eugene daniels white house could responded for politico, coauthor of each day's addition of the political playbook. jeremy peters veteran political reporter for the new york times, and cynthia ochsner, former federal prosecutor and the civil rights division of the doj. good evening, and welcome to. all cynthia, counselor, you've got to go first tonight because of our lead story. what do we need to know about this texas reversal on appeal, and where this case might be headed? >> well, the cases headed to the supreme court. i mean, it's nothing but bad news for women of texas, and women everywhere. i hesitate to sum it up this way, in a colloquial way, but basically we're screwed. that's just true. the fifth circuit has reinstated this law. that's isn't overturning of roe v. wade, the takes away women's right to control her own body, two weeks after she's missed a period. most women don't know they're pregnant at that time. and now it's up to the fifth circuit, people say oh not to worry, it can be appealed at the supreme court. will it can be appealed at the supreme court, but remember it'

with that, we bring in our starting line on this friday night, eugene daniels white house correspondent for political coauthor of each day's addition political playbook, susan page veteran journalist and author of longtime washington bureau chief, over at usa today. cynthia alksne former federal prosecutor in the civil rights division of the justice department. good evening and welcome to you all, and counselor, i'd like to begin with you because the laws at the crux of so many of the news we cover today, the federal bench known for moving with the speed of molasses has fast-tracked this executive privilege claim, which is really fast for them. what do you make of that decision? >> well i think it's great news, we need to have a ruling on this, i expect that we will have one relatively quickly and i expect that the court will find that the documents are going to be turned over to the committee, after all this executive privilege under the presidential records act, the decision lies with biden. biden said it should be turned over. the issue is not whether protects trump, the issue is whe

joining us now, eugene daniels. he's also an msnbc contributor. any word on the white house reaction to this report and any possible plans to have the current doj, the biden doj take up these findings for an investigation of its own particularly in light that it may make criminal referrals. >> i mean that's the thing. i think they're waiting to see if there's going to be criminal referrals because this is the white house that has wanted to depoliticize the doj as we've seen and as you've just outlined, jon, just how much donald trump tried to use politics in dealing with the doj, trying to make them do things on his behalf not as president but as candidate of a presidential race, and so at this point, the white house is trying to stay if not this far back, pretty far back when it comes to just exactly how much involvement they have with this waiting on others to make decisions, waiting on others to say, this is criminal, we need to investigate that. that includes staying away from the doj, right? the white house. you've been in those press briefin

ashley parker, eugene daniels, jacqui, our starting line on a thursday night. thanks ken very much for starting us off. coming up for us, with the election just days away, the only twice impeached retiree, in all of florida, can't seem to stay out of that virginia governor's race. he feels needed, and he is a giver after all. and later, pulitzer prize-winning presidential historian and author, john mitchell ms. with us. to talk about how important this moment is, for joe biden's domestic agenda. and his foreign policy, as he goes to europe. all of it as the 11th hour, is just getting underway, on this thursday night overlooking the u.s. capital. sday night overlooking the u.s. capital u.s. capital and the provitamin b5 formula is gentle on skin. with secret, outlast anything! no sweat. secret. ♪all strength. no sweat.♪ the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. it helps keep you effortlessly comfortable by sensing your movements and automatically responding to both of you. and, it's temperature balancing to help you stay comfortable all night. it even track

joining us now is texas state representative jasmine crockett and eugene daniels is still with us.igan, lawyers who were involved in the big lie have been harshly criticized. in pennsylvania, they're looking at sanctions for lawyers involved in the big lie. how do you put someone in charge of state's elections who did something that was not just laughed out of court but potentially unethical? >> i mean, it's typical for texas, right? >> i guess. >> i mean, right now, it's -- right now, it's interesting because it seems like everything that we do is about pleasing trump. trump is not on the ballot but when i tell you that his influence is all throughout the halls of the capitol, that would be an understatement. they're also throughout the governor's mansion, obviously. and so, anything that he can do that would keep, i guess, trump at bay and make sure that trump doesn't endorse one of his opponents, that's what he's doing. he's doing any and everything that he can to please the former disgraced president. >> you know, i'm thinking about other people who were purveyors of the big li

