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little think we worry much about europe. as europe -- i don't think we worry much about europe. as they become more powerful i think we made. i don't think the average american thinks in -- thinks of europe in the way europeans want them to. >> the obama administration in europe is that he has taken his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some parts of the world where relations have been more complicated. there could be a reaction by europeans. he will need allies in afghanistan. >> that goes to the previous question. one of the reasons there is not a trend right al is that the u.s. around the world is not as polarizing as it has been in the past, with both republicans and democrats. issues reject elections are decided by issues on the ground and not cold war issues. you could go through europe and look at elections that turn on whether you work anti-american enough. -- whether you were anti- american enough. no one ever thinks they get enough time from the american president, and is positive and some ways troubling because the world needs leadership. we are very i
little think we worry much about europe. as europe -- i don't think we worry much about europe. as they become more powerful i think we made. i don't think the average american thinks in -- thinks of europe in the way europeans want them to. >> the obama administration in europe is that he has taken his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some parts of the world where relations have been more complicated. there could be a reaction by europeans. he will need allies in...
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and still became higher in eastern europe in 1989. first one country and then another effectively broke with communist rule starting with hungary and poland. the hungarian is also destabilized the east german regime by allowing east germans to travel to west germany via hungary. and then in the fourth of june, 1989, the very day in which hundreds of people in the vicinity of the human square would being killed in beijing, solitary one its famous victory in the polish elections. huge demonstrations in 89 took place in the streets of budapest, especially for the reburial. and warsaw, that eventually brought and budapest that the process continued until december, who waited until they could be sure they were not going to have a repeat of 1968, and romania which the last act of oppression backfired. what we saw was a circular flow of influence. it began with the changes in both the political system and foreign policy in moscow and floated east central europe. but what happened there especially in poland, the june elections and their overw
and still became higher in eastern europe in 1989. first one country and then another effectively broke with communist rule starting with hungary and poland. the hungarian is also destabilized the east german regime by allowing east germans to travel to west germany via hungary. and then in the fourth of june, 1989, the very day in which hundreds of people in the vicinity of the human square would being killed in beijing, solitary one its famous victory in the polish elections. huge...
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in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns about the obama administration in europe anyway has been that he tended to take his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some of the parts of the world where relations have been previously more complicated. and there could be a reaction by europeans. and he's going to need allies in places like afghanistan. >> it's funny, because i think that goes to the previous question, too. i think one of the reasons why there isn't a trend right now is that the u.s. -- at least around the world -- is not as polarizing as it has been in the past,
in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns...
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and there was a certain adversarial relationship between europe and america. and in particular this very, this intense american concern was heightened during the 1998 and 1999. by the launching of the euro which actually took place in january of a 0e -- '99. and also there was concern about european anger over seeming american arrogance in an effort to dominate previous interventions, particularly in boss any ya. even great britain was now showing interest in the possibility of an independent foreign policy, a very alarming development from the standpoint of the united states. so i think what you have here to a large extent was american efforts to use a new war in kosovo as a context in which to draw the allies together for a moral crusade under american leadership in a way that would give a new relevance to nato. 1999 was to be the 50th anniversary year for nato, symbolically very important, and also the u.s. wanted to change nato's charter to give nato an ability to act not only in europe, but to act out of area. in other words, to defend western interests o
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in europe and in the world. the future is precisely as your question suggests to find new ways and new technologies to develop cleaner cars. we have good support in this area, not only the ideas but because of funding. the u.k. investment with our full support has created this. this is one of the priorities for the next mandate. without greater automobile industries in europe, this is the way we can keep a leading position in the automobile industry in the world. >> mr. hughes. >> thank you, president. president barroso, the poverty network has describe your consultation document for 2020 as a step backward to strengthen the social network. you should know that on this side of the house, we cannot accept the strategies to avoid a social content. should you not make the fight against poverty and exclusion this centerpiece of the 2020 strategy? and recognizing that a third of all jobs created since the year 2000 in the european union are in the health, social, and foreign services, making i double contribution to
in europe and in the world. the future is precisely as your question suggests to find new ways and new technologies to develop cleaner cars. we have good support in this area, not only the ideas but because of funding. the u.k. investment with our full support has created this. this is one of the priorities for the next mandate. without greater automobile industries in europe, this is the way we can keep a leading position in the automobile industry in the world. >> mr. hughes. >>...
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in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns about the obama administration in europe anyway has been that he tended to take his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some of the parts of the world where relations have been previously more complicated. and there could be a reaction by europeans. and he's going to need allies in places like afghanistan. >> it's funny, because i think that goes to the previous question, too. i think one of the reasons why there isn't a trend right now is that the u.s. -- at least around the world -- is not as polarizing as it has been in the past,
in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns...
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and i say to him that is the advantage of being at the heart of europe. if we took his advice and his party's advice we'd be on the fringe of europe isolated dealing with minority parties and unable to change the course of the debate. that is not the position we're in. >> my right honorable friend wouldn't know there's a need to change legislation for the civil service compensation scheme. he knows this is also used as an opportunity by the permanent secretary dining club to propose slashes to the entitlement of lower paid civil servants in the event of redundant si. that a strategy instrument which i believe is proposed to be tabled on the last day when we recess for christmas will be introduced into this house to operate such a scheme from the first of january and will he ensure that no legislation is introduced until a new agreement is established with the unions concerned. >> mr. speaker he will find there is indeed extra protection for the lowest paid civil servants as well as ensuring all the savings the government is committed to will be achieved b
and i say to him that is the advantage of being at the heart of europe. if we took his advice and his party's advice we'd be on the fringe of europe isolated dealing with minority parties and unable to change the course of the debate. that is not the position we're in. >> my right honorable friend wouldn't know there's a need to change legislation for the civil service compensation scheme. he knows this is also used as an opportunity by the permanent secretary dining club to propose...
