blowing welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle separate but equal more and more europeans are rethinking the pillars of the modern nation state there is wide agreement that the sovereignty of speech must be respected but what about the growing issue of self-determination if a population wants to create their own state why should they. start. to cross-talk the modern nation state i'm joined by christian winning in berlin he is the secretary general of the union of european federalists in belfast we have anthony rosato he is a political commentator and former irish political activist and in munich we crossed the jose newness he is a professor of the department of modern american history at the university of santiago de compostela all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want christian if i go to you first so we're returning to an age of nationalism a new nationalism considering what's going over going on in europe we're talking about the separatism that we see the so-called vulcanization of europe and all over the wall we have these strivings but

to be really european like they're swimming in a pool and of course then it must be a european identity i'm not sure if we should compare this to that let's say nationalistic reading nationalistic bound to an army bound to a football team type of nationalism identity like we had it in our nation states let's keep that for the nation states why are we not looking to forward to a future government we very rarely if you don't apologise it is gentlemen thank you very much for us fascinating discussion many thanks today to my guests in brussels belfast and in munich and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at the next time and remember prosperity. and. destruction see. what could be just really. a great sacrifice. a remarkable reminder of courage and selflessness the future is of more. aoa. to all the songs i call.

well everything's fine so far in the european union to know that we have a development going through at the moment we have to overcome a crisis we have separatist movements but they all agree that we have to solve the crisis on the european federal level and i think we'll hold onto that for a while tony what do you think about that is there agreement. well i would disagree with or least the both britain and ireland for example in scotland at the moment is not quite clear what the study should separate us what with relation to foreign policy and in particular the security policies that britain's associated with because as you may well know britain has its polarised fleet. in scotland itself and the majority of scottish people by tradition would be left wing and are certainly not you know party to the british foreign policy at the moment so there's a serious political issue there ok jose what do you think about this i mean where is the continent going is it going to get stronger and stronger because it looks like there's a lot of people are not very happy well the thing is where this m

nation state i'm joined by christian winning in berlin he is the secretary general of the union of european federalists in belfast we have anthony rosado he is a political commentator and former irish political activist and in munich we crossed the jose newness he is a professor of the department of modern american history at the university of santiago de compostela all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want christian if i go to you first so we're returning to an age of nationalism a new nationalism considering what's going over going on in europe we're talking about the separatism that we see the so-called vulcanization of europe and all over the wall we have these strivings but i believe that we are getting into the consulate days and of especially the european union as as the other regions in the world see they can't cope together. there are only two or three states but they have to be a real region to count in the world on a global scale ok so that means everything's fine in the european union. well everything's fine so far in the european

mean if the independence referendum is sanctioned by a qualified majority of people i think this european union should simply accept is a from theoretical point of view we may as sort of see i mean from a different perspective a historian say yeah that being several waves of separatism . which actually. have been produced through the twentieth century after the end of world war after the second world war after eighty nine i mean we actually had to believe that the history had come to an end but he story continues and goes on and from tears are not it always sustainable not always the same christian it's a really good point i mean over the centuries even in europe we have more and more countries i mean why stop the process. no i totally agree peter with what antony said well i just want to go i just want to go ahead yeah i know that my point is that in a free empire i we're not talking about a european nation we're talking about a federal union which we call which will be something like empire has been in the past in a modern empire you need to let people come to you by attraction and not

between the european union and russia .

when people join the european union where they will joining a federal union and b. because you know what a lot of people will say is that they lost more and more of their freedoms to make decisions about their economies civil societies like cetera. well i totally disagree to that i mean of course the european union has to be based on subsidy or it's a principle which means that the decisions are made close as possible to the citizens on the other hand you know is that a case is that the case on sure thing is that the case let me finish yeah yeah of course about dontcha think that. in a case that a federal union existed with a federal strong budget that the sovereignty of the european citizens overall would be better than we have it now in that crisis we are all victims at the moment because we do not have a fully fledged clearly question is did people join to create something like the united states yeah i mean they point to they joined it to create a united states of europe that it has to be discussed i'm just saying yes there is an alternative to that and if they d

it is european in change in one school -- european exchange in one school, and that is a good thing. >> the european union rose from the ruins of postwar europe. the goal, a unified and peaceful europe, brought together many former enemies. the eu started as an economic union to help member states secure access to coal and steel. many leading politicians hoped common economic interests would ensure peace on the war-torn continent. >> if you look at european history with its battles and civil wars and millions dead, then the eu is an incredible achievement and it is important to preserve this achievement for the future. >> the fall of the berlin wall helped unite europe even more. 10 former east bloc countries had already joined the eu, not only in the hope of greater prosperity. ideals like democracy and human rights have also played a part. the euro made the union tangible to many europeans, even if some see it as a youth -- as a symbol of the eu's identity crisis. >> i would not claim that the european union is perfect in any way. but in my opinion, it is the best development in th