. >> with me now, eugene daniels, politico white house reporter and playbook co-author. he's also an msnbc political contributor and nbc news correspondent cal perry at the west virginia state capital in charleston. eugene, why do you think the president was so able to be confident that an agreement is near? >> because he's had multiple meetings this week. so an in-person meeting at the white house gives you a lot more information than hearing about how meetings are going with your staff. and i think that everyone is -- everyone knows on the house side, in the senate, the president and his staff, that they need to hurry up, right? they're running out of time. they gave themselves this october 31st deadline, nancy pelosi did. the white house, i think, has called it a checkpoint, and not so much a deadline. so they want to make sure that they get a win. something that can say, you know, we got together, we came together, we figured out what we're going to invest in. and not just that topline number bouncing around, right? and so i think that's really important for the ameri

hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell, punchbowl news co-founder john bresnahan and politico's eugene daniels. great to have the three of you with us. leigh ann, let's talk about the debt ceiling since that's the most existential of the crises before this white house. mitch mcconnell sent a letter to biden today telling him to act but it's really republicans blocking democrats from taking a simple majority vote in the senate to get it done. we should be clear to our audience, because a lot of this stuff can be confusing. democrats are asking the republicans to stop filibustering a bill. you heard the president use the phrase "get out of the way." why won't mitch mcconnell do that? is it because he can't keep his caucus in line or is this a leverage play, he's holding out for something else? >> geoff, it's unclear. the letter that mcconnell released today saying he's asking for nothing in return other than the fact that they want no part in lifting the debt limit. of course if the republicans do, quote, want to get out of the way, that would take consent of all republicans. but mcconnell is pr

and eugene daniels, great to have you with us. the president is working policy and politics, as we see him work the rope lines and meet with local politicians on his way out of the venue there. we saw him sort of sell his build back better agenda and his infrastructure deal. he was welcomed by the new jersey governor phil murphy who is running for reelection. it would seem based on all the reporting that he is coming really close to fulfilling what is the historic promise of his presidency, mike. >> that's right, geoff, but he's not there yet. you heard the urgency in the president's tone especially towards the end as he said, what in god's name are we doing here, we have to get this done. that's the president's state of mind especially as he's preparing to head off to europe, not just for the glasgow climate summit but for the g20 meeting. he wants to show that for all the talk he's delivered about the importance of democracies delivering for their people, the united states is following through on that. geoff, this is interesting

house correspondent for npr and politico white house correspondent and politico skoe author, eugene daniels. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. chuck todd is off today. i'm andrea mitchell. a lot happened in washington this week. whether a lot got accomplished, that's another mat trer. for the third time democrats put up voting rights legislation, and for the third time it went nowhere because of the republican flib. >> today the rule of law are under relentless assault from republican governors, secretary of state, state legislators, and they're following my predecessor, the last president into a deep, deep black hole and abyss. >> there were many hopeful reports of progress on president biden's social spending plans and just as many pess mystic reports of stalemate. there was even one report that a principle democratic holdout, senator joe manchin of west virginia was thinking of leaving the party. by week's end democrats were

. >> with me now, eugene daniels, politico white house reporter and co-author of "the playbook," andalmer, founder of punch bowl news. both are msnbc contributors. ana, where do things stand right now in efforts to put the reconciliation bill together? >> yeah, they're pretty stalled right now. i think there's been frustration in the white house for how slowly the progress is being made. both the progressives and the moderates are really entrenched in terms of where their positions are. we don't see a lot of movement. of course, a lot of lawmakers are back home right now. so those kind of conversations continue, but this deadline for october 31st, which is what speaker nancy pelosi has said, that she wants, i think is very unlikely to happen at this point, because we don't even have a top line number, much less some of the actual details and the meat of what's going to be in that package. >> eugene, is there anything that the president and his top advisers can do to try to achieve this goal of moving us forward? >> they can keep engaging, which is what they continue to do anytime we

