host: we're talking to eugene mo laro of transport. we're talking bridges, highways investments in this segment of "washington journal" today. if you have a question or comment. want to point out one other chart from the american society of civil engineers, their list of functionally obsolete bridges in the united states. in 2012, they listed nearly 67,000 structurely deficient bridges. and nearly 85,000 functional obsolete. what's the difference? >> structurely means that a bridge has shown, inspectors have found a series of problems -- it em, and it cub could be problems with the actual infrastructure, it's not meeting the codes that the standards at the state level at the federal level. and to be deemed structurally deficient, the recommendation is that they should be rehabilitated or replaced. doesn't necessarily mean they're unsafe to drive on, but they need to be repaired. d functionally obsolete, that's when, again, not an unsafe design, but they're an outdated model, an older bridge. bridges built during the eisenhower era. so,