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the albanians were the one of the very poorest groups in ula of europe. under communist yugoslavia, it was essentially the serbs who were dominant in the province and the republic of serbia that dominated the province. there was significant discrimination against the albanian majority. and it must be said as a general point the albanians the very legitimate and historical grievance. in 1976, the communist government under tito engineered a major change of policy. and in this new policy, the albanians were privileged. new funds were given to the albanians for instruction in albanian in local schools. major federal funds were given to try to alleviate poverty among the albanian majority. and the local albanians were given effective authority in the local communist party. and essentially from 1966 to 1989, it was the albanians who were dominant. and in the context of this dominance, the albanians began to a large extent getting revenge on the serbs. and discriminating and harassing the serbs. there was, you know, in general neither group, the albanians and t
the albanians were the one of the very poorest groups in ula of europe. under communist yugoslavia, it was essentially the serbs who were dominant in the province and the republic of serbia that dominated the province. there was significant discrimination against the albanian majority. and it must be said as a general point the albanians the very legitimate and historical grievance. in 1976, the communist government under tito engineered a major change of policy. and in this new policy, the...
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in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns about the obama administration in europe anyway has been that he tended to take his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some of the parts of the world where relations have been previously more complicated. and there could be a reaction by europeans. and he's going to need allies in places like afghanistan. >> it's funny, because i think that goes to the previous question, too. i think one of the reasons why there isn't a trend right now is that the u.s. -- at least around the world -- is not as polarizing as it has been in the past,
in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns...
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you will take on eastern europe and have new liabilities.an alliance is to create military security for the members. i can see the justification for expanding nato. these have the courage of your convictions and see it all the way through to the end. -- then you should have the courage of your convictions and see at all the way through to the end. >> i have a question in a different plane but on the same highway. -- i have a question in a different lane but on the same highway. an important thing is a vibrant and strong economy. if we look at times that have changed our nation, september 14, 2007, had to do with bear stearns and lehman brothers. that brought to our attention a long-term deficit trend as well as a short-term tremendous blow to our economy. for the people in here, should that date symbolize -- the along the lines of the berlin wall, 9/11, that it affected our nations in that way? it looks like a trend that will happen for a while. se>> this goes back to john owen 's first question about how we know when we are in one of these
you will take on eastern europe and have new liabilities.an alliance is to create military security for the members. i can see the justification for expanding nato. these have the courage of your convictions and see it all the way through to the end. -- then you should have the courage of your convictions and see at all the way through to the end. >> i have a question in a different plane but on the same highway. -- i have a question in a different lane but on the same highway. an...
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i'not saying there -- to really reject- in europe somehow re -europe in the 20thentury stole more ood and lost more suns by a factor, geometrical fact than the uted states did. and so they knowar. their resistence to war bad upon having been fought in the ckyard and front yard. i thought thatresident obama made -- i i do not think th the entrance of thunited states, certainly in iraq and a questi of contind presence eight ars after the event of 9/11 in afanistan and eight years afr the taliban -- is e test of a justar. >> lehrer: dyou think that esident obama made the case for afghanistan whi he was making his bipoint speech? >> a little was about pragmasm. the is this elaborate thing called just r theory which he did not go into fortunately. >> lehrer: that's very complica complicated. >> pretty raightforward. >> y have 30 seconds. >> i would be ppy to do it but he mentioned allhese different princiess, but then in the end d this is true about obama, says there is no reci. you have to go case by case. and soe made the case for afghanistan. and i thinhe pretty much saidi started out a
i'not saying there -- to really reject- in europe somehow re -europe in the 20thentury stole more ood and lost more suns by a factor, geometrical fact than the uted states did. and so they knowar. their resistence to war bad upon having been fought in the ckyard and front yard. i thought thatresident obama made -- i i do not think th the entrance of thunited states, certainly in iraq and a questi of contind presence eight ars after the event of 9/11 in afanistan and eight years afr the taliban...
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if we pushed them into central europe, that russia would align with china. russia democracy would collapse. overall that it would result in a very significant cost to the united states. >> this is a sit u wages where you have the power inevitably balanced. this is featured prominently in the argument of historians. this was to a different setting. the world was not by pole ar. although russia did take a cour course. everyone if you take today's russia and say, that's why we have today's russia. it's a vague dispute. finally in the 2:00 i have left, a very interesting case of iraq. here we have a buildup and a short window to develop their argument. the window for scholars to figure out what's happening and come up with codes and arguments. the scholars that oppose this are exactly the same people who exhibihed. they argue that had this was a bad idea. >> to conclude, now going over by a minute. i would say the overall scholarly performance in these three episodes are not amazing. to agree the scholar would have gone a wry, the disconnect between making decis
if we pushed them into central europe, that russia would align with china. russia democracy would collapse. overall that it would result in a very significant cost to the united states. >> this is a sit u wages where you have the power inevitably balanced. this is featured prominently in the argument of historians. this was to a different setting. the world was not by pole ar. although russia did take a cour course. everyone if you take today's russia and say, that's why we have today's...