joining our conversation, politico white house correspondent and playbook co-author, eugene daniels. he's also an msnbc political contributor. leann is still with us. thank you both for being with me. leann, the standoff on the debt limit continues. the u.s. barreling towards defaulting on its debt. what's the plan to stop that from happening? >> there is a plan. i don't know if it will work, though, jose. the plan is for senate democrats to hold another vote tomorrow on lifting the debt limit. but the problem with that plan is it needs the support of ten republicans in order to move that process forward. there's no indication that i'm getting from republicans on capitol hill that they are willing to provide that support. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell insists that he's not going to help democrats do it. now, i will say that there is -- there is precedent in the past that the debt limit has been a partisan issue. it has passed along partisan lines. but what is unprecedented is the minority party, this time the republicans, filibustering or blocking the majority party, the dem

back with me pete dominick, liz plank and eugene daniels.ming in this. i watch it this afternoon and i thought it was hilarious. i thought it was really funny and i respect a lot of people will find it offensive, and it was offensive. i'm not going to lie. it was offensive, but it raises the question as to what we expect from our comedians. that's what i want to get to you guys to answer. you tweeted out, last week, chappelle is your favorite of all time. do you still feel that way? >> yeah. i mean he -- you take an artist, their entire body of work. you can even separate the art from the artist in a case like bill cosby or something, but i was never really a huge fan of his comedy. yeah, chappelle is special. killing him softly is my favorite. i know him. i have been doing stand-up for 12 years. he is respected in the comedy community. he is arguably the greatest of his generation, if not of all time, but it is subjective. i watched the special and i found myself laughing quite a bit but i found myself being offended in several places. i me

eugene daniels, white house correspondent for political oef, co-author of each day's edition of "politico playbook." kimberly atkins store, previously wbur and the boston herald now a member of the "boston globe" editorial board. and barbara mcquade, veteran former prosecutor, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan who worked with the doj during the biden transition. she is a professor at her alma mater, university of michigan law school. she and kimberly, by the way, make up 50% of the podcast "sisters in law," along with joyce vance and jill wine-banks. good evening and welcome to you all. and counselor, indeed i'd like to begin with you. barb, i didn't bring a bucket of cold water to this conversation intentionally. but i heard this business of a criminal contempt complaint explained today. last time it happened in the house was in 1983. it's got to be voted on by the house. then goes to doj, meaning the u.s. attorney in the district of columbia. then maybe to a grand jury. then maybe to a jury trial. the house would select a trial lawyer to represent them at trial.

. >> kicking us off this sunday, jamil smith, political contributor eugene daniels. ne, this is a fast-moving story. tell us where we are right now. >> right now we know they're still negotiating, like we say. but it is -- >> we really -- eugene we need that puppy cam you and i have talked about where we can look in and see -- read the body language and see how things are going. we started with that working list of the things that could come or that could go. my sense is that today's conversations really zeroed in on paid family leave and whether or not we'll see that medicare expansion. is that your understanding as well? >> no, absolutely because that was one of the things we knew going into it. joe manchin could kind of do without the federal paid leave. it went from 12 weeks. president biden kind of shocked a few people last week saying that it was now four weeks. so, that means that this is something they might continue to winnow down, which i will say is not the promise they made to the american people. that is going to be something that working parents are goin

. >> let's add to the conversation, eugene daniels and former u.s. attorney from the northern district of alabama, joyce vance, let me begin with you, joyce with all the questions. is the select committee handling this right by saying steve bannon, we'll put you in jail if you don't come testify. is that the right direction to go or is that a good signal to send to other witnesses. >> dong has a limited hands to play here. one of the things we have learned when you have leaders who are breaking the systems and not abiding by its norms they can do a lot of damage. here congress is playing the part it has as best as it can. its got two options. one would be going to court and pursue a civil contempt. we saw how that played out with don mcgahn. this mechanism is imperfect but it may be the best option here. what it requires for congress to send a referral to the u.s. attorney's office in the district of columbia. that u.s. attorney will make a charging decision about whether to bring criminal contempt charges. it's a strong signal to people who are resp

