isabel secure can she is a researcher with the digital society institute at berlin's european school of management technology it's good to have you on the show we we're hearing tonight that this cyber attack is still ongoing what does that mean yes so that means that the attack was discovered apparently by the security agencies in december two thousand and seventeen and since then they haven't wanted tarring the attack so they've basically not eliminated the hackers from the network but they've been monitoring and what they call isolating the attack getting it under control to observe so they're moving though that's being done now is information still being destroyed or stolen well. but judging from what the officials say no there's no damn it's a more you know you can see say that as you were mentioning they say that the government. has been able or that intelligence has been able to monitor this attack in a controlled manner yes is that just is it a way of saying we can't beat them we can just contain them i think it's maybe a bit more i think it's more of a strategy to gather evidence about the hackers an

isabel skinner she's a researcher with the digital society institute bourbons that european school of management and technology a focus of industrial cyber security welcome to d w how worried should we be about an attack like this how worried should germany be so what we know right now is that the security government that what was hacked. will be and we know that the information that could be accessed via this network is not that critical so it's not highly classified information said this stage. it might not be a very serious attack but we don't have enough information to know more about this and we also don't know how much information with xcel trade it so how would you describe the german government states of cyber security readiness. so i think that a lot more it is to be done here i mean we've seen for example that this attack was discovered only from what we know in the media ten to twelve months into the attack so the attackers had a lot of time to be in the network and this is also why it's unprecedented and in that sense it's a very serious attack right because it seems that the detection wasn't fast