europeans now this is why it's as some of the european journalists are ready right and put is it is very difficult to. dispute what is written in our report because these are hard facts. why say the european union because the european union positions and most of its members position themselves as. blue words of democracy as certain yardsticks by which the international community absolutely must measure its own record wreckers in the field of human rights and nobody disputes by the way the fact that european union as such and european quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members develop democracies with longstanding democratic traditions and. quite a number of big achievements in the field of human rights these are facts as well and we don't dispute them in our report but what we see is that despite those facts there are some other facts there that are very serious challenges and problems in the european union and in each and every over its member countries in the field of human rights i still like to point out that in the wake of the e.u. summit skeptics are sa

union is in the european. quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members developed democracies with long standing democratic traditions and. quite a number of big achievements in the field of human rights these are facts as well and we don't dispute them in our report but what we see is that despite those facts there are some other facts there that are very serious challenges and problems in the european union and in each and every over its member countries in the field of human rights i still like to point out that in the wake of the e.u. summit skeptics are saying that russia indulges in fault finding work to put pressure on the european union can extract some concessions on tense issues like for example trade are under dispute what do you say to that well i must say that we take as russia would take human rights extremely seriously these are universal values and they have to be universal of course respected i mean universally not just in one or two. regions or areas rather than in t

ninety two it was based on european your economic. and increasingly since. all the second world war and you. know. people who were is that were originally supposed to be reconciled by the european you get it was between germany france britain the soviet union the united states and many other countries britain the united states and the soviet union never belong to the european community or to the european union and yet there has been peace in europe so whichever way you look at it this is a nonsensical judgment it's a. blatant historical sort of occasion and as your previous comment it's the fed it gives credit to the nobel prize itself so when you consider the protests and riots in the streets hundreds of arrests injuries it's not exactly a serene situation why has the nobel committee done this then. because they are like many institutions in hock to the sacred cows of political correctness they are themselves members of what i call a stingel european political class even though of course norway itself is not part of the e.u. which by

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why the european union because the european union positions and most of its members position themselves as. works of democracy as certain yardsticks by which the international community absolutely must measure its own record records in the field of human rights and nobody disputes by the way the fact that european union has the european quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members develop democracies but what we see is there despite those effects there are some other effects there are very serious challenges and problems in the european union and the in each and every or its member countries in the field of human rights. and we invite you to watch the full interview with the russian foreign ministry commission for human rights in about thirty minutes again here on r.t. tonight so heavy as well this hour yemen's president attempts to break away from the political heritage of the country's ousted leader with washington increased interest term affairs of the gulf state we examine why that may be very shortly. under god these men and women are walking one of the l

the plane that hit the european shops. ok that's all for mail be back in just under two hours time we've got news still often right here not a stay with us. the legacy no one should be proud. of scrap metal littering pristine arctic landscape building stilton over their foundation pipes spewing black smoke over the snow covered peaks the traces of the soviet industrial activity on the spitzbergen archipelago don't make a pretty picture the guiding principle here is the worse the better locals like to tell the story that back in soviet times when norwegians were visiting barons were they also an express lane. and how prosperous this was well times have obviously kenya where they saw it lags they still attracting a region tourists or barons work i would watch native cash that's why while. our goal is common as was uncovered here a few days ago instead of throwing it away the local administration decided to paint a venue and put it at variance with central square that can do nine hundred eighty barons work was a burgeoning mi

not part of this government policy it walked out of the european union we're not a member of the european of the euro zone that's clear and we believe we have good and sound reasons for not being a member of the euro zone we are of course affected by what happens in the euro zone because something like forty five our export over forty five percent of our exports go to the euro zone but the european union as a whole is a large single market and we believe there are many benefits from it and yet david cameron is rejecting the so-called e.u. fiscal pact what's going to be the consequence. that rejection how do you see that developing the physical part has to do with the euro zone and we're not a member of the euro zone and i do not intend to become a member of the euro zone so i think it's important to distinguish between what needs to be done by the eurozone members to stabilize the euro zone and find its way through some of its difficulties and the wider objectives of the european union as a whole which focus very strongly from an economic point of view on the single market and what do you