. >>> joining us now, white house correspondent for politico and co-author of "the playbook," eugene daniels. good morning. nice to see you. the january 6th committee is moving to hold banon in contempt. what kind of precedent do you think this sets? do you think the doj will move ahead with the prosecution? how do you think this plays out? what do you think bannon's next move might be? and what about kash patel and dan scavino. >> they're saying you cannot ignore the president. you can't say he's declaring some kind of blanket executive princh that doesn't exist in order not to comply with what he's saying. i think they're using bannon specifically because he's probably the least likely to be helpful in an actual deposition. they kind of have gone through this process before with him during the russia investigation, congress has, and so they know he's unlikely to give them a lot of information because he is so loyal to president trump in the entire maga movement, right? his next steps are probably to continue to stonewall. i have a hard time seeing steve bannon actually just come and sit an

eugene daniels is here. katie benner is also here. and robert costa joins us, national political reporter for the "washington post" and coauthor the already quoted from book, "peril". robert costa, i start with you. you had this eastman memo in your book. to be honest it took all of us i think a couple news cycles to really digest it and understand its import. talk about eastman's posture since he's been outed at the architect of the coup. >> as bob woodward told me at the start this project, get the documents. because people can have a lot of talk, whether it is john eastman or anyone else who is close to president trump or even president biden. and documents memorialize decisions and discussions. eastman memo is two pages, sick parts. it outlines in vivid detail how pence n the eyes of eastman could try to nudge the election into the house of representatives and have trump win a second term. eastman has scland himself in so many ways since the book has come out and the memo has been revealed that are confusing, to be frank. at the e

. >> eugene daniels, kimberly and kids, barbara mcquade, our thanks to our starting line for taking all of our questions on a thursday night. coming up for us, a consequential off here election that's being closely watched, and while trump is in on the ballot, he of course is a factor. our political experts here to talk about what's at stake in the race that so many of you, it's an important test for democrats and republicans. date later doctor vin gupta breaking down everything we need to know about today's recommendation from the fda on boosters. and the latest information on former president clinton, hospitalized in california tonight. all of it at as the 11th hour is just getting underway. on this thursday evening, overlooking the u.s. capitol. evening overlooking the u.s. capitol ♪ this is how we do it ♪ (tools drop) (squeaking sound) ♪ this is how we do it ♪ turns out, montell jordan knows how to do almost everything. and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. ♪ this is how... ♪ i got it, i got it, i got it. for

and let's bring in our leadoff guests, eugene daniels, correspondent for politico. jeremy peters of "the new york times." and cynthia oxney, welcome to you all. counselor, what do we need to know about this texas reversal on appeal and where this case may be headed? >> the case is headed to the supreme court. it's nothing but bad news for women of texas and women everywhere. i hesitate to sum it up this way, but basically, we're screwed. that's just true. the 5th circuit has reinstated this law that is an overturning of roe v. wade, most women don't know they're pregnant at that time. now it's up to the 5th circuit. people say, not to worry. it can be appealed at the supreme court. it can be, but it's the supreme court that let this law into into effect in the first place. through a shadow docket, late at night, without even mentioning roe v. wade. the supreme court has five votes to overturn it, they have a case in front of it, the mississippi dobbs case. it looks like they'll overturn it or restrict it. i see nothing but bad news. it's infuriaing to me that none o

i want to bring in white house correspondent for pbs news hour and eugene daniels, and leigh ann caldwellinema said she doesn't want to tax the rich and corporations, isn't she saying she is against this thing full stop? >> reporter: it is hard to tell. it is hard to tell what sinema thinks because the office doesn't comment. have not talked to reporters who ask many questions in the capitol hallways but we do know that she does not support taxes on the highest tax bracket, covid-19 esing to 39.6% and doesn't support increasing the corporate tax rate and two things that not only have democrats run on of undoing the 2017 tax cut bill, but also, making the wealthiest pay for this social safety net so democrats what they are doing is scrambling to figure out alternate ways to pay for this upwards of $2 trillion bill and vent figured it out yet. >> why scrambling? is this new or always her position? if she is not budging how do they get around it? >> it's hard to see how people are surprised by this. she voted no on the trump tax cuts and then voted yes to extend them. she has a personal stak