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little think we worry much about europe. as europe -- i don't think we worry much about europe. as they become more powerful i think we made. i don't think the average american thinks in -- thinks of europe in the way europeans want them to. >> the obama administration in europe is that he has taken his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some parts of the world where relations have been more complicated. there could be a reaction by europeans. he will need allies in afghanistan. >> that goes to the previous question. one of the reasons there is not a trend right al is that the u.s. around the world is not as polarizing as it has been in the past, with both republicans and democrats. issues reject elections are decided by issues on the ground and not cold war issues. you could go through europe and look at elections that turn on whether you work anti-american enough. -- whether you were anti- american enough. no one ever thinks they get enough time from the american president, and is positive and some ways troubling because the world needs leadership. we are very i
little think we worry much about europe. as europe -- i don't think we worry much about europe. as they become more powerful i think we made. i don't think the average american thinks in -- thinks of europe in the way europeans want them to. >> the obama administration in europe is that he has taken his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some parts of the world where relations have been more complicated. there could be a reaction by europeans. he will need allies in...
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in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns about the obama administration in europe anyway has been that he tended to take his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some of the parts of the world where relations have been previously more complicated. and there could be a reaction by europeans. and he's going to need allies in places like afghanistan. >> it's funny, because i think that goes to the previous question, too. i think one of the reasons why there isn't a trend right now is that the u.s. -- at least around the world -- is not as polarizing as it has been in the past,
in the last decade, because it was europe. while we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns...
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in the last decade, because it was europe.hile we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns about the obama administration in europe anyway has been that he tended to take his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some of the parts of the world where relations have been previously more complicated. and there could be a reaction by europeans. and he's going to need allies in places like afghanistan. >> it's funny, because i think that goes to the previous question, too. i think one of the reasons why there isn't a trend right now is that the u.s. -- at least around the world -- is not as polarizing as it has been in the past, am
in the last decade, because it was europe.hile we young our hands, while there were exponentially more devastating genocide being committed in africa. and not taking a position, it's just a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time, because i don't think the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> actually, one of the concerns about...
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the very early on there's discussion about nato moving into eastern europe. of this is an internal policy discussions, so this is public. polls, hungarians publicly for consideration. the massing nato membership but kind i have partnership. it's not uncontroversial. the polish calls are received coldly in the state department at first. and the whole issue gets pushed out the agenda by saddam hussein. but when he invades kuwait. but there's enough of it that gorbachev picks up on it and in conversations with baker, she says, you know, well the decision is a relic phase where he tried to come up with structural to post-cold war europe. you've come up with this common european home and it's not really working and he says to baker you guys had the g-7 and the ec 12 and the m-16. how about we have an e. seven and a bridge organization. and baker says that's not really going to work in gorbachev says went away but russia and nato. the soviet union, i'm sorry. the soviet union nato and baker says while that's a fantasy. let's take an world of reality. in gorbachev k
the very early on there's discussion about nato moving into eastern europe. of this is an internal policy discussions, so this is public. polls, hungarians publicly for consideration. the massing nato membership but kind i have partnership. it's not uncontroversial. the polish calls are received coldly in the state department at first. and the whole issue gets pushed out the agenda by saddam hussein. but when he invades kuwait. but there's enough of it that gorbachev picks up on it and in...
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because it was europe. we wrung our hands and while there were exponentially more genocide committed in africa. not taking a position but it's a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time. i don't think that the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> one concern about the obama administration in europe is that he tended to take his allies for granted in focusing on reaching out to some of the parts of the world where relations have been more complicated. and there could be a reaction by opinions and he will need allies. >> that's funny and that goes to the previous question. i think one reason why there isn't a trend, because the u.s. and at least around the world, it's not as polarizing as in the past. for both democrats and republicans. and issues are not influenced by cold war issues or u.s. diplomacy. and you can go around europe and see where thes
because it was europe. we wrung our hands and while there were exponentially more genocide committed in africa. not taking a position but it's a way of highlighting the deep connections between. so i don't think we worry much about europe. i think as europe integrates and becomes more powerful, we may over time. i don't think that the average american thinks of europe in the way that europeans want to. >> one concern about the obama administration in europe is that he tended to take his...
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our country, western europe, japan, we have been true it.where in the world, that shift is well underway. they know what produces that shift. they used to think it was industrialization but that is just an indirect factor. actually, there are four factors that bring about that change. the education of girls. number two -- [applause] -- men, did you notice a slightly higher pitch to that reaction? you will like this a second one too. the empowerment of women to take part in the decisions of society. [applause] number three, the availability of fertility management to give families the ability to choose how many children. in ways that are culturally acceptable country by country. number four, most importantly, hi your child survival rate.@ú3t removed in order to implement these solutions. we have got the solutions. we got more than we need. in order to implement them we have got to move the obstacles in our path. a focus on three of them in particular and we are running out of time. i am not going to go into detail but we have political obstac
our country, western europe, japan, we have been true it.where in the world, that shift is well underway. they know what produces that shift. they used to think it was industrialization but that is just an indirect factor. actually, there are four factors that bring about that change. the education of girls. number two -- [applause] -- men, did you notice a slightly higher pitch to that reaction? you will like this a second one too. the empowerment of women to take part in the decisions of...
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we seem to forget that malaria was endemic in much of europe and the u.s. and even endemic in the arctic circle in finland in the 18th and 19th hundreds. we still have a lawyer. the last big malaria endemic in holland ended in 1946. italy was only declared mulligan free in 1970. we have forgotten that we had huge of our developed world under molly appeared as we got rich, and as temperatures increase out of all of this, we thought mallya disappeared because we got richer. that's an important message to say just malaria is related to climate but it is strongly related to wealth. again the question is if we were at about people with malaya should reverse focus on doing something about climate change or should we perhaps were about getting mosquito nets and treatments to many of these people. lets take a look at what we can do. again, the picture is a very, very clear that if we do the kyoto protocol can probably avoid 1400 people dying every year. from malaria. i would like to be part of a civilization that cares about 1400 people and make sure they don't die
we seem to forget that malaria was endemic in much of europe and the u.s. and even endemic in the arctic circle in finland in the 18th and 19th hundreds. we still have a lawyer. the last big malaria endemic in holland ended in 1946. italy was only declared mulligan free in 1970. we have forgotten that we had huge of our developed world under molly appeared as we got rich, and as temperatures increase out of all of this, we thought mallya disappeared because we got richer. that's an important...
