. we'll be here all week long as i'm on assignment covering president trump's holiday visit to his mar-a-lago resort. that does it for us today. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. craig melvin, i know the weather here is a little bit nicer than where you are. 80 degrees on christmas. >> is that? wow. okay. there's a little envy there. miss jackson, good to see you. good to see you as well. craig melvin here. msnbc headquarters in new york cit city. >> fighting back. in the last 15 minutes, chuck schumer laying out what he wants the impeachment trial to look like. and in a new interview, mitch mcconnell says he is fine to slow down this process. also, a christmas threat from

eugene robinson for the "washington post," jason johnson politics editor at the root, and mike murphy, republican strategist, codirector for the center of the political future at the university of southern california, and at the big board tonight of course our national political correspondent steve kornacki, good evening, and welcome to you all once again. senator, i loathe the word by narr binary, but these days you can't be on cable news, do you buy the binary choice that you can have -- >> i think you can have both. all of these candidates have progressive, bold ideas. some go much further than others, you know, bernie's f universality, he wants college to be free for everybody. elizabeth warren wants everybody's college debt to be wiped out. all of these candidates are bold about climate change. they understand the danger that climate change remipresents and that's a big contrast to the president and the president's party. i think you can have both. i don't think it's a binary choice, and i think the candidate that will be successful will realize that and actually play to both. i

. >> other members of our family here tonight eugene robinson, claire mccaskill and chris matthews. because we are watching the vote, we are watching the red voting cards get held aloft, tell us first how voting differs in the senate and house. and secondly, why this looks like a highly social mosh pit in the front. >> yeah, it is much different in the house you could vote electronically. in the senate you have to catch the clerk's eye and you have to see her or him and say aye or nay and you have to obviously be on the floor of the senate. so it is not a quick process in the senate if there is a roll call because people wander in and out to this and beam have to register individually what their vote is without benefit of electronic device. the thing i would take away from today is if you hadn't been following this closely, if you hadn't listened to the evidence that was presented at the hearings, if you didn't understand who the people were that were referred to from time to time, what you would come from this day is you would come with one overriding feeling and that is, you know,

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here with us in new york, claire mccaskill, eugene robinson, columnist for "the washington post," jason johnson, editor for the root and at the big board, of course, our national political correspondent, steve kornacki. vaughn hillyard is in the spin room, and i see in the monitor in the corner of my eye he has mayor pete standing by. hey, vaughn. >> mayor buttigieg, we're on with brian and the team. the question coming out of this year, you saw the conversation being back and forth. i want to go to the point of the fundraisers. last week you had no public events outside of the education forum. held 18 fundraisers there. critical up stage. why have those fundraisers in the first place? >> we need all the resources we can bring to end the trump presidency. this is how we're going to win. it's got to be everybody contributing. we've opened our fundraisers to the press, which is extremely rare in u.s. presidential politics, but i think it's the right thing to do for tyrannous. more broadly -- >> why do you need that face to face? i think that was the point that elizabeth warren was hitting

a mural painted back in 1963 by an indiana artist, eugene savage. we will start in the middle, we see a young lady there in a golden dress, that is miss indiana stepping into statehood. on the right side of the mural, the artist is depicting the business and industry of indiana. , the goddess of agriculture, and the big bucket of golden yellow stuff pouring out represents the steel industry. indiana produces more steel than any state in america. as we move to the left side, we see how we spend our money, primarily music, art, and education. as we move below, we see the great seal of indiana. that goes way back before statehood. there is a bison jumping over a log on our seal. we did have bison in indiana. there is a man chopping down a sycamore tree, that is what you did when he moved to indiana, you had to clear forest. great seal is on all the official documents and it is all over the statehouse, on the rugs, on the backs of the chairs in the house and senate. the seal is also on the doorknobs in the hallway. office of thethe indiana governor. thi

eugene mccarthy had also thrown his hat into the ring. although it was a long shot, indiana which is a more conservative state even among democrats didn't seem like the right state for kennedy to start his campaign. it was a bit of a gamble. kennedy himself said my whole campaign is a gamble so let's give it a try and indiana. following his speeches in south bend at the university of notre his on april fourth and subsequent talk at the university, kennedy was supposed infly to indianapolis coming at the airport and from there go to downtown indianapolis. after that, he was supposed to come out here to the broadway christian center at 17th and broadway street which was in the heart of an african-american neighborhood. give his standard campaign speech. talk about what he was going to do if he won the nomination and they were also registering people to vote because they would need every vote they could. on the way to indianapolis when he was at the airport, the couple of reports said kennedy heard the news that dr. king had been shot. at th