eugene daniels is joining us.that they are hearing from donahue are things that we've seen in reporting already. where what was president trump doing, how far was he willing to go. and i think that that is what the democrats on this committee are so concerned about and so interested in finding out the information for. and something that is when it comes to whether or not people will come, you are talking about people like meadows come and actually testify, this is not just about finding all of the truth and finding the information, it is also about asserting congressional power. because we saw during the trump administration how trump aides continuously dodged -- or didn't comply with congressional -- the congress asking them to come speak and that happened over and over again. so they are assuming that that will happen again. and so what happens next is that congress could as you saw -- you had a number of congress tweet today that that is something that they are looking into. there is a possible criminal aspect

eugene daniels, white house correspondent for politico, co-author of each day's addition of playbook,an paige, veteran journalist and author, long-time washington bureau chief at "usa today" and cynthia ox any, former prosecutor in the civil rights division of the justice department. good evening and welcome you to all. counselor, i'd like to begin with you because the law is at the crux of so much of the news we cover today. the federal bench known for moving with the speed of molasses has fast tracked this executive privilege claim which is really fast for them. what do you make of that decision? >> well, i think it's great news. we need to have a ruling on this. i expect that we will have one relatively quickly. i expect that the court will find that the documents can be turned over to the committee. after all, this executive privilege under the presidential records act, the decision lies with biden and biden said it should be turned over. it's not whether or not it protects trump. it's whether or not it's in the best interest of the country. and biden has correctly spelled out in

i want to bring in eugene daniels political white house correspondent. sahil, i'm so over it.n ends up looking like he's the king, you want me i ain't showing. what is the committee going to do? >> reporter: stephanie, the committee is coming up on decision time here in terms of how to enforce these subpoenas when a number of men in trump's inner circle appear to be blowing past deadlines and not come playing. last week it was the deadline for documents from steve bannon and others, today he and kash patel are scheduled to testify before deposition testimony before the committee. steve bannon made clear through his legal team he's not going to show up today, citing executive privilege claims by former president trump. we have no indication that kash patel is going to show up either. tomorrow, two others, mark meadows and dan scavino are supposed to testify before the committee, unclear if they're going to show up. last night at midnight there was a deadline for 11 people whose names were on the permits who helped organize rallies, they were all subpoenaed. and now we have jeff

political white house correspondent, eugene daniels, and a associate professor of political science atversity. quite the pickle republicans have themselves in. on one hand they are standing side by side accepting his endorsement and singing his praises, and on the other hand when he's not in the room and they are alone, they are saying please, do not let this guy run again. the calculous is clear, but talk about the if -- the position that it leaves republicans in. >> it's a pickle they all put themselves in. january 6th, it seems like a million years ago, but the republican party was seemingly ready to be done with trump, and then you start to see leaders go to mar-a-lago to kiss the ring, and then the whitewashing of january 6th, the whitewashing of his presidency, that's where we got where we are right now. for months, lawmakers on one side have been clear, they want him to stay out of the 2022 mid-term primaries because the people he's choosing they may not be able to win in the general election in 2022, and they also are concerned about, you know, him actually running. if he's not

i'm joined by michelle from "the new york times" and eugene daniels. your thoughts, michelle. >> i think that, look, i think that progressives that i've spoken to understand that there is going to have to be a negotiation. they understand the kind of catastrophic, how catastrophic it would be if both the reconciliation and the infrastructure bill went down. which is, you know, the thread of what could happen if progressives are unable to come to an agreement on something that joe manchin and kirsten sinema could also accept. so i think they're ready to compromise. and part of the difficulty though in even kind of getting into getting negotiations, manchin has thrown out a number. 1.5 trillion. so they can say the final number is going to be between 1.5 trillion and the 3.5 trillion that biden initially asked for. it's much more difficult to think about what sinema wants and to think about making offers to sinema when she's not even saying what her parameters are. >> yeah, i mean, eugene, in all fairness, sinema's that person, you're trying to go out to