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this is related to europe of 2020.milar -- we have one minute to ask questions. >> thank you, president. i wanted to ask a question of the commission. within the socialist group that had a question on the hearings. the commissioner's hearings. from the socialist group there are no political gains to change portfolios. we do not have the competence to change the portfolios. however, the competence of the president of the commission. that is where it is chosen from our political group, from the liberals and socialist group. we should not have the confidence to change portfolios now, changing portfolios from the proposed commissioners. after the question -- >> it was not a question so i do not have to answer. i would like to say the following. the principle of loyalty between the institutions and also now that we have a new treaty, we need to respect the competence of each institution. i said to you how important it is to have a special relationship between the commission and the parliament and i will work for that. but t
this is related to europe of 2020.milar -- we have one minute to ask questions. >> thank you, president. i wanted to ask a question of the commission. within the socialist group that had a question on the hearings. the commissioner's hearings. from the socialist group there are no political gains to change portfolios. we do not have the competence to change the portfolios. however, the competence of the president of the commission. that is where it is chosen from our political group, from...
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zogby in that i don't think we see the susceptibility as we do in europe. one thing that's common between the two of them is a separation of the cells or bunch of guys from their own muslim community. it makes law enforcement and relying on muslim community to interact with law enforcement more problematic. they are not separating from american society, but even separate for example their own muslim community. this makes this engagement even more problematic. i tend to think that engaging like the way our law enforcement are with leaders is the way to go in this area. if you want to protect civil liberties and you are not wanting interest of law enforcement tactics, the way to go is engage the leaders. like we have done successfully, we have really great examples of how this worked. >> thank you. do you believe that domestic radicalization is a threat in the united states? >> there many threats and that is one among them. we are talking abouty semantic issues. we had 1.3 million violent crimes in the united states reported in 2008. certainly it's a threat.
zogby in that i don't think we see the susceptibility as we do in europe. one thing that's common between the two of them is a separation of the cells or bunch of guys from their own muslim community. it makes law enforcement and relying on muslim community to interact with law enforcement more problematic. they are not separating from american society, but even separate for example their own muslim community. this makes this engagement even more problematic. i tend to think that engaging like...
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is that what he meant by leading the way in europe? >> prime minister? >> mr. speaker, i am surprised that he spends most of his time raising issues that were not even discussed at the european meeting and i think it would be better that it would be better if he addressed all the issues that i put to the house this afternoon and addressed them in a bit more detail. the first -- the first i may say, is the issues related to afghanistan. and i think it's very important to recognize that there is all party agreement on these matters. and not to exaggerate any difference between us about this particular sensitive time. when more trooper going into afghanistan, where we are persuading the afghan forces to increase the number in the helmand province and where we are trying to extend the civilian and military cooperation so that we can tackle effectively the taliban insurgency by weakening them and strengthening the afghan state. i did say to him that we were increasing our presence in hellmann's. but so too is the american presence increasing in helmand. and that was
is that what he meant by leading the way in europe? >> prime minister? >> mr. speaker, i am surprised that he spends most of his time raising issues that were not even discussed at the european meeting and i think it would be better that it would be better if he addressed all the issues that i put to the house this afternoon and addressed them in a bit more detail. the first -- the first i may say, is the issues related to afghanistan. and i think it's very important to recognize...
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that is well understood in europe.t cure yussly not understood in the english language literature. you keep seeing things appearing, u.s. foreign policy, that talk about the conscious decision of the east german government to open the wall, which there was not one. and it's important that it's accidental, because it catches everyone unaware. so everyone is starting on a level playing field. and the date on which it occurs is significant because it happens early enough in the gorbechov's trajectory that he still has enough time to determine the outcome. of course, the wall was going to open at some point. but if it had happened a lot later, if it had happened after his authority had fallen apart, perhaps at the same time that the coup was going on in the soviet union, if it had happened after the violence in romania. so the fact that it owns by accident when it does is very significant. and when i looked at the documents from all these countries about this time period, i saw again and again that policy makers, to descri
that is well understood in europe.t cure yussly not understood in the english language literature. you keep seeing things appearing, u.s. foreign policy, that talk about the conscious decision of the east german government to open the wall, which there was not one. and it's important that it's accidental, because it catches everyone unaware. so everyone is starting on a level playing field. and the date on which it occurs is significant because it happens early enough in the gorbechov's...
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we did discuss economic cooperation across europe. did discuss the fiscal stimulus that has been necessary to bring the economy forward and to move economies out of recession. would be necessary to bring the economy forward and to move economies out of recession. there are 12 european economies still in recession. a number of economies, including germany, have suffered a far worse recession than we have. we have the highest employment rate in the g-7. unemployment is lower than in most of the other countries that are comparable to us as a result of the actions we have taken. i just have to say there is agreement that we needed to take a fiscal stimulus so that the economy could move forward. there is agreement that we should have taken action to restructure the banks. there is agreement that the fiscal stimulus should continue. there is agreement that we must all take action against unemployment and to help small businesses in these difficulties by providing government funds to do so. the only group that seems to stand outside that ag
we did discuss economic cooperation across europe. did discuss the fiscal stimulus that has been necessary to bring the economy forward and to move economies out of recession. would be necessary to bring the economy forward and to move economies out of recession. there are 12 european economies still in recession. a number of economies, including germany, have suffered a far worse recession than we have. we have the highest employment rate in the g-7. unemployment is lower than in most of the...