"washington post" political reporter eugene scott and former counsel to the house judiciary committee during the nixon impeachment process, michael conway. garrett, explain to us what has been going on in that committee room today. >> officially the rules committee is debating the rules by which the house impeachment will go forward on the floor, how long, whether or not there will be amendments loud. you're seeing some of a dress rehearsal for the floor debate with two of the most outspoken members who have been involved in the impeachment process, pushing for the articles or key fending the president against them, doug collins as the ranking member defending the president pushing back moving this to the floor and a late substitution, jamie raskin, young congressman from maryland, replacing jerry nad her the judiciary committee chairman had to return to new york with a family emergency. expect to see more throughout the afternoon as these two go back and forth. something of a colloqu colloquyg articles of impeachment. more and more members whose political careers may be defined how t

brook west worcesterd chris crane and former baltimore ravens, green thumb industry partner, eugene monroe welcome. >> great to have you all. >> great to be here. kennedy: all your expertise in cob placeone place, brook. is it true they denied any dozens application that came in there has been potential move to take new applications and increase grow production and the dispinsing outside of ole miss, nothing has happened on the growptd. they are still the ones controlling producttion making strains that are more limited than we see in terms of percentage of thc or cbd. kennedy: in a dispensary it has not been scientifically tested, does not mean it is bad for you, with you it just means they don't know what they should know. people are curious. right now nfl of all places studying marijuana as a potential pain management tool for players, yesterday, percy haharvin said he spoked weed for -- spoke weed for every game and he play for 8 years, they can't medicate themselves with thc, what does that say about the league. >> really been a stagnant situation, we see really the flow of moving for

and another's senator, this one from minnesota, eugene mccarthy, had also thrown his hat into the ring for the nomination. the indiana primary was the first opportunity for him to test out his message and his campaign with voters. although it was a long shot, indiana, which is a more conservative state even among democrats, didn't seem like the right state for kennedy to start his campaign in. and it was a bit of a gamble. but kennedy himself said my whole campaign is a gamble so we are going to give it a try in indiana. following his speeches in south bend at the university of notre dame on april 4 and his subsequent talk at the university, kennedy was supposed two, according to his schedule, fly to indianapolis, coming in at the airport and from there go to downtown indianapolis to open his new campaign headquarters. after that event, he was supposed to come out here to the broadway christian center at 17th and broadway street, which was in the heart of an african-american neighborhood, give his standard campaign speech, talk about what he was going to do if he won the nomination, an

my thanks to eugene, elise, matt. that does it for our hour.orementioned chuck todd starts now. >>> welcome to wednesday. it's hard to believe it's only wednesday, right? it's "meet the press daily" and good evening. i am chuck todd here in new york city. we are hearing about the origins of the russia investigation has just wrapped u

china is both a coming in plausible leader in filler and eugene investing more in revenue both in any other country and build more out. as they with fossil fuels the op the opec oil cartel has agreed to cut production by half a 1000000 barrels a day that's the equivalent of half a percent of global output members of the organization of the petroleum exporting countries and russia agreed to the modest cut at a meeting in vienna there are a means to boost prices as the global economy slows down and to compensate for higher output from the u.s. and other producers outside the cartel. the opec has lost a bit of the influence in a joint only a decade ago why is that well there are more oil producers outside the cartel as well as internal disagreements over pricing the organization currently has 14 members for many of them oil is their main source of revenue revenue which is why they like prices to be as high as possible here's the problem with that the world's biggest oil producers united states and russia are not members of the cartel their outputs of around $12.11 barrels per day respect