and eugene daniels. monica, congressman dave cicilline was supposed to be joining us at this moment but he's waiting to talk to the president. you got the details what's in this thing, what's in the plan? >> reporter: i can tell you that the president is delayed. he has not left the white house yet for that meeting with house democrats. that's significant because he has already pushed back his departure to italy and scotland because he's trying to hash out the final negotiations and details of this brand new framework we can report that the top line of this package has been scaled down from the original 3.5 trillion now to something in the $1.75 trillion range. there's a lot of headlines on what stays in and what's cut out. in the new framework the president is going to try to convince democrats to get behind, there will be universal prek, elder care funding, expanded child tax credit through 2022 at least. a clean energy funding and tax credit. there is at least $555 billion dedicated to climate in this

ashley parker, eugene daniels, jackie alemany, our starting line on a thursday night. thanks, gang, very much for starting us off. >>> coming up for us, with the election just days away, the only twice-impeached retiree in all of florida can't seem to stay out of that virginia governors race. he feels needed and he's a giver, after all. >>> later, pulitzer prize-winning presidential historian jon meacham to talk about how important this moment is for biden's agenda and foreign policy chops as he goes to europe. all of it as "the 11th hour" is just getting under way on this thursday night overlooking the u.s. capitol. when i break a long run i'm talking long long. that's why i use old spice triple protection sweat defense. old spice works harder for longer. hey derrick man, you gonna be much longer? it's gonna be a minute minute. hey derrick, quit playin. derrick! for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pi

capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali, "new york times" political reporter, jeremy peters, and eugene daniels, politico white house reporter and playbook co-author, as well as an msnbc political contributor. good to see all of you this morning. so, ali, the house and senate are out of session. they're not going to be back until next week. so what are we expecting moving forward here? >> reporter: yeah, chris, some very empty halls of congress around me as everyone has cleared out for the weekend. but the key players are still at work, having these negotiations. as much of the framework was released yesterday morning, what's the problem here and why they haven't been able to move forward is the fact that there's no firm consensus around it. on the progressive house side of this, you've seen people led by pramila jayapal, the head of the house progressive caucus, saying that her caucus endorses the framework, but needs more assurances, specifically from the senate side. yesterday, many of us up here in the capitol hill press corps tried to pin down these senators. congresswoman jayapal met with

joining me now is elise jordan, eugene daniels politico white house correspondent and maria hinojosa.ound from transportation secretary pete buttigieg on paid family leave. >> my biggest fear is fairfax county, which has already reported it would announce late to the single biggest voting county of the state -- >> still the wrong clip playing in my ear. can we have pete buttigieg now or no? okay. you know what we're going to do. no. no. no. no. no. maria -- >> it's a halloween trick, jonathan. >> i know. trick or treat. nothing but tricks up here. maria, since we played the sound from senator scott and what he had to say about what the administration might do when this comes to families separated at the border, your reaction? >> oh, my god. you know, there's no way you can really pay for the kind of trauma that this country has inflicted, but this is not the solution in this way. you have to understand that there is historical context. this country has taken children from indigenous people, it has taken children from enslaved black people, it has taken children during the japanese ame

joining our conversation, eugene daniels, white house correspondent, msnbc contributor. you see and how long you've been seeing it. >> i got out of the military in 2007 and i was a lot like these people who are joining unlawful militias and these white nationalist gangs. i mean, i came out as a hard core republican libertarian. the first thing that i read, night that i got out of the military was 1984. i was falling down rabbit holing on youtube watching conspiracy theory videos. these are things that i understand because i've been there. what i've spent the last couple of years doing is joining these organizations, infiltrating their online networks and monitoring them and letting people know what they're up to. you know, what's disappointing to me is that 130 some odd people use their dot gov address to sign up for the group, but this follows a pattern in what combat veterans saw in iraq and afghanistan. i deployed to iraq in the third year of the war. the guys told me all the dumb ones are gone. we dealt with them already. they're getting better. they're getting smart