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. >> here at the national press club's book and author club, talking to eugene robinson, about his book, the splintering of black america. can you tell me how you came to four these groups. >> it seemed to work out that way. this is four seemed like an arbitrary number, seemed to be the way it worked out. clear it there was one group was the mainstream, the middle class black america. clear one group was the abandoned, nonmiddle class black america, and then the other groups were, you know -- i did think that the existence of a small but very powerful elite was something new. and so i called that the transcendent group. and then i needed a category to deal with groups that didn't fit the other categories, like immigrants, for example, from the caribbean and africa, and also bi-racial element. and that's how i got to four. >> you put new immigrants and byracial people together, and you were comfortable grouping them under the same umbrella. >> i was mostly comfortable with that. it was not precise. and it didn't make for as clean a category as the other categories. however, i thought tha

[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> at the national press club speaking to eugene robinson about his new book. can you tell me how you came to form of four groups? >> it seemed to work out that way for crow floor seems like the arbitrary number but it seemed to be the way that it worked out. one group was the mainstream of middle-class black america 10 and 1a group was the abandoned i did think the existence of a small but very powerful was something new and then i a needed to have one for those who did not fit the other immigrants for crowbar ratio so that is how i got ups and i guess you put the immigrants and biracial people together and were comfortable with that putting them under the same umbrella? >> la was mostly comfortable with that.ha it two was not precise and did not make up for a category as the other four categories. however i thought the similarities had the concept and 28 knowledge. f >> the one that would be more important in the it future. i am more comfortable with that aspect for cry wish it would work out exactly for but we stood out a loan as separate