one thing i tell my students is during the 1910's, everyone was a eugenicist. almost everyone would say yes. that's a bit of a daunting thought for us now. in the first half of the 20 century, it seemed like a promising set of practices. susan: why did that change? ms. nurridin: one of the turning points i would argue -- it does shift in some ways. the turning point is world war ii and the outcomes of nazi atrocities. that is when people start moving away from the term. a lot of the questions eugenicists are bringing up about using heredity and later genetics to talk about social issues does not really go away. it migrates and other fields by genetics and social sciences. people are still bound by these genetic terms and ways of thinking to talk about other kinds of problems. susan: is there a field of eugenics being practiced today or has it gone out of favor? ms. nurridin: i would argue it is still being practiced, but there are a number of people who would disagree because we don't call it eugenics anymore. a lot of people don't call it eugenics anymore. we