i met him in the eugene o'neill foundation up in waterford, connecticut.e who really were -- we were herbalists. >> jimmy: oh, okay. [ laughter ] i think i got what you said. [ cheers and applause ] >> we were horticulturists. >> jimmy: that's a good way to put it. >> there were a lot of people there, and we wre very, very studied about it. so, we got together and then we decided to share an apartment. he paid -- we both paid half of the rent. it was $150 a week, a month. it was up on 89th street. and it was amazing, amazing apartment. and then michael got a show called "streets of san francisco." >> jimmy: oh, yeah, right. >> we were splitting that rent. >> jimmy: you're out on your own now? >> no, no, he paid while -- he sent the check. every month from san francisco. >> jimmy: what a good dude. >> swear to god. >> jimmy: what a good guy. that's awesome. that's a good story. yeah, it's cool. >> you wouldn't have done that. >> jimmy: i wouldn't have done that. >> no, i know. >> jimmy: no, no, no. i remember i had a roommate once, he slept in closet. and h