no reliable because you worked for eugene mccarthy. we all know what his politics are. this is an abortion chapter. the university of minnesota who had the mccarthy papers right after the campaign ended did these histories and went out and interviewed everybody worked for eugene mccarthy. there was a two-hour interview with seymour hersh about what took place. working for eugene mccarthy and needing money to promote the campaign. as a hotel room. and paul newman, a supporter of eugene mccarthy. and he asked for the money. the fat cat says, no. they're getting closer and closer. he has to jump up, a tackle one of them to the ground. there is paul newman's separating hersh. so i go and tell us about this archive. i said that it? i gave an interview like that? my god, i have a big mouth. what i was beginning to find was very often i new stuff that he did not remember. and so it went. the biggest test of the ad was over access to his family. to older system -- sisters, twins. a twin brother, allen. as everyone said, if you really want to know, you have to get to his twin bro

no reliable because you worked for eugene mccarthy. we all know what his politics are. this is an abortion chapter. the university of minnesota who had the mccarthy papers right after the campaign ended did these histories and went out and interviewed everybody worked for eugene mccarthy. there was a two-hour interview with seymour hersh about what took place. working for eugene mccarthy and needing money to promote the campaign. as a hotel room. and paul newman, a supporter of eugene mccarthy. and he asked for the money. the fat cat says, no. they're getting closer and closer. he has to jump up, a tackle one of them to the ground. there is paul newman's separating hersh. so i go and tell us about this archive. i said that it? i gave an interview like that? my god, i have a big mouth. what i was beginning to find was very often i new stuff that he did not remember. and so it went. the biggest test of the ad was over access to his family. to older system -- sisters, twins. a twin brother, allen. as everyone said, if you really want to know, you have to get to his twin bro

he is not reliable because he works for eugene mccarthy. we all know what his politics are. this is an important chapter. didn't know how i would recreated. the university of minnesota, after the mccarthy campaign ended this is all history and they went out and interviewed anyone who worked for eugene mccarthy and it was a two hour of history interview with seymour hersh about what took place. i can't resist telling, hersh working for eugene mccarthy and needing money to do some mailing to promote the campaign. it is hersh, big money fat cats and paul newman the actor, the supporter of eugene mccarthy. and they start to argue and yell. base start to have a big fistfight. paul newman has to jump up and tackle one of the men tackle him to the ground and hersh is on top of and paul newman is separating him. i tell him about this archive, i gave an interview, i have a big mouth. i was beginning to find, and many years in journalism. the biggest dance was access to his family. hersh for an -- sy history to older sisters, twins and the twin brother alan. as everyone said to me if y

the example of eugene mccarthy who probably took out lyndon johnson in the 1968 election -- eugene mccarthy went to five people, raised $100,000 from each one of them, fully disclosed who they were, and went to new hampshire and did a good enough job in new hampshire to frighten lyndon johnson out of running for reelection. eugene mccarthy in today's world could not have done that because he would have had to raise that $500,000 from 500 people instead of five people on the phone call every thursday afternoon. you are over there at the committee making phone calls. you couldn't do it the way you used to do it. and we've changed politics. the burden of fundraising is a direct result of the campaign-finance activity. pardon me. i didn't hear you. >> the public financing, he is saying. senator snowe, do you want to respond to that, to his point? >> i talked too much. >> having fewer donors? >> illuminating limits. >> well, it is the amount of but it was growing up financially before mccain-feingold. people found a loophole in the existing campaign laws at the time. i think what bob is referrin

so you don't spend quite as much time on the phone but the example of eugene mccarthy who probably took out lyndon johnson in 1968 election, eugene mccarthy .25 people and raise $100,000 for each one of them fully disclose who they were. .. >> pardon me? >> the public financing, he is saying. do you want to respond? >> well, no, -- >> well, -- >> the amount of money, but the dow is growing exponentially. people developed -- you know, found a loophole in existing campaign laws at the time. at think what bob is referring to is not allowing political parties to accept soft money. so he has leveraged these other groups. so i think that the sphere of influence went to these outside organizations as opposed to the political parties who could not, you know, get leverage with candid it's running for political office. that is something maybe we have to look at again in terms of whether or not you want political parties to, you know, accept, you know, certain contributions. have to really look at that. the question is more money in the system. the flood gate is open with citizens united which, ag

eugene mccarthy 125 people, raised $100,000 -- went to five $100,000, went to new hampshire and did a good enough job to frighten lyndon johnson from running for reelection. today, he cannot of done that. he would have had to raise , every0 from 500 people week on the phone. you could not do it the way you use to do it and we have changed politics. fundraising is a direct result of the campaign-finance activity. i did not hear you. >> the public financing, he is saying. do you want to respond to that? >> i talk too much. >> having fewer donors? >> eliminating limits. debt was growing exponentially even before mccain-feingold. loopholes in the existing campaign law of the time. is notb is referring to allowing political parties to accept soft money. it leveraged other groups. the sphere of influence went to the outside organizations, as opposed to the political parties , who could not get leverage with candidates running for political office. maybe that is something we have to look at again, whether or not you allow political parties to accept certain contributions. we really have to

mccarthyle of eugene who probably took out lyndon johnson in the 1968 election -- eugene mccarthy went to five people, raised $100,000 from each one of them, fully disclose who they were, and went to new