he's not reliable because he worked for eugene mccarthy. we all know what the politics are. this is an important chapter and it turns out the university of minnesota which has the mccarthy papers right after the mccarthy campaign ended are the oral histories. everybody who worked for eugene mccarthy. there was a two-hour oral history interview with seymour hersh about what to place during that time. hersh is working for eugene mccarthy and he is needing money to do some mailing for a campaign. it's hersh, this big-money fat cat mccarthy and paul newman the act or who was actually a supporter of eugene mccarthy and was on the campaign trail with him. hirsch asked for money and the fat-cats had no i'm not giving you any more money. they start to yell and they get closer and closer. they are about to have a big fistfight and paul newman has to jump up and tackled him to the ground. there is paul newman separating hersh from this fat cat guy. i tell him about this archive and i said i gave an interview like that? my god i have a big mouth. i was beginning to find very often i kne

number three killer he is not reliable, no reliable because you worked for eugene mccarthy. we all know what the politics are. it turns of the university of minnesota which as the mccarthy papers, they went out and interviewed everyone he worked for eugene mccarthy. was it to our oral history interviews about what took place during that time. one wonderful and -- endo. he is needing money to mailing. he's in a hotel room. big money fat cat. and paul newman, the actor who was actually a supporter of the eugene macarthur. and he had the money. the fat cats as, i'm not giving you any more money. they start to yell and are about to start having a big fist fight paul newman has to jump up and tackle one of them. a wonderful stuff. and so i go and tell them about this. he says, i said that? high given it to be like that? might gonna have a big no. when i was beginning to find was very often i knew some of that did not know or remember. so it went. the biggest chance we had was over access to his family. tulu sisters : twins, and he has a twin brother. as everyone says : if you real

but my district is that kind of a place right this is where eugene mccarthy it's a war congressman you know you know this is where he would hold sway so the people who elected me are the kind of people who are are tough on their politicians but who are but are tough for the right reasons they're going to say what are you doing are you helping us get some jobs are you helping us have a favor a better cleaner society and by the way your religion that's your business and by the way you know your race you know that you're you know everybody's a race you know and so you know my district you know doesn't get sensitive when i start talking about racial justice because i do and they expect me to write a lot of america to live up to that you know liberty and justice for all things right that pledge we take every morning they kind of believe it you know so you know that's the kind of district that i represent and you know the kind of you know the district i represented to you when i got in trouble with the me. when i was running i was appalled by the iraq war many people in my district were as w

this is where hubert humphrey was the bare or you juried long dash 2g cars mccarthy stood -- eugene mccarthy where the base of support that really came from my district also vice president walter mondale who recently lost his beloved wife and we pray with them but also walter mondale but is a remarkable place. >> host: you are of co-chair of the progressive caucus? >> yes. also the minority whip where relies on also on the steering and policy committee and a proud member of the democratic caucus to serve with everybody else. >> host: you are a relatively new congressman why write this book now? >> after my colleague from the york decided he would use his prerogative as the chair of the homeland security committee i went to charity and to say i don't mind you talk about the radicals as we have to stand against radicals of any kind. but i ask you to not only focused there is a lot of people with threats of a homeland. people said no. i will how will but i will let you testify. i went back to certain friends and advisers why would you dignified by participating? others said get the alternative

this is where eugene mccarthy, commerce persons did against the war, you know, kind of did his thing. paul wellstone stomping ground. wellstone was in northfield, minnesota, but his support came from that district. it's also walter mondale recently learned that he lost his loving wife, joan. >> cap the hill, you're a coleader of the progressive caucus. >> guest: i am cochair of the progressive caucus. i'm also one of the five words that speaker for your blood run to help counter though. i assume on the steering and policy committee and the financial services committee and a proud number of the democratic caucus. i served with everybody else. >> okay. you are relatively new congressman when you talk about your colleague serving decades. why write this book now? >> guest: you know, after peter king, my colleague from new york decided that he was going to use his prerogative as the chair of the homeland security committee to focus on violent radicalization. i went to chairman king and i said, look, i don't mind you talking about muslims who are bred up radicals. violent radicals of any k

humphrey was the mayor and eugene mccarthy who was the commerce person he stood against the war did his thing. this is paul wellstone stomping ground, senator paul wellstone was from minnesota but his base support came from my district and it's also where vice president walter mondale who recently learned he lost his beloved wife joan. we prayed with them and keep them in our prayers but walter mondale so it really is a remarkable place in many ways. >> host: in your role on capitol hill you are a coleader of the progressive caucus. >> guest: i'm the cochair of the progressive caucus and one of the five clips that with oiler -- minority whip hoyer relies on to help count the vote and i'm also on the steering and policy committee and i'm on the financial services committee and a proud member of the democratic caucus. >> host: you are relatively new congressman and he talked about some of your colleagues serving in decades. why write this book now? >> guest: you know cory after peter king my colleague from new york decided that he was going to use his prerogative to the chair of the homel

there has been intolerance going without saying but this is where eugene mccarthy who was standing upst the war, no where it is the senator wellstone stomping ground his base of support really caver from my district in that is also paul ter mondale is from. as we recently learned as he lost his wife, we would pray with them and keeps them in there were prayers but even walter mondale. >> host: on capitol hill, you are a:leader for the progressive caucus? >> guest: yes. also one of the five that the speaker relies on to count the votes. also a history and policy committee invited to services committee and a proud river of the democratic caucus honor to serve with everybody else. >> host: you are relatively new. g you talk about your colleagues why'd you write this book now? >> guest: you know, , after my colleague from york king decided he would use his prerogative of the homeland security committee to focus on muslim radicalization, i went to chairman king. i know my age you talk about muslims who are radicals or violent radicals of the kind. but i ask you to not only focused on the m

i think she supported eugene mccarthy.he was a card-carrying democrat for many years and she married into republican family. she loves her husband and has great faith in him and his judgment. and supporting its platform. no, she is not a natural republican. set of relationships that his character throughout her lifetime is a group of girlfriends and she made in midland. how important are they and what did they provide? >> what she and the president have a very strong set of friends that have been their friends forever and has been their sustaining aspect. you come to washington and his best to have your own friends. they have been with you and you know where they stand and they trust you and you have their loyalty. she's always treasured going off with them. even when she was in the white house, they will go on trips once a year where they will go rafting and care for each other. >> they are mostly progressive democrats, the group of girlfriends. >> it is interesting. as mark said, she loves her husband and his loyal to he

she supported eugene mccarthy. i think she was a card-carrying democrat for many years. she married to a republican family and loved her husband, has great faith in him and his judgment. i think she supported his platform, but she is not a natural republican. >> before we leave the midland days, one set of relationships that as carry her through her entire life, rupert roughens, how important are they? what to they provide for her? >> i think she and the president have a very strong set of friends who have been their friends forever and it has been devastating aspect of them. when you come to washington is best to import your friends. you know where a stand and you know that they trust you if you have the loyalty. she particularly as all these. you when she was in the white house. these trips or they go rafting, in the wild. it would kind of care for each other. >> you know that they are mostly progressive. >> of course. >> it is interesting. think that she, as mark said, loved her husband, very loyal to resident. one of the things and i have come to the admire and appre