out of the european union they think the e.u. is a massive burden both in terms of tax amount of money you have to pay to the yuichi and of course it's very burden of course johnson did recently sign a pledge supporting an in-out referendum now unfortunately he has backtracked from that somewhat because he's now just calling for a renegotiated relationship between britain and the u. whereas previously he has actually supported only now referendum he signed that pledge just over i believe a month ago i did it. well he did support of pledge to have a referendum now of course he's arguing that britain should remain a part of the e.u. single market which is actually one of the major ways in the e.u. controls economic activity in the u.k. and regulates the british economy which is a massive regulator burden which really does hold back economic growth that's the same for countries across the year and it's quite damaging so he does need to be more you a skeptic if he's fully in tune with british public opinion which is really now. comin

use the europeans supporting basically supporting israel. and say in the middle east moscow believes that there's no in evidence partly the syrian government will use chemical weapons and says that the biggest threat to the country is if the militants get their hands on the arsenal. this comes after a video was released last week of an alleged rebel fighter threatening us with chemical weapons the source for that video is unconfirmed meanwhile activists so forty five people were killed in syria on sunday with battles raging in the capital of damascus and in aleppo rebel groups are also uniting under one military command in the latest western support of the effort to topple the assad regime we spoke to a political activist who says rebel militias could stage a chemical attack to discredit the government and to his opinion pave the way for military intervention. the danger is that the west is aware of such materials in syria but at the same time it's going to be used against the syrian government as a great text for intervention united states

why moscow decided to target europe why the european union because the european union positions and most of its members position themselves as. who works of democracy has certain yardsticks by which the international community absolutely must measure its own record wreckers in the field of human rights and nobody disputes by the way the fact that european union assertion the european quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members develop democracies but what we see is there despite those facts there are some other facts there are a very serious challenges and problems in the european union and in each and every over its member countries in the field of human rights and they can watch the full interview with the foreign ministries commissioner for human rights at six pm g.m.t. here in r.t. . also ahead for you this hour yemen's president attempts to break away from the political heritage of the country's ousted leader and show an increasing interest in internal affairs of the gulf states that want. us the u.k. is prepared to withdraw its troops from afghanistan an

woes i'm joined by james midway from the new economics foundation and james the european parliament president he's called on his colleagues to sort out this institutional mess at long last what exactly does it mean and could it be sorted out. well it's a it's a fair claim for him to be making a i can sense his frustration that similar frustration for an awful lot of people right the way across the continent now this situational mess is the same mess the plunged into ever since the start of the debt crisis back in october two thousand and nine you have a dysfunctional monetary union that they could try to resolve by bringing a banking union which they have elements of now bringing in proper support for potentially failing banks undercapitalised banks which they don't have by trying to introduce some form of fiscal and political union right the way across the entire eurozone which would allow some imbalances that developed to be resolved now that last one isn't going to happen any time soon and it doesn't look like despite whatever pleading or even angry words from european parliament

the european union says the efforts to remove him from office are undemocratic. one analyst says the fight has laid bare attitudes that are far from democratic. >> it was a huge misunderstanding from the social liberals who said, "we are the people and we want to take all the state for us because this is democracy. they did not understand the rule of law. the rule of law is more important. >> now that he survived the government's attempt to impeach him, he seems to be keeping himself out of the election campaign. the government oppose attempts to get rid of him he says are warranted, and he rejects outside criticism. >> the authoritarian style of the president is something which was very well known in romania, but it seems less well known at the level of the un member states. >> the ones behind the power struggle say the coalition is rolling back the previous government's attempts to fight corruption, a huge problem in romania. >> that was why. they wanted to have their own person at the end of the procedure line and to appoint the chief prosecutors they want. th

the announcement the european union was to pick up the twenty twelve gongs sparked a heated debate the award was being discredited particularly after the outrage of who's picked it up recently well to be frank inside the united states i don't think very many people pay attention to the nobel peace prize anymore large numbers of americans were stunned when yasser arafat received the nobel peace prize many years ago president obama was given a prize for reasons that no one understood see what's. done over the last twelve months to convince the nobel committee it's with the of such a prestigious award. it supported regime change in foreign countries and several member states indulged in violent crackdowns on demonstrators outraged by the failure of they government's. skeptics when it devalues the whole concept of the peace prize what's really happening is that the european union is having its worst year ever but it's mates in the international community coming to it's a brit to have been awarded of the announcement to be made in the very week that i went to athens i was greeted not just b