. >> eugene, revolution, victory? >> look, i think most democratic voters if you ask them are more concerned about victory than revolution. you know, there's a need -- i think there's a sense that there's a need for a candidate who has the vision of taking the country in a different direction. a vision of a more inclusiveness, a big change in immigration policy and finally doing comprehensive immigration reform, big change in health care policy. finally doing something to help, you know, an issue that's so important to so many people. but according to the polls when you ask democrats what's important to them it's very, very important to beat donald trump because there's a sense of national emergency. there's a sense that something -- something wrong and awful is happening in the white house that imperils the nation and imperils the american experiment in a sort of existential way and that first a and foremost you've got to win, you've got to win the white house. the difficulty is of course it's easier to evaluate and

and here with me in our studio, "washington post" columnist eugene robinson and andrea kendall taylor, a former cia analyst. welcome, all. kristen, first to you, i think you were hearing from the president for more than two hours today at a variety of photo opportunities and he hasn't even met with prince charles yet. why don't you go over what you thought were the biggest headlines. >> there were a number of headlines, andrea. and you're right, president trump was in a very talkative mood today. he took questions at all of these bilateral meetings on a range of issues. i do think these tensions with french president emmanuel macron may be the biggest headline so far coming out of this nato summit. remember, these two leaders were once so close, their relationship was described as a bromance. then macron criticized the united states' decision to pull out troops from syria. he said nato appeared to be brain-dead. president trump earlier today called those comments insulting and nasty. now, while the two leaders were sitting side by side, they did try to downplay those differences, andr

. >> it's funny, when i rd to script and do go to that scene, i lghed outoud -- this is before eugene evencast, so i didn't really fully know the degree to which it was going to be hirious. >> we'll just tell your motr that we ate it all. >> when you guysere on set, what was it like onset? camaderie like?e, the it was like this. >> that's actuall true. all the dynamics that are happening now. >> yeah. i was thinking about scott. i don't know if you wan t get phon call, that you called me once -- >> a what? >> a zany phone call. you kind of knowhere i'm going th this. >> i'm still very flattered by the phone call. sean, dyou remember what happened? >> i mean, yeah -- >> oh! here, huh?ncovering set secrets going on a little something i don't know that anything happened p se, but -- >> do tell. >> this is so cute. look at him. >> none of us knew this! >> new news. >> did you huntim down? >> all i remember is that how sweet is it thate were young enough but we recall all really -- >> why didn't you -- i kn. he's still really cute. >> is tre anyone who had a moment together? when had a hoo

. >> eugene scott with "the washington post" for us. eugene, great to have you on the show. thank. thank all of you for watching this hour from msnbc live. live from sunny, cloudy, kind of west palm beach, florida. we'll be here all week long as i'm on assignment covering president trump's holiday visit to his mar-a-lago resort. that does it for us today. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. craig melvin, i know the weather here is a little bit nicer than where you are. 80 degrees on christmas. >> is that? wow. okay. there's a little envy there. miss jackson, good to see you. good to see you as well. craig melvin here. msnbc headquarters in new york cit city. >> fighting back. in the last 15 minutes, chuck schumer laying out what he wants the impeachment trial to look like. and in a new interview, mitch mcconnell says he is fine to slow down this process. also, a christmas threat from north korea. some exclusive new satellite photos that give us some clues about exactly what north korea may be up to in its weapons program. and about that evangelical magazine founded by reverend

for more i'm joined by sam stein and eugene. buttigieg looks like the guy who's leading and may stay in the lead in iowa, and she has to in iowa. >> yeah, i think that's right. what interested me here was the turf she chose, because she could have chosen to do this on his attacks on health care. she went after him on transparency. i think she views this as more health care is obviously a complicated one. it's proven complicated for both her and kamala harris who have been has left the race. and she stakes a legitimacy to saying, look, i'm open book on this stuff, i'm all transparent. i don't do big fund raisers like this. i have a complete grassroots fund-raising apparatus, so she has the high ground here. i think it's interesting she chose this fight and not for the health care -- >> they all ask us what do you hear, what do you think? all the fine people are for buttigieg. they're always for the smart people, the well educated people who have good values and are tolerant about people who are gay in their orientation. no proble