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i think it's, i studied in europe many years ago. and i was, i envoyed their -- envied their health care system 40 years ago. it is bound to be better now. i think we have one of the worst health care systems in the world. i think it is a tragedy. i think many more people are going to die. i don't think health care costs are going to be held down. i think this is disaster. and the republicans are probably, celebrating. and, they have brought a president down who, has, who had all the capital in the world and, i think it is a tragedy. >> host: north adams maine, or massachusetts. rick on the independent line. good morning. >> caller: good morning. >> host: go ahead, rick, what are your thoughts on democrats likely to drop the medication provision, expanding it? >> caller: i hope not. i really do. >> host: why is that, rick? >> caller: because i'm 59 but i'm disabled. i have, i have parkinson's, and, if that he is the only thing that is keeping me from bankruptcy. >> host: okay. charleston, indiana, jan on the democrats line. you're ne
i think it's, i studied in europe many years ago. and i was, i envoyed their -- envied their health care system 40 years ago. it is bound to be better now. i think we have one of the worst health care systems in the world. i think it is a tragedy. i think many more people are going to die. i don't think health care costs are going to be held down. i think this is disaster. and the republicans are probably, celebrating. and, they have brought a president down who, has, who had all the capital in...
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-- an existential threat to europe? >> it is a matter of concern that we have, according to opinion polls, seen a decline in the public support for our presence in afghanistan. i think that people want to see progress on the ground. so you live. and this is also the reason why it is so important to ensure an afghan lead transition, to afghan lead responsibility for security as well as development. and security-wise, it means that we will hand over lead security responsibility to the afghan security forces. district by district, province by province, as their own capacity develops and when conditions permit to do so. it will be a condition-based transition to afghan lead, but based on what we know about the security situation in different parts of afghanistan, i find it realistic that we will be able to transfer lead responsibility to the afghans in 10 to 15 areas and districts already next year. but i have to stress that this transition to afghan lead will be condition-based. we will not leave unless we feel sure that t
-- an existential threat to europe? >> it is a matter of concern that we have, according to opinion polls, seen a decline in the public support for our presence in afghanistan. i think that people want to see progress on the ground. so you live. and this is also the reason why it is so important to ensure an afghan lead transition, to afghan lead responsibility for security as well as development. and security-wise, it means that we will hand over lead security responsibility to the...
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>> guest: it's all across europe, same thing in the u.k.. and it goes even deeper than the concerns about conservation. it is being shown young children need nature for healthy psychological development. trees and flowers and things like that are really important. they did a study in chicago where they took two areas of high crime and one area where they put -- the useful of the empty vacant lots and the did window box and and everything they could to green. the author they left and the rate of crime dropped significantly in the area which they need green so this is why people say to me why have you left the chimpanzees? why are you working with children so much in the program so for two reasons one is i have grandchildren that find in tanzania they play like children outside and my son was raised in tanzania and he did, too but i see so many of the people i know in the u.s. and europe who are just as you described durham not play out in the wild. >> host: you mentioned the roots and shoots program. tell more about that. that is a global pro
>> guest: it's all across europe, same thing in the u.k.. and it goes even deeper than the concerns about conservation. it is being shown young children need nature for healthy psychological development. trees and flowers and things like that are really important. they did a study in chicago where they took two areas of high crime and one area where they put -- the useful of the empty vacant lots and the did window box and and everything they could to green. the author they left and the...
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we need better security as they found in europe.y have been facing this problem a lot longer particularly in france. one of osama bin laden's objectives is to give us in the united states a national nervous breakdown. we musn't let him do this by overreacting to these events however ugly and nasty they are. >> larry: harry, how do you get petn? >> it is a military explosive. it has to be derived through a group -- >> larry: al qaeda could get it? >> al qaeda. it is clearly a strong indicator this guy had support from an al qaeda type franchise or al qaeda. >> larry: how does he get through security? >> well, look at the path that this guy took. he first got aboard a klm aircraft in lagos, nigeria. then he went to amsterdam. i understand he was held in a sanitized area, in other words an area that would segregate him from the general population of the airport because he is transiting to another transatlantic flight. no screening. he is being held in this sanitized area. now from there to detroit. so what we're talking about is a poss
we need better security as they found in europe.y have been facing this problem a lot longer particularly in france. one of osama bin laden's objectives is to give us in the united states a national nervous breakdown. we musn't let him do this by overreacting to these events however ugly and nasty they are. >> larry: harry, how do you get petn? >> it is a military explosive. it has to be derived through a group -- >> larry: al qaeda could get it? >> al qaeda. it is...
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is emerging in europe. an enormous amount of movement on iran. the dutch parliality passed a bill outlawing the reigning clerical army, the dutch parliament outlawed them and asked the european union to consider a europe wide band. and there was legislation passed to make it illegal that iran use the shipping lines. and there is a review process of the sanctions they are likely to propose at the european level or international level in january or february. the point of the piece to point out that we are exceptionalists and that's not the case, there are momentum emerging in europe, the europeans look more serious than we do on confronting iran. the initial paragraph was obviously tongue in cheek, but it bears noting that the obama administration is on the cusp of a serious review of engagement of iran. it's not a secret that engagement has not met much dividends, and the question is what we do next. the thing i was trying to hammer home, what we do in the next steps we could learn a lot to look across the p
is emerging in europe. an enormous amount of movement on iran. the dutch parliality passed a bill outlawing the reigning clerical army, the dutch parliament outlawed them and asked the european union to consider a europe wide band. and there was legislation passed to make it illegal that iran use the shipping lines. and there is a review process of the sanctions they are likely to propose at the european level or international level in january or february. the point of the piece to point out...
