the synagogue council and the national council of churches and father eugene boyle was present. and after that congress he was asked if san francisco could hold the conference and he came back to san francisco as the archbishop to do that, got permission from the board of rabbis and the san francisco council of churches in the summer of 1964 we had such a conference here. we talked about segregation at san francisco. i was invited to be on that committee by the rabbi men of congregation. and at the beginning of my involvement. it goes back all those years and i think that was 1 -- 1 could say that was really the beginning. >> at the very beginning coming together to stop an injustice to stop that which is darkening the world and bringing all the light together to focus. >> and talk about racism. and lots of people think that racism is limited to the south, which is certainly true. we have our own form of ray schism right here in the bay area. we have neighborhoods which have covenants which say no negroes around, that kind of thing. >> looking now at the year 2014 and looking ba