an sfo spokesperson says the flight was headed to eugene, oregon. after circling over the bay for nearly one hour, the plane did land safely back at sfo while emergency crews lined the runway. >>> in the east bay, police are looking for two masked gunman who shot a 30-year-old man to death inside his pittsburgh home. the shooting happened early yesterday morning, on the 200 block of havenwood circle. that's in the oak hills neighborhood on the far west end of pittsburgh. police say it pears the shooter and the victim did know one another. >>> well, with the deadly gilroy garlic festival shooting still fresh in their minds, people turned out for a gun buyback program in that city to help keep their community safe and to help it heal. "today in the bay's" roz plater was there. >> reporter: the first gun buyback in south santa clara county in 25 years and law enforcement agencies weren't sure what kind of response they'd get. >> we had over 70 cars waiting by the time we opened at 9:00 a.m. within the first hour, we had already given out $20,000. >> re

. >> it' funny, when iead to script and do go to tt scene, i laughed out loud -- this is befo eugene even cast, so i didn'teally fully know the degree to which it was going to be hilarious. >> we'll just tell your mother that we ate it all. >> when you guys were on set, what was it like on set? what was it like, the camaradee like? >> iwas like this. >> that's actually true. all the dynic thaare happening now. >> yeah. i was thinking abo scott. into this, b i remember a o get phone call, that you called me once -- a what? >> a zany phone call. you kind of know where i'm going th this. >> i want the know. the phone call.ry flattered by sean, do you remember what happened >> i mean yeah -- >> oh! >> we're uncovering set secrets here, huh? was this a little something going on? i don't know that anything happened per se, but -- >> do tell. >> this so cute. >> none of us kw this! >> new news. >> i remember that. >> did you hunt him down? >> all iemember is that how sweet is it that wwere young engh but we recall all really -- >> why didn't you -- i know. he's stilleally cute. >> is there

then in 2016 she sang the role of tatyana and eugene onegin at the comedy show park in berlin. her potential was obvious but she was unable to demonstrate the full extent of her talent. this time. for election day and was really hard for me because 1st of all i was pregnant my father was dying and he was next to me it was some of the moment special interview when i thought i could manage. she divided her time between rehearsals and the hospital her father himself a famous tenor eventually died but she had to keep going. and cry extreme than was before the performance after performance but in the performance and kind of i noticed me and then asked make. in the summer of 2019 asked nick berg orient captivated the opera world with a stunning performance as a zalmay. her voice was powerful her acting mesmerizing. after her star turn at the prestigious and dance book festival she's now in demand all over the world plus carla the met emma while opera house in london are all eager to engage her. first of all you must have it we can call that the cards or whatever i mean but it's reall

eugene robinson, pulitzer prizewinning columnist for "the washington post."on johnson, politics editor over at the root, and at the big board tonight our national political correspondent steve kornacki. good evening and welcome to you all. senator, it occurs to me you served with three out of seven people on that stage tonight. your impressions of what you saw. >> well, actually four. i served with biden also at the end of biden's -- the last two years of bidens -- >> 4 out of 7, better than 3 out of 7. >> here's what my overriding impression was. it felt like a bucket of cold-water on a hot day because we have been so obsessed with the chaos and drama of this mess in the oval office. i mean, we go from one night where the president of the united states is saying that a revered congressman is in hell because his wife voted for impeachment to a very strong field on this stage tonight. i thought all of them did well. i don't think anyone made a major mistake. there was some fighting back and forth, and we can talk about that. if i had to pick who won, i think j

french president on american spoke of that sacrifice in the face of terrorism and in the eugene mac ansettdom. often alas has the taste of spoke about. the us president is to snub the impeachment hearings against him. white house lawyers citing a lack of fence in the proceedings the set to the side of trump will face a full on trial in congress