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europe? i don't think so. they charge $424.t is the pricing policy. >> wouldn't pharmaceutical companies say because we have to absorb the cost of all of the research that went into developing nexium. >> that is also always raised. if you don't allow us to charge the american consumer the highest prices in the world, we don't get to do the research and development. but you know what? most of the recent studies have shown that those studies, the pharmaceutical spends more money on promotion, marketing, and advertising than they do on research. i want them to do research. there's one on piece, the congress gave without my support the proposal with the american money bring it back and let them pay lower. guess which industry was one of the largest? the pharmaceutical industry. now if we are making big profits abroad gouging your prices, why can't the american people have access to those prices? it's not because they are going to lose money. because they know they have made money abroad. >> do the seniors like his state and travel
europe? i don't think so. they charge $424.t is the pricing policy. >> wouldn't pharmaceutical companies say because we have to absorb the cost of all of the research that went into developing nexium. >> that is also always raised. if you don't allow us to charge the american consumer the highest prices in the world, we don't get to do the research and development. but you know what? most of the recent studies have shown that those studies, the pharmaceutical spends more money on...
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the ancestors both immediate and distance of the vast maturity of american jews lived in europe. where the forces that saved the emancipation of the jews in granting of civil rights and liberties to them, had always been located somewhere on the left side of the political spectrum. and in the 20th century america, especially after the ascension of franklin delano roosevelt, the closest counterpart to these forces was the democratic party. conversely, the political right seemed to represent an american version of a conservative forces in europe which had always opposed equal rights for jews. it made perfect sense then for jews to align themselves with the left and to keep their distance from the right, where they were in any case unwelcome. but then something momentous happened. that began to rub his political commitments to the sense they had always made. this momentous event was the six day war of 1967. to be sure, even before 1967, and the decades following the end of world war ii, jews are themselves getting more and more out of political step with the other white members of t
the ancestors both immediate and distance of the vast maturity of american jews lived in europe. where the forces that saved the emancipation of the jews in granting of civil rights and liberties to them, had always been located somewhere on the left side of the political spectrum. and in the 20th century america, especially after the ascension of franklin delano roosevelt, the closest counterpart to these forces was the democratic party. conversely, the political right seemed to represent an...
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they do this in europe routinely. they actually have parallel trading where you can purchase drugs one country to another, no problem. the biggest -- here's what he says. the biggest argument against reimporttation is safety. what everyone has conveniently forgotten to tell you is that in europe, reimportation has been in place for 20 years. so they all say oh, this is going to be unsafe, you can't do it. europe has been doing it 20 years. don't tell me we don't have the capability to do that. if europe can do it, we can do it. now, why would we do it? because it's -- it's unfair to the american people to be paying double, triple, or quadruple or ten times the cost of prescription drugs that is being paid for by people in the rest of the world. that's unfair. it doesn't make any sense to me. so we offer an amendment. it is one of the few amendments here in the united states senate in recent days and weeks that is bipartisan. most of the things that have been offered here aren't bipartisan. this is an amendment dorgan-
they do this in europe routinely. they actually have parallel trading where you can purchase drugs one country to another, no problem. the biggest -- here's what he says. the biggest argument against reimporttation is safety. what everyone has conveniently forgotten to tell you is that in europe, reimportation has been in place for 20 years. so they all say oh, this is going to be unsafe, you can't do it. europe has been doing it 20 years. don't tell me we don't have the capability to do that....
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had he prevailed, europe would have been at islamic to the rhine river in 1527. that is a major turning point* in history. >> host: what do your source is? >> guest: i have an office and the library of congress and that is the best library in the world by far. with this book and others of medieval history, there are contemporaneously chronicles. those are the most immediate resources and the once that are the areas of people who were there. that is what we've up 427 you talk about the correlation between 9/11 and this period in history. with this research are you constantly reminded of that? >> i have never done any history not relevant to the current day. that is a litmus test for me. and it seemed after 9/11 it was important for americans to understand they were not the first ones to have this kind of clash with the islamic world. . .
had he prevailed, europe would have been at islamic to the rhine river in 1527. that is a major turning point* in history. >> host: what do your source is? >> guest: i have an office and the library of congress and that is the best library in the world by far. with this book and others of medieval history, there are contemporaneously chronicles. those are the most immediate resources and the once that are the areas of people who were there. that is what we've up 427 you talk about...
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and does she share my concern and divisions and the group of allies of the party opposite in europe and the fact that over half the group oppose the european talks? >> the leader of the house. well, as the prime minister said, it is an uphill task at copenhagen. but there couldn't be a more important task to get all the countries of the world to agree on tackling climate change. and there is, as she says, indeed a contrast between the prime minister at the center of events being the first -- he was the first -- he was the first world leader to decide personally to go to copenhagen. and what a contrast as he works with other world leaders that the shadow foreign secretary has not been able to persuade his own side that climate change is important. >> mr. speaker, first may i join the lady of the house in recording our sad physicals in of the news last night of the death of two british soldiers of the third battalion in the rifle serving in afghanistan. over christmas and the holidays over the entire efforts of the men and women in the theater of war must never be far from our minds.
and does she share my concern and divisions and the group of allies of the party opposite in europe and the fact that over half the group oppose the european talks? >> the leader of the house. well, as the prime minister said, it is an uphill task at copenhagen. but there couldn't be a more important task to get all the countries of the world to agree on tackling climate change. and there is, as she says, indeed a contrast between the prime minister at the center of events being the first...
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to europe to singapore. the u.s. discovered about 800 alleged packages of suspicious prescription drugs including viagra, fi gooding and declared it in and shut down 68 alleged pharmacies. counterfeit pharmaceutical drugs are appearing on the market at alarming rates. in 2007 drugs comprised 6% of the total counterfeit product seized. in one year, they've now jumped to 10% of all counterfeit product seizures. this growing problem is all about unscrupulous criminals prey on the sick and elderly who are in desperate need of cheap drugs. but the consequences are harmful and some cases directly. officials estimate some of these counterfeit drugs contained either a dangerous amount of active ingredients or were placebos. some counterfeits include toxic chemicals such as dry wall material, and to freeze and even yellow hi we paint. according to a recent "washington post" article, tracing the origins of drugs such as clsa and viagra took investigators across the globe and back again. supposedly these drugs came from a wareh
to europe to singapore. the u.s. discovered about 800 alleged packages of suspicious prescription drugs including viagra, fi gooding and declared it in and shut down 68 alleged pharmacies. counterfeit pharmaceutical drugs are appearing on the market at alarming rates. in 2007 drugs comprised 6% of the total counterfeit product seized. in one year, they've now jumped to 10% of all counterfeit product seizures. this growing problem is all about unscrupulous criminals prey on the sick and elderly...
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zogby in that i don't think we see the susceptibility as we do in europe.ne thing that's common between the two of them is a separation of the cells or bunch of guys from their own muslim community. it makes law enforcement and relying on muslim community to interact with law enforcement more problematic. they are not separating from american society, but even separate for example their own muslim community. this makes this engagement even more problematic. i tend to think that engaging like the way our law enforcement are with leaders is the way to go in this area. if you want to protect civil liberties and you are not wanting interest of law enforcement tactics, the way to go is engage the leaders. like we have done successfully, we have really great examples of how this worked. >> thank you. do you believe that domestic radicalization is a threat in the united states? >> there many threats and that is one among them. we are talking abouty semantic issues. we had 1.3 million violent crimes in the united states reported in 2008. certainly it's a threat. pa
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is that what he meant by leading the way in europe? >> prime minister? >> mr.aker, i am surprised that he spends most of his time raising issues that were not even discussed at the european meeting and i think it would be better that it would be better if he addressed all the issues that i put to the house this afternoon and addressed them in a bit more detail. the first -- the first i may say, is the issues related to afghanistan. and i think it's very important to recognize that there is all party agreement on these matters. and not to exaggerate any difference between us about this particular sensitive time. when more trooper going into afghanistan, where we are persuading the afghan forces to increase the number in the helmand province and where we are trying to extend the civilian and military cooperation so that we can tackle effectively the taliban insurgency by weakening them and strengthening the afghan state. i did say to him that we were increasing our presence in hellmann's. but so too is the american presence increasing in helmand. and that was the
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europe was hurt. and they step out and give us the money. sort of in the same way that aig got the money. so -- i mean, from the crisis china was -- the unemployment grew and, you know, their g.d.p. slowed down seriously. so the world kind of like has shown us that they are willing to bail us out the same way that the government showed to aig they are too big to fail. so i have a problem here and i just don't know -- i haven't made up my mind, but i think, you know, why to change their behavior of the -- why to lower our income and ability to buy things if that is going to, you know, evidently that's going to hurt china if our -- you know, you're suggesting that we should kind of slow down our consumption. that's not in the best interest of a lot of countries out there. china depends on us -- >> i'm not suggesting we can't count on, you know, an unlimited supply of credit from china. what i'm saying it's somewhere between here and infinity is a point at which any rational creditor will say, you know, that's just too much. now, that point cou
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you will take on eastern europe and have new liabilities.an alliance is to create military security for the members. i can see the justification for expanding nato. these have the courage of your convictions and see it all the way through to the end. -- then you should have the courage of your convictions and see at all the way through to the end. >> i have a question in a different plane but on the same highway. -- i have a question in a different lane but on the same highway. an important thing is a vibrant and strong economy. if we look at times that have changed our nation, september 14, 2007, had to do with bear stearns and lehman brothers. that brought to our attention a long-term deficit trend as well as a short-term tremendous blow to our economy. for the people in here, should that date symbolize -- the along the lines of the berlin wall, 9/11, that it affected our nations in that way? it looks like a trend that will happen for a while. se>> this goes back to john owen 's first question about how we know when we are in one of these
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and if you look across europe, this post-christian europe that i have talked about, the churches that were built when there was a dynamic faithful force and i'll say prior to, during and post the industrial revolution, if you look at the churches, the gothic architecture that was there, you can see there was a powerful force. that has been diminished. and i will argue, it has been diminished in real part because the role of faith, role of our families and community pulling together, the places of worship, the churches, has been replaced by the government. if the government can provide you with all the health care that you need and your own personalized health insurance premium, which is advocated by the people of this side of the aisle, opposite side of the aisle, i want to make that clear for the record. if government can take care of rent subsidy and give you a child care credit and pay you for the children you have and the government can pay you for the earned income tax credit so if you don't make enough money, they cut you a check for that, the government can replace all that the
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. >> woodruff: then, from europe, margaret warner's latest dispatch on attitudes toward afghanistan. >> germany has the third largest contingent ofo troops in afghanistan but so far has resisted on sending more. i will explore way in a special report from berlin. >> lehrer: and mark shields and david brooks analyze the week's news. that's coming, on tonight's pbs newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour is provided by: monsanto. producing more. conserving more. improving farmers' lives. that's sustainable agriculture. more at producemoreconservemore.com. >> chevron. this is the power of human energy. intel. supporting coverage of innovation and the economy. and by toyota. and the william and flora hewlett foundation, working to solve social and environmental problems at home and around the world. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> lehrer: the u.s. house today approved the most sweeping over
. >> woodruff: then, from europe, margaret warner's latest dispatch on attitudes toward afghanistan. >> germany has the third largest contingent ofo troops in afghanistan but so far has resisted on sending more. i will explore way in a special report from berlin. >> lehrer: and mark shields and david brooks analyze the week's news. that's coming, on tonight's pbs newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour is provided by: monsanto. producing more. conserving more. improving...
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passengers traveling inside europe, and i gave you my daughter that traveled inside europe today, they didn't experience any extensive delays. if you're traveling to the united states, you can certainly expect that longer screening process, larry. of course, the security at these airport security, officials very, very concerned and now have another set of possibilities that they have to deal with. perhaps the possibility of people wearing some kind of garment that may have an explosive hidden, concealed within that garment. that's something new. a new concern for them, larry. >> larry: it's a different world, folks. can we assume that now detroit is considered edgy, so if you get sick on a plane or go to the bathroom for ten minutes and you're going into detroit, they're going to have problems with you? >> reporter: it's not just detroit anymore, larry. it's any destination within the united states, especially from aircraft coming from overseas. there are new restrictions putting on by the tsa and airlines that are requesting -- actually demanding that passengers have to remain in her
passengers traveling inside europe, and i gave you my daughter that traveled inside europe today, they didn't experience any extensive delays. if you're traveling to the united states, you can certainly expect that longer screening process, larry. of course, the security at these airport security, officials very, very concerned and now have another set of possibilities that they have to deal with. perhaps the possibility of people wearing some kind of garment that may have an explosive hidden,...
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it is an insult, in my judgment, to the american people to say, oh, you can make this work in europe for the benefit of the consumer to get lower prices, but the americans don't have the capability to make this happen, don't have the capability to manage it. that is absurd, and i think the safety issue is unbelievably bogus. mr. mccain: and -- and -- i might ask my friend from north dakota again, haven't we seen this movie before? the movie i'm talking about is that have we have an amendment or legislation pending before the body or in committee that will allow for drug reimportation, as you just point out from that previous chart, in the totally safe manner and then there is always, thanks to the pharmaceutical lobbyist, of which i believe there are 535 pharmaceutical lobbyists -- a lobbyist and a half for every member of congress -- that an amendment passes that then basically prohibits the reimportation of drugs. haven't we seen this movie before? and apparent nowl that another deal was made so that they're now going to have sufficient votes to, again, cost the consumers of americ
it is an insult, in my judgment, to the american people to say, oh, you can make this work in europe for the benefit of the consumer to get lower prices, but the americans don't have the capability to make this happen, don't have the capability to manage it. that is absurd, and i think the safety issue is unbelievably bogus. mr. mccain: and -- and -- i might ask my friend from north dakota again, haven't we seen this movie before? the movie i'm talking about is that have we have an amendment or...
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that has happened in eastern europe and elsewhere. we see china where socialism has crept out of the economy and there isn't that much of a pure socialist approach that there yesterday. you see that happening without any real democracy coming into being, either. host: professor henry farrell, thank you for coming on the program. it is written about how the obamas are spending their vacation in her eye -- spending their vacation in hawaii. we will talk more about the president and their retreat after this break thisken walsh of "u.s. news and world report." >> in the mid-1990s, "newsweek" named omar wasow one of the most influential people in cyberspace. sunday night, he talks about his current studies at harvard and what÷head on cspan's "q&a." >> now available, the cspan book, "abraham lincoln." it is a unique, contemporaries perspective on life and from $56, a journalist, and writers. it is from lincoln's early years to his years in the white house and its relevance today. you can get it at your favorite bookstore -- bookseller. lear
that has happened in eastern europe and elsewhere. we see china where socialism has crept out of the economy and there isn't that much of a pure socialist approach that there yesterday. you see that happening without any real democracy coming into being, either. host: professor henry farrell, thank you for coming on the program. it is written about how the obamas are spending their vacation in her eye -- spending their vacation in hawaii. we will talk more about the president and their retreat...
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>> guest: all across europe, same thing. same thing in the uk. and it goes even deeper than concerns about conservation. it's been shown that young children need nature for healthy psychological development. trees and flowers and things like that are really important. they need -- did a study in chicago, took two areas of high crime. one area they took empty lots and made them green, window boxes and greened it. the other one they left, and the rate of crime drop significantly in the area where they made green. so, this is why -- people say to me, why have you left the chimp pan seize and working with children? for two reasons. one is i have grandchildren, and they play like children outside, and my son was raised in tanzania, but i see so many of the people i know in the u.s. and europe who are just as you describe, kids do not play out in the wild. >> host: you mentioned this program. tell me more about that. it's a global program designed to, what, get kids to invest in nature? >> guest: it's a bit more than that. it's a symbolic name. if you
>> guest: all across europe, same thing. same thing in the uk. and it goes even deeper than concerns about conservation. it's been shown that young children need nature for healthy psychological development. trees and flowers and things like that are really important. they need -- did a study in chicago, took two areas of high crime. one area they took empty lots and made them green, window boxes and greened it. the other one they left, and the rate of crime drop significantly in the area...