>> there is because there are european muslims. we have centers of european as lawmakers fought in denmark, london, berlin. as long has always been some kind of hybrid process adapting to its cultural surrounding. in senegal it is different to tehran and spain. >> how different is it outside of europe in the wider arab world, the middle east? >> they are more accepted outside of europe because europe is a shocking and islamic bloc because there's a need to find a european identity, especially now in the crisis. >> where do you see this going? do you see the creation of a broader european islamic bloc? >> islam house oe been adapted to its cultural surroundings and we can see european islam coming up in a lot of centers in europe. >> his specialist in the dialogue between the islamic world and the west, thank you. onto soccer now. dortmund with another victory under their belts helping the reigning champions close in on the league leaders. their season has been punctuated by ups and downs, but on sunday and, they notched up another

the debates with the prime minister on the british economy and the european union budget. the british particle jment in recess for the holidays. members return on january 7th. >> hello there. and welcome to the west minister review. our look back at the big events in parliament over the last three months. coming up in this program, the chancellor delivers the latest bleak economic view? his budget. david cameron's bench urges him to stand up to europe. >> i support absolutely. >> the ugly spector of child abuse hits the deadlines with some dramatic consequences. lord justin levison delivers his plan on press standards. >> we should be wary of any legislation that has the potential to infringe free speech and a free press. >> the queen sits in on a cabinet meeting at number 10. but let's begin with the subject which has dominated politics and our pockets for many months, the state of our economy. at the start of december the chancellor came to deliver his autumn statement or mini budget. it set out the latest figures for the growth, tax and benefits. among the headlines the

paying for what some call to close of a relationship with the rest of the european union. i don't think we pay a price for that actually i think the benefits of the single market are very considerable it's very important for us to recognize that the single market is a market of five hundred million people it's a relatively prosperous market it's the world's most integrated market and a great deal has already been achieved which enables companies to trade seamlessly across borders but it's not perfect yet and indeed one of the key preoccupations of the british government will be to press for full implementation of the single market in the coming years what are the downsides are there there must be some downsides as well we don't think drawing down sides of a single market because we do believe in open trade we believe that. the market is genuinely borderless and more companies can trade across different markets access different pools of demand and we believe that's beneficial to the economy we believe that we don't look significant growth within the european union these so-

union is european. quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members develop democracies but what we see is that despite those facts there are some other effects there are very serious challenges and problems in the european union and in each and every always member country. if you look human rights. human rights. if you like to see more of that we invite you to watch the full interview with the russian foreign ministry's commissioner for human rights next hour in fact. still to come before then the yemen's president attempts to break away from the political heritage of the country's ousted leader with washington showing increasing interest to be internal affairs now the gulf state we're delving about a bit deeper try to find out why also the u.k. is preparing to go its troops from afghanistan with hundreds of british soldiers killed and millions of pounds spend on the war a couple of the many very stories we're talking about after this break. i mean even for specialist voice can p

for me kevin i would hear the new scent of the smalling if you just joined this our top story the european union is three presidents have received this year's nobel peace prize on behalf of the group it's been given to commend the e.u. for fostering peace but not everyone agrees hundreds marched through the norwegian capital in protest peter all of it looks at why many believe the e.u. doesn't deserve the prize while the whole nobel institution may no need to rethink . mark or little children. will one day live in a nation where they will not be deterred. by the content of their character. the one it can be probably would have become a laureate to the home. however the nobel peace prize is only awarded to a living person but this is when a test such trying especially when it comes to finances the announcement the european union was to pick up the twenty twelve gongs sparked a heated debate the award was being discredited particularly after the outrage of who's picked it up recently well to be frank inside the united states i don't think very many people pay attention to the nobel peace pri

union is search and european . quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members develop democracies but what we see is there despite those facts there are some other effects there are a very serious challenges and problems in the european union and the in each and every or its member countries. if you full interview with the russian foreign ministries commissioner for human rights at six pm g.m.t. here on this channel r.t. . still ahead before that yemen's president attempts to break away from the political heritage of the country's ousted leader with washington showing increasing interest in the face of the gulf state we examine that a bit closer a bit later. you pay is preparing to be from afghanistan with hundreds. millions of pounds spent on the war we talk about that after this break. i never thought i could earn a living this way. to avoid is a norm or should just small arms so there's a lot almost machine building ploy and not only a source count of all the weapons she's fired over the

union you know that germany is doing everything for the benefit of the european union and on the other side we see the special relationship snowboards you see and so in the hospital possible conflict because you're always what's at the side of the west coast at the side of his friend so now we see two different reasons of state. in our coalition and by the way maybe you're not the growth reason or states are not the reason or stave off what exists on do. i mean the order of the benefit of the german people so it will be interesting i don't think that germany go right now with this government or with this political power if you look at if you want to go so far to turn expect towards you or to pull back for example ambassadors or to send them business all over or in any threat of sanctions sports you throw as i said in my answer before i think we witness now all of the protests with no political shake coming out of this this is so that my question would be why is then israel so provocative in its decisions i made and there's a lot of growing international isolation to that in what they d

to solve the basic problem that the european. countries are insolvent based simply do not have the money to pay back all the money that they have borrowed and because of that fact which is incontrovertibly we are going to come to a day of reckoning of some point the issue becomes when is that day going to happen and how far will the european and europe perhaps be able to keep the can down the road the question will public anger in the e.u. is rising within a quarter of europeans and risk of sliding into poverty and becoming socially excluded the books my statistics agency says the figures risen to twenty four percent from twenty eleven up from just over twenty three percent the year before his paper all of the reports on how this deteriorations affecting the region. around one hundred and twenty million e.u. citizens all right risk for falling below the poverty line now in response to the measures that are being taken to try and halt the european union and the euro zone in particular as economic downturn we've seen violent demons

hello good evening who just joined is kevin owen your thoughts he tonight in moscow and first the european union three presidents have received this year's nobel peace prize on behalf of the group it's been given to commend the you for fostering peace but not everyone agrees hundreds marched through a norwegian capital in protest of a looks of why many believe the doesn't deserve the prize and why the whole nobody institution may now be to rethink. mark. one day i live in a nation where they will not be deterred by the call about them but by the content of back our i would try to be one it can be probably become a glorious. however the nobel peace prize is only awarded to a living person this is when it tastes trying teria especially when it comes to finances the announcement the european union was to take up the twenty twelve gongs sparked heated debate borders being discredited particularly to the outrageous he's picked it up recently well to be frank inside the united states i don't think very many people pay attention to the nobel peace prize anymore large numbers of americans were stu

the european countries, for instance. china, after its phase of communism, they have amassed capital and is expanding that capital in a favorable terms. being able to look at the terms of a new economic force in the world. they probably need the african governments to safeguard what they have one after years, decades, a couple centuries to european powers and make sure they do not sell them, but as far as economic trading relationships are concerned, material, in exchange for technology, in exchange even for political alliances, i always wondered about that. tavis: made the argument is because free enterprise and colonization sometimes goes hand in hand. in africa and parts of the world under the guise of free enterprise. >> unfortunately, it does not stand the test of argument. if you say it is a free market. then they must leave the african countries to seek the best conditions for their own development. there are similar aspects of chinese policy, backing some very villainess governments, but that does not mean we shou

if we look further afield with syria the european union's policy the actual policy of the european union as an organization that in mind its member states has been in my view to fan the flames of the conflict in syria and not to act as a peace broker so there is literally no way in which we can say that the european union has fostered peace and there's no other way to look at it that it is a structure of our which serves the interests of the people who belong to it that is to say the european. members of the european parliament and all the other people who work for the europe. and it is radically out of touch with ordinary people and not just with the people who demonstrate the youth unemployment figures in greece and spain and other countries are truly horrifying and in the name of the european ideology europe is not being put through some of the most difficult economic times it seems is the ninety. seems so whichever way you look at the nonsensical judgment it's an absolute. story cohorts of acacia discredits the nobel prize and so. what onery people endure life in the direct it seems

information that europeans keep stored online could be accessed by u.s. law enforcement agencies that's according to a report issued by one university in amsterdam which reveals the anti terrorism patriot act gives washington legal grounds to bypass europe's privacy laws and for more now are joined live by one of the authors of the report back axle hello so explain to us how exactly does this work how can this you are slow affect citizens in other countries well as soon as a company conducts systematic business in the united states it has to comply with us laws that means. well united states authorities under its laws can request data that is stored in a cloud what do you make of this u.s. policy of extraterritorial laws in terms of international rights does anyone actually a other country's legislature. well these companies do and that's exactly where sort of. the wide gap in legal protection is that we found in our report so normally in an offline world you would have cooperation between governments that would respect international human rights standard

under the european union boss proposed scheme, everyone under 25 who applies -- european union's proposed scheme, everyone under 25 who applies would be guaranteed a job or training within four months. >> we have to invest in europe's young people. we cannot afford to leave them. we have to give them the skills and experience they need to help them to get a job. >> the eu wants to fund the sceme -- scheme with money from the european bond. many are skeptical of the plans. >> i do not believe the suggestions will be successful. employers will be afraid of giving people work, so it will hurt those it's trying to help. >> whether it will really create more education and training programs is still unclear, as the suggestions are only recommendations to eu member states. >> bayern face off against a byelorussian team tonight. >> boresoff beat them in november. bayern are in top form. >> as if they were not scoring enough goals already, goetze is ready to go. he is first choice again in the champions' league. bayern are looking to top the group with a victory. >> i am confident we will take the

is there any european citizens private information stored online shielded by an antiterrorism law. you're watching r t a live from moscow with me to on monday good to have you with us this afternoon egypt seen as some of the bloodiest street battles assumes an uprising against president morsi began two weeks ago at least life people have been killed and hundreds injured as pro and anti morsi protesters clashed outside the presidential palace tanks and armored vehicles were deployed to the scene after sporadic fighting continued into this morning the violence that started when thousands of the president's supporters moved into crush a sit in obvious opponents karo based reporter bell drew says the violence has also spread outside the capital. one member of tahrir square where scenes. there have been. on the square here behind me on the side the presidential. as i type reports the caches have broken out during the day but basically we've seen very violent scenes overnight my colleague tom barton was that reporting from the scene we're about as close as we can expect to the fighting h

weigh the european union because the european union positions and most of its members position themselves as. works of democracy as certain yardsticks by which the international community absolutely must measure its own record wreckers in the field of human rights and nobody disputes by the way the fact that european union is in the european quite a number of its members not all but quite a number of its members develop democracies but what we see is there despite those effects there are some other effects there that are very serious challenges and problems in the european union and the in each and every or its member countries in the field of human rights. full interview with the russian foreign ministry's commissioner for human rights in the next hour here on out tonight still ahead he was well yemen's president attempts to break away from the political heritage of the country's ousted leader with washington showing increasing interest in the physical state these days we investigate that a bit further and find out why shortly. i . hear news secret laboratory to mccurry was able to build

it was in the world bank in the european union it's a large company and large countries that actually call the shots on the final thing the most important argument in many ways and bread and butter issues in the us economy we are better together because there are no barriers to trade north and south of the border if you take the financial services industry in scotland for example a lot of what it sells most of what it sells is into england so there are very very powerful arguments for staying part of the u.k. and on the other side when you start looking at the how humans put forward by the nationalists frankly they don't stand up so it's a very very you know it's in my mind is oh no we're overwhelming case but stunning staying part of the u.k. the nationalist though do you have arguments for all those points don't they for example scotland does have its own very distinct national identity andy murray the tennis player he always says that he's a scot first information that he's playing for scotland here and he's also british you know what you know and when he won the tennis in the olym

but steely israel feels that the europeans supporting basically supporting israel. but coming up with a fascinating trip to st petersburg and it's very an. artist was arrested for putting up posters critical of drone usage all over new york city the poster show a menacing drone shooting a missile at innocent children with the words drones protection when you least expect it written at the bottom these posters deaf. they reflect a lot of americans fears that a big brother skynet will completely eliminate the very concept of privacy and free speech so to prove that americans live in a free country without any government spying the n.y.p.d. hunted down the anonymous artist and arrested him for expressing himself having arrested him at his residence they charged him with fifty six counts of criminal possession of a forged instrument grand larceny possession of stolen property and weapons possession for having a deadly terrorist weapon and unloaded twenty two caliber pistol although being in jail won't be pleasant perhaps arzt s m a t actually in the end it got what he w

european investors, should they be concerned now? how many days do we have left before the end of the year that we don't have an agreement yet? >> i think should we be concerned? probably not really, i don't think. i think the outcome on in terms of the prospect for the u.s. economy in the coming year could be impacted by what happens with the fiscal cliff, but i think some sort of arrangement will be made sooner rather than later. you're not going to feel the full impact of the fiscal cliff. what we're likely to see out of the u.s. is modest economic growth, maybe not as strong as some of the bulls had hoped for. >> but also not as weak as to derail its current path? >> yeah. >> now, i wanted to talk briefly about 2013. when it comes to equity outlook, what sectors do you like? any particular names that you would like? >> there's a handful of areas that we're focusing towards and a handful of areas that we're focusing away from. and if i start with sort of where we've got caution, i suppose we're cautious to sectors